Do most of the anti-gun celebs have armed body guards?

[PistolNewbie]

I have been reading a few comments stating most of the anti-gun celebs have armed body guards. If this is true, talk about a double standard!! Where do they get off? I guess they get by with it because of who they are, and there is a small segment of society that thinks they are God. Shame on them!

 

[Mike U.]

Rosie O'Donnell, Ted Kennedy, Ted Turner just to name a few.

 

[gggman]

Many of them are unbelievably hypocritical. They don't think they have to live to the same standards that they set for us. Rosie and her armed bodyguard, and algore and his energy consuming monstrosity of a mansion come to mind.

 

[obxned]

Well, at least these people aren't stupid enough to actually believe their own bovine droppings.

 

[Leanwolf]

Yes, almost all of the elite "celebrities" have armed body guards, especially if they are to be in a publicized event.

Also, the wealthy ones, have incredibly expensive and sophisticated security systems and armed patrols of their homes, etc. Bulletproof cars, both limos and personal, are not at all unusual.

Many of the rabid anti-guns "celebs" also own firearms. They deserve them, of course, because their lives are far, far more valuable than those of the dirty worker peasant class.

As Geo. Orwell wrote, "All animals are equal ... but some animals are more equal than others."

Celebrities take that to heart.

L.W.

 

[thedpp]

Without a doubt they do but thats ok they are more important than we are

 

[T-Mac]

Mike U-
Ted turner and I do not agree on politics but... he has ranches nearby and I have had numerous dealings with him as a Taxidermist. (I used to mount dead things for him when I was in that line of work).
1) I have never seen a body guard with him.
2) He once told me has Quail hunting properties in Georgia and Florida.
3) He allows Elk hunting (outfitted and late season non-outfitted)) on his ranches in Montana.

But... there are plenty of good examples, like you mentioned- Rosie, for one.
I too think many celebrities are total hypocrites when it comes to how they actually live their own lives, compared to what they profess..

 

[sterling180]

If you think about it carefully,celebs think along the lines of most anti-gunners.The following is based upon their rationality and not mine.Now,for example in the USA people have easy access to guns,compared with other western countries and the licensing criteria is not as strict as countries like Australia and my country-meaning that more citizens have guns,because of this and because of the American constitutional rights.Basically meaning that most people own guns and have had experiance with them,meaning more potential whackos,that would stalk them.For example,despicable monsters like Mark Chapman,Andrew Cunnanum and Charles Manson.

Now,based upon this logic,most celebrity body guards are routinely-armed,to stop any potential psycho,from killing,kidnapping or seriously injuring them,with or without the use of a firearm.If you notice that the celebs don't carry,because they don't feel they need to,but would any of you,out there trust a bodyguard?I wouldn't trust a bodyguard,unless I have known them for years,because in some cases,bodyguards have turned out to be bad people,despite heavy-screening.However most are decent men and women and are trustworthy.

Most of them also develop liberal ideas instead of facing reality and creating a back up plan,if their bodyguards failed them in any way.

 

[tuna]

A better question is "what do their bodyguards carry?" What a comeback potential if Rosie's bodyguard carried a Glock, like the maniac at VT.

 

[alucard0822]

Most anti-gun celebs really do mean it when they say "I am not anti-gun, I am pro gun-control" they like the comfort of owning guns, having armed guards, driving huge SUVs, and living in huge energy consuming homes at the same time telling us to conserve power and denouncing gun ownership. It's the golden rule, He who has the gold makes the rules.
There were more than a few of the 250+ people that showed up in Annapolis to fight the last AWB that gasped when Paul Helmke (big wig in the Brady campaign) told the committe that he owned a few pistols, went shooting every so often and has fired "assault rifles" therefore he knew firsthand that you can spray hot lead like a garden hose from the hip, and the shear armor peircing cop killing power that they had, and also manage to silently kill at thousands of yards away, and therefore should be outlawed along with all the other semi-auto boom sticks and pistols. basically :banghead: X250

 

[Waitone]

If IIRC a few years back Rosie petitioned the state of CT (IIRC) for permission to equip her children's bodyguards with MP5's.

Nope, no hypocrisy over there.

 

[glockman19]

YES and most are retired or reserve LAPD officers making a little extra on the side.

Reserves level 1 & 2 don't get paid but can CCW and work private security. Since they donate their time it is a nice side benefit.

 

[PistolNewbie]

A better question is "what do their bodyguards carry?" What a comeback potential if Rosie's bodyguard carried a Glock, like the maniac at VT.

I love it! Pisses me off I didn't think of that question myself. In all seriousness, of course they need some protection from all the crazies out there that would like to do them harm, but so do the rest of us! It is their double standard that galls the hell out of me. Entertainers/celebrities are not more important, or their life more valuable than any of the rest of us, but they make tons of money and money is power they use to fuel their own agendas. People listen to them and follow like sheep. It's dangerous! One of my mottos is "Be careful what you buy into."

 

[Mike U.]

Mike U-
Ted turner and I do not agree on politics but... he has ranches nearby and I have had numerous dealings with him as a Taxidermist. (I used to mount dead things for him when I was in that line of work).
1) I have never seen a body guard with him.
2) He once told me has Quail hunting properties in Georgia and Florida.
3) He allows Elk hunting (outfitted and late season non-outfitted)) on his ranches in Montana.

But... there are plenty of good examples, like you mentioned- Rosie, for one.
I too think many celebrities are total hypocrites when it comes to how they actually live their own lives, compared to what they profess..

T-Mac,

I'm pulling the names up from memory, and I remember hearing he did have armed security around him, but, I have no way of knowing for certain. Same thing with the other two hypocrites. I only know what I've heard.

 

[Big Calhoun]

I believe one quote I read on the matter at one time alluded to, basically, they hire them to do a job and don't get into the details of how they do their job. It was some months ago that I read that somewhere, have to see if I can dig it up.

 

[BobMcG]

Haven't you gotten the message yet? It's always been loud and clear. All of the world's elitist can have all the firearms they wish too (or not) and can have all the armed guards they can afford. It's SCREW YOU! NOT screw them.

Get it?

 

[another okie]

While I dislike these anti-gunners as much as anyone, I should point out that their thinking is that guns should be banned, and until guns are banned, they will need armed guards to protect them from all the armed crazies out there. I'm not sure it's really hypocritical - they see it as taking precautions against how life is right now, and trying to change it in the future.

Hypocritical would be saying, "The world is safe, you don't need a gun" while having an armed bodyguard.

Hypocritical would also be saying "The police are enough to keep anyone safe" while having an armed bodyguard. (I know lots of anti-gunners say that, but I don't know of Rosie and The Two Teds saying that.)

Saying "The world should be safe enough that you don't need a gun" is not really inconsistent with having one. It's a stupid thing to say, because the world never will be like that, but it's not really hypocritical. Let's get after them for their rose-colored glasses. (Rosie-colored glasses?)

 

[Mike U.]

While I dislike these anti-gunners as much as anyone, I should point out that their thinking is that guns should be banned, and until guns are banned, they will need armed guards to protect them from all the armed crazies out there. I'm not sure it's really hypocritical - they see it as taking precautions against how life is right now, and trying to change it in the future.

You don't seriously think that if guns are banned the rich will have THEIR bodyguards give up their weapons do you?

 

[another okie]

No, because they'll know (as do we) that there are always going to be some guns out there. It's just that we view that as a good thing.

 

[Mike U.]

So, the rich/celebrities insisting the public give up their guns while the celebs keep theirs doesn't strike you as hypocritical?

Isn't the definition of hypocrisy along the lines of insisiting others do something that the one demanding will not, themselves, do?


American Heritage Dictionary - Cite This Source hy·poc·ri·sy (hĭ-pŏk'rĭ-sē) Pronunciation Key
n. pl. hy·poc·ri·sies

The practice of professing beliefs, feelings, or virtues that one does not hold or possess; falseness.
An act or instance of such falseness.


[Middle English ipocrisie, from Old French, from Late Latin hypocrisis, play-acting, pretense, from Greek hupokrisis, from hupokrīnesthai, to play a part, pretend : hupo-, hypo- + krīnesthai, to explain, middle voice of krīnein, to decide, judge; see krei- in Indo-European roots.]

 

[another okie]

"So, the rich/celebrities insisting the public give up their guns while the celebs keep theirs doesn't strike you as hypocritical?"

No. It doesn't match the definition you posted.

"The practice of professing beliefs, feelings, or virtues that one does not hold or possess; falseness."

Are you saying they don't really believe guns should be banned? Of course they do.

If they proposed a law banning guns but allowing private security guards, that would be hypocritical. Have they proposed such a law? No.

They really do believe guns should be banned. They are not professing beliefs they don't have.

They just don't want unilateral disarmament. They are not going to give up their guns until they believe the world is safe. Of course, the world never will be that safe, but they don't believe that.

I think the world "hypocrite" is so powerful today that people use it as an all-purpose smear without really thinking it through.

I'm not defending them. I'm trying to help you understand how people like that think. "The world is dangerous, so I need armed guards. I want to make the world more safe by banning guns. Until they are banned and the world becomes safe, I'm keeping mine."

I'm trying to explain why calling Rosie a "hypocrite" will not convince anti-gun people that she's wrong. We need to be accurate in our attacks. Call them naive or sheltered or elitist.

Or call them whatever you want. It's a free world.

 

[Mike U.]

Okay, I see what your saying. And, I agree with what your saying.

Thanks for the clarification!

 

[DualBerettas]

I remember when Bruce Willis said he owned a Beretta and that Al Gore was an idiot...!

 

[Bubbles]

This should really annoy you!

Heck with the celebs... how 'bout the UN? Kofi Annan is very anti-gun. When he's in the US guess who's paying for his bodyguards? (Hint - not him). Nope, his security is covered by you and me and every other taxpayer, courtesy of the Dep't of State Bureau of Diplomatic Security.

 

[SkiLune]

While I dislike these anti-gunners as much as anyone, I should point out that their thinking is that guns should be banned, and until guns are banned, they will need armed guards to protect them from all the armed crazies out there. I'm not sure it's really hypocritical - they see it as taking precautions against how life is right now, and trying to change it in the future.

But, if this is the case (crazies out there), why should ordinary folk not be allowed the same protection as the Rosies? I still see it as more elitist hypocrisy.