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Do I really need another gun?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by TCW, Aug 28, 2004.

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  1. TCW

    TCW Member

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    Hi All,
    I'm a 35-year old non-hunter suburbia-dweller patriot that enjoys shooting/owning firearms. I live in **********, so I can't carry. So far, I have the following:

    Rem 870 w/ surefire forend/iron sights
    Mini-14 w/red dot
    .40 cal handgun
    .357 revolver

    I know that I have enough to protect me and my family in any conceivable situation, yet I have the urge to get something more long-distace capable (bolt, Browning BAR). Do I really need to spend another $700 or so on a rifle when I could do other things w/ the money (pay off my car faster!). In reality, what situation that I'm likely to be in would actually require a 150-400 yd shot? No disrespect to those with large collections of rifles ;)

    Thanks!
    TCW
     
  2. Backwoods

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    My question for you is *** does "need" have to do with this?

    Do you WANT another gun? If you do, then buy it, the concept of need is/should be, disregarded.

    Don in Ohio
     
  3. MikeB

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    Having to many guns is like having to much money.
     
  4. Okiecruffler

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    I ask myself that all the time

    And I'm sure you're going to get alot of very funny replies, but , do you really need any more? I used to tell people my collection was an investment, but I hope I have something better to fall back on than a house full of old ratty military guns. I've even been thinking of getting rid of everything and buying one really nice rifle, one shotgun, and one pistol. Then using the rest of the proceeds to make some extra payments on the vehicles. Even tho' guns are incrediably fun and facinating, isn't owning one's own home and having a secure future a more noble goal?

    Oh wait, you realize you don't have a rimfire don't you? And it wouldn't hurt to have a long range rifle, just in case. And what if during an attack by the JBT's with their undead grizzly bears and giant alien spiders your Mini-14 jams? You're going to need either an AR15 or an AK47, but who knows which is best, so you'd better get both. Speaking of which is better, you can pick a side in the .357 vs. .45 threads, but what about the 9mm vs .45? You're going to need one or the other, or both, then you can say, "I own both and I think..." Jeez man, go out and buy some more guns.:D
     
  5. Bullet Bob

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    No .22's?!!

    Good golly man, RUN to the nearest firearm emporiam and purchase one each pistol and rifle in the funnest caliber know to man.
     
  6. michiganfan

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    Okie maybe you and I could get a cheap rate on group therapy
     
  7. Okiecruffler

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    Used to go to group therapy

    Gunaholics Anonymous.


    We met at the range.:D
     
  8. Chris Rhines

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    Humans don't NEED anything but a certain regular input of chemical energy.

    But boy, if I had your collections, I'd sure feel better with another .40 pistol, to keep as a spare for when the first one breaks. A spare shotgun wouldn't go amiss, either. And of course, a .22LR rifle and pistol would e nice to have...

    You see where this is going. :D

    - Chris
     
  9. ExtremeDooty

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    And I don't have enough of either yet, but I'm working on it.

    As far as need goes, ask any blissninnie gun grabber and they'll tell you don't need what you already have. What they think you need is the base of their argument for gun control.
     
  10. iamkris

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    Heck of the 29 guns I own I onnly NEED a few

    I NEED only one of my shotguns to hunt with, but I like and play with the others for 3 gun competitions, cowboy shooting and sporting clays

    I dont NEED any of my handguns (no CCW in IL) but I like to play with them for 3 gun competitions, cowboy shooting, plinking and the history of saome of them.

    I don't NEED any of the 15 rifles I have except for my Mauser 308 for hunting, but I love the history of my milsurps, like to play with my AR and STG, couldn't do with out the boom of my 45-70 Sharps and Trapdoor, etc.

    NEED don't got nuthin' to do with it boy. Firearms aren't all about NEED< they are a love affair with art, beauty, self reliance, mechanical wonderment and history.
     
  11. Dave Markowitz

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    Unfortunately, these are usually mutually incompatible. :banghead:
     
  12. JuniorG

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    For about 20 years I lived with all the guns I NEEDED...
    A win. Mod. 70 in 270 win
    A Stevens SxS 20 Ga.
    A Ithica .22 LR

    These 3 guns covered every situation from hunting to target shooting and everything in between.

    In the early 90s I started collecting the guns I WANTED and I still aquire one a year. Most have been shot, some have not and I don't have to justify my purchases to anyone, my wife doesn't ask and I don't care what anybody else thinks.


    If I never aquired another gun I wouldn't be sorry and if I had to grab 3 and go it would be the 1st 2 above and a 22 bolt action.

    What do you want to do? Buy another gun? or make a couple car payments?

    It's your choice man.
     
  13. Majic

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    There is no such thing as need on a gun board. It's just a little lie we use to get someone to convince us to get what we already want. :D
     
  14. manwithoutahome

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    As was said, it's not the need for another gun, it's the want of another gun.

    I could loosly be called a collector. I started out wanting a gun of every caliber ever made. Then I saw just how many calibers there are out there. Then I narrowed it down to this: (what I really need

    1. .22 rifle (small game)
    2. Anything in the 9mm to .45 pistol range (self defense)
    3. Any major hunting caliber, .30 or up.
    4. Shotgun, 12 to 20 gauge (home defense)

    Now, I have alot more then this. Some I buy to trade up to maybe a battle rifle (which should be number 5 on the list above). Some I buy "just because the anti's hate them". Sometimes I buy just because only a non gun owner would walk away from such a great deal.

    Do I need them? No. Do I want them? Yes. So, I get them if I have the money.

    But, oh course, bills come first (including food and money for family) then my hobbies. I'm lucky in that I own all three of my vehicles so I don't have that payment. And if you want to buy a house one day, then saving for that is more important. After that, it's not the need, it's the want to expand :D.

    Wayne
     
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    Do you need another gun?

    Yes.

    You NEED a .357 Marlin Lever action.

    You NEED a .22 rimfire.

    If you don't fill your wants, you will always have that lingering doubt, that question of completeness. You don't want to feel that way. You need to feel good about yourself and the defensive decisions you've made.

    Therefore you NEED another gun.

    Now, was that difficult?

    When in doubt, buy.

    It works for the womenfolk.

    Vick
     
  17. beardking

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    quick answer, yes. But here's another question for you to ponder. Does your WIFE think you NEED another one. Have to consider that before you go buying a $700 gun. Especially since she'll all of a sudden NEED a new diamond thingamajig. :D
     
  18. TCW

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    Can'thavenuthingood,
    Acually I was thinking about a Marlin lever a less expenive alternative, but I was thinking of a 30-30. How does a .357 compare to a 30-30? What grouping could I expect out of both? I've seen used 30-30's for $175 online
    Tom
     
  19. Black Majik

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    Umm...


    You need a 1911.
     
  20. Majic

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    A .357mag fired in a rifle or carbine is no match for a 30-30. Simple fact of just not enough powder capacity to even consider comparing.
     
  21. Can'thavenuthingood

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    Since you are a non-hunter and don't plan to be, I go with the .357 lever. You can use same cartridges from your revolver, .38's to .357. Go to the rifle forum here and type in searches, do a .357 vs 30-30 and start to read from all the experience out there.

    The 30-30 is a good hunter, but thats not what you're looking for. The .357 in a rifle won't reach with the punch of a 30-30. I'd stay with the same caliber range and work the "set" of revolver and lever action. Get good with'em. Reload'em.

    How many can ya carry in SHTF scenario?
    You are living close in so your shots will be close, no distance beyond what? 100 yards?

    On the other hand what Black Majik says a 1911 would be gooder too. Work on that "close in" stuff. Give the .357 revolver to the wife with some .38's to start with and practice, practice, practice.

    Yeah, you need another gun cause the wife is gonna take yours :)

    Vick
     
  22. Standing Wolf

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    Of course you need more guns! If you're still breathing, you need more guns, and more ammunition, too, and don't forget the accessories, and...
     
  23. mcneill

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    What everybody else said.

    I have a belief that if I want something long enough it becomes a need.

    Ex-senator Phil Gramm used to say, "I have more guns than I need but not as many as I want."

    Used to be every time I would come home with a new gun my wife would ask, "Don't you have enough guns?" I would always answer, "Not yet." She finally quit asking.:cool:

    Jim
     
  24. MrMurphy

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    You need a .22 rifle.

    You also need a .30-30, or an SKS. Both are under $300 (I recommend Marlin 336 for .30-30, with a XSS ghost ring sight).

    You could also get an SU-16 which uses AR mags for $500(folds in half too), or an M1 Garand.


    You CAN get a carry permit in Kalifornistan, just not in L.A county.
     
  25. Edmond

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    I don't see a 9mm or 45acp on that list. So, yes, I would say that you need to buy another gun.:D
     
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