mbs357
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Sounds good to me...dunno how you told the airsoft from a real Glock, them both being plastic and all. 
By the way, a/s/l? =o
By the way, a/s/l? =o
Did I do the right thing?
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fish2xs
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I am afraid to tell you anything other than "you did an excellent job!"
Randy in Arizona
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mbs357 said:
BINGO! +1
nvshooter
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You reacted instinctively as per your training. Nice job! You ought to take the little dweeb out to a range or someplace and show him what a bullet will do to a gallon jug of water. Then ask him to imagine it as his numb skull when he pulls on a CCW carrier and gets killed.
regarding the 'hammer back on the glock'
so what, this may be a real incident, or it may be hypothetical, or it may be 2nd hand, the answers should all be the same regardless.
Obviously, he wanted you to think it was a real gun pointed at you, and you acted upon that info, it wasn't like he was just getting sloppy with muzzle control and not really paying attention to you.
Per the conversation with your father, I'd have asked what was the purpose of the stunt, get the brother to admit he was trying to scare you by having you mistake it for a real gun.
regarding superglue the orange bit on, superglue can be kinda fussy on plastic to plastic, and can get brittle enough to be easily snapped off after a few months. Solution, smash the airsoft gun into little bits. And yes, I am serious. When he gets upset, tell him you will reimburse him to go buy another, provided he pulls the same stunt on a cop. "What? you don't want to get shot or go to jail? then you should be thanking me for smashing this one and removing the tempation to do something stupid like that, becasue you just proved you don't have enough common sense yourself to keep your ass out of trouble."
so what, this may be a real incident, or it may be hypothetical, or it may be 2nd hand, the answers should all be the same regardless.
Obviously, he wanted you to think it was a real gun pointed at you, and you acted upon that info, it wasn't like he was just getting sloppy with muzzle control and not really paying attention to you.
Per the conversation with your father, I'd have asked what was the purpose of the stunt, get the brother to admit he was trying to scare you by having you mistake it for a real gun.
regarding superglue the orange bit on, superglue can be kinda fussy on plastic to plastic, and can get brittle enough to be easily snapped off after a few months. Solution, smash the airsoft gun into little bits. And yes, I am serious. When he gets upset, tell him you will reimburse him to go buy another, provided he pulls the same stunt on a cop. "What? you don't want to get shot or go to jail? then you should be thanking me for smashing this one and removing the tempation to do something stupid like that, becasue you just proved you don't have enough common sense yourself to keep your ass out of trouble."
mbs357
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Forgot about the "hammer on Glock" thing...at first I thought she noticed the position of the trigger...but eeehhh...
As for the Glocks and airsofts being plastic thing, well, that was a joke. =p
(but they are!!! =D)
As for the Glocks and airsofts being plastic thing, well, that was a joke. =p
(but they are!!! =D)
bg
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Seems to me there are no friends, relatives etc, if one is
pointing a gun at you fake or not. These are things not
to mess with. A firearm doesn't know if its play of not.
It has no feelings at all. It's a tool and can be deadly
when not used responsibly,
I give ya two thumbs up for taking care of business AND
yourself !
pointing a gun at you fake or not. These are things not
to mess with. A firearm doesn't know if its play of not.
It has no feelings at all. It's a tool and can be deadly
when not used responsibly,
I give ya two thumbs up for taking care of business AND
yourself !
offthepaper
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At 18 years old, he really should understand how serious it can get when you want to "surprise" someone with a fake gun. Things can get ugly in a hurry.
As for the what to do with the gun, paint it orange, give him a couple more "advanced self D lessons", and after the butt kicking is understood, give him back the gun.
As for the what to do with the gun, paint it orange, give him a couple more "advanced self D lessons", and after the butt kicking is understood, give him back the gun.
You did the right thing. A kick in the nuts might have been warranted on top of that.
A few years ago, I was invited to a farm to shoot with some friends. All of them are very disciplined about gun safety. However, someone had also invited "that guy", the "friend of a friend". This guy was not very mature. At one point, we called "range is cold" and someone went down range to set up targets. This idiot decided to "paint" my friend's back with a red laser dot from a calico 9mm. My other friend, who had invited him, walked over, calmly asked him for the calico, put it on safety, set it down, and then clocked him. Lights outs.
Gun safety must be emphasized.
A few years ago, I was invited to a farm to shoot with some friends. All of them are very disciplined about gun safety. However, someone had also invited "that guy", the "friend of a friend". This guy was not very mature. At one point, we called "range is cold" and someone went down range to set up targets. This idiot decided to "paint" my friend's back with a red laser dot from a calico 9mm. My other friend, who had invited him, walked over, calmly asked him for the calico, put it on safety, set it down, and then clocked him. Lights outs.
Gun safety must be emphasized.
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Love it. Excellent response. Can't compromise on gun safety.
When my two sons were small and had toy guns even then the rule was not to point them at anything living (e.g., each other, me, my wife, the dog). If the rule was violated the toy gun was taken away for a couple of days. Some of my gun owning friends thought I was being silly about this, but with guns in the house even though they were locked up I just thought it would be stupid to expect a 5 year old to be able to differentiate a real gun from a toy if he got hold of one. They are 12 and 14 now and very safe with firearms. They behave like mature young men on the shooting range and I am very proud of them.
When my two sons were small and had toy guns even then the rule was not to point them at anything living (e.g., each other, me, my wife, the dog). If the rule was violated the toy gun was taken away for a couple of days. Some of my gun owning friends thought I was being silly about this, but with guns in the house even though they were locked up I just thought it would be stupid to expect a 5 year old to be able to differentiate a real gun from a toy if he got hold of one. They are 12 and 14 now and very safe with firearms. They behave like mature young men on the shooting range and I am very proud of them.
Double Naught Spy
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Disarming the brother is fine, but stealing his airsoft gun is not. While he had no right to do what he did, after you defended yourself against what looked like a real, you had no right to keep the gun.
Of course, the gun was not an actual firearm. However, the notion of keeping the gun until he has proven worthy of airsoft sort of flies in the face of the 2nd amendment. If you want him to treat the airsoft gun like a real gun and he has to prove worthy before getting it back, then you fall under the same rules of treating him and the gun correctly. As such, you violated his 2A rights.
Of course, the gun was not an actual firearm. However, the notion of keeping the gun until he has proven worthy of airsoft sort of flies in the face of the 2nd amendment. If you want him to treat the airsoft gun like a real gun and he has to prove worthy before getting it back, then you fall under the same rules of treating him and the gun correctly. As such, you violated his 2A rights.
mbs357
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I'd like to shake the man's hand.
Bull????.
2nd A prohibits the government from preventing gun ownership. It's got zero power of me saying ' you cannot bring a gun into my home'
What the kid, er ADULT did was commit a crime, two in fact, by modifying a toy to make it appear like a real gun, then to threaten someone with something they were to assume was a real gun.
Keeping the airsoft is protecting the person from themself, as they obviously cannot be trusted with it. Besides, she can keep it in case she ever wishes to press charges.
If you owned a store, and someone tried to rob you, and you pulled a gun, causing them to drop thiers and flee, woudl you send that gun back to them?
mikeyinokc
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She had every right to confiscate the Airsoft. He got off lucky IMHO. I would have given his Airsoft back to him in a bag, cause it would have been in many, many pieces.
She had every right to confiscate the Airsoft. He got off lucky IMHO. I would have given his Airsoft back to him in a bag, cause it would have been in many, many pieces.
Erik Jensen
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yep. negative reinforcement is a helluva teacher.
luzyfuerza
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The rule around our house has always been that no toy guns are allowed, ever. Airsoft and paintball stuff falls into the "toy" category, IMHO.
Instead, we only allow the real thing. Only kids who are old enough to understand and follow instructions are allowed to use the real thing under our direct supervision. The rest of the time, they're locked in the safe.
Why confuse kids with two separate sets of rules?
If a cop can't tell the difference between a real gun and a toy, how can we expect an eight-year-old to?
Instead, we only allow the real thing. Only kids who are old enough to understand and follow instructions are allowed to use the real thing under our direct supervision. The rest of the time, they're locked in the safe.
Why confuse kids with two separate sets of rules?
If a cop can't tell the difference between a real gun and a toy, how can we expect an eight-year-old to?
Strings
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>Why confuse kids with two separate sets of rules?
If a cop can't tell the difference between a real gun and a toy, how can we expect an eight-year-old to?<
When I was growing up, we had LOTS of toy guns: my basement was even set up as an arsenal at one point. However, the ONLY "guns" that got pointed at each-other were squirtguns or rubberband guns. If we played"army", we were all on the same side against invisible enemies...
Paintball and Airsoft? I think they're fine... for those old enough. And I've seen plenty of kids too young out on the field (even some that can vote, drive, and serve in the military)...
If a cop can't tell the difference between a real gun and a toy, how can we expect an eight-year-old to?<
When I was growing up, we had LOTS of toy guns: my basement was even set up as an arsenal at one point. However, the ONLY "guns" that got pointed at each-other were squirtguns or rubberband guns. If we played"army", we were all on the same side against invisible enemies...
Paintball and Airsoft? I think they're fine... for those old enough. And I've seen plenty of kids too young out on the field (even some that can vote, drive, and serve in the military)...
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