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Do they send your CCW to your house?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by BHPshooter, Oct 16, 2004.

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  1. BHPshooter

    BHPshooter Member

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    In about 2 months, I will be 21 and I will be getting my CCW. However, it is imperative that it not come in the mail to my house.

    My parents are nosy. They love to open my mail for me and read it, and when they don't, they will be all over me to see what it was. Did I mention they were nosy?

    My parents are not too hot on CCW, so if an envelope from BCI comes to the house addressed to me, that thing will be opened so fast it will cause a sonic boom, and then the defecation will hit the oscillation, as they say.

    I need an "incognito" way of obtaining that wonderful little card, when the time comes. Can I just ask the BCI to hold on to it and let me come and pick it up?

    ANY advice is much appreciated.

    Wes
     
  2. AK-NOW

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    Thefumegator,
    Not sure about your state, but here in Indiana the state police mail the CCW to your home address. You might look into a P.O. box.
     
  3. Zrex

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    I swear I'm not trying to be mean or anything.

    Go get the Concealed Carry License and dont worry about the parents. Honesty is the best policy. If you can't be honest with them, maybe you shouldn't be living with them.
     
  4. berettaman

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    First thing you need to do is grow a pair! Your parents need to be informed that opening mail that is not their's is a federal offence.If they don't respect your privacy it's time to cut the apron strings.I'm not suggesting you disrespect your parents but it looks like it's time to grow up and move on.Sneaking around behind their backs just shows the immaturity that doesn't suggest confidence in someone carrying a concealed weapon.
     
  5. Valkman

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    I think I would've had the option of picking it up if I wanted it, and the CCW Dept. has also called me to pick up Class 3 docs after they've been signed. This is in Vegas, but if you ask nice they might let you know when to come get it.

    Hopefully you can get your own place soon! :)
     
  6. BHPshooter

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    You have no idea. ;) My friend and I are actually flirting with the idea of getting a bachelor pad... I can dream, can't I?

    Wes
     
  7. Hkmp5sd

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    Get a PO box. You should be able to list your residence on the application and use a separate mailing address for the paperwork.
     
  8. cthulhu138

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    Their roof, their rules.
    Your roof, your rules.

    You're 21.

    Nuff said.
     
  9. joeoim

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    Here in Colorado where I live every county had their own individual procedures. I had to go to the sheriffs office to pick mine up as I had to sign it before it was laminated. Everything has since changed and I'm not up on the new laws.

    I suggest you give your sheriff a call and ask to talk to someone about the CCW permit procedures. They can tell you.

    They will have to photograph you for it, and then you will have to sign it. I don't know why they would then have to mail it, but you need to ask your issuing authority to know for sure.

    Good Luck

    Joe
     
  10. JamisJockey

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    They are delivered to your address.
    Get a PO box.
     
  11. SapperLeader

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    Thefumegator - I would get a PO Box, and start sending more sensitive mail to that box. That way, your parents can open to thier hearts content the credit card applications and junk from schools, and your ccw permit and any further paperwork will arrive safe and sound at the po box. Theres no reason your parents need to know if you have a ccw permit. From several of your previous posts, it sounds like they would be likely to advertise it to the world, and violate your privacy. I realize its thier roof their rules, but its also your life.
     
  12. George S.

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    Mail addressed to an individual cannot be opened by another. Federal law. Your mail is your personal property and your parents should respect that. It sounds like you need to have a heart-to-heart talk with your folks about your privacy.

    Moving out is a big step for some people and it comes with a lot of responsibility that is mostly financial in nature. All of a sudden you have bills to pay and things to buy: rent, electricity, gas, food, toilet paper, and whatever else. Paying bills promptly helps to establish yourself as responsible and dependable. Don't pay the rent and the manager tosses your stuff out on the sidewalk. Don't pay the light bill and the TV doesn't work anymore.

    As far as your CCW goes, if it's in process and it is supposed to be mailed to your home, it will probably be in an envelope marked as coming from the jusrisdiction that issued it. This may set off your folks as from what you are saying, it will set them off. Again, it's your mail and they can ask about it but they should NOT open the envelope.

    If you have worries about them seeing you have a CCW, what are they going to say if they find a weapon in your room? What are their opinions about firearms in general and handguns in particular?

    A PO box may help if you remain in your parents house but it sounds like you need to discuss bigger issues with your folks first.
     
  13. rick_reno

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    Here (Idaho) we go to the licensing part of the DMV to pick them up. The county sheriff mails a letter notifying you to go to the DMV.
     
  14. armoredman

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    Ditto mail issue - Fed offense. You are over 21, so a legal adult, and your mail is inviolate. If they refuse to see this, get a print ut from US Postal Service website, or local law library, and ive them a copy. Then GET OUT! What else of yours are they rifling whilst thou art away? find a cheap apt, and get gone. Also, don't fall into the "bachelor pad/part den" attitude when you do get out - getting drunk and stupid is a great way to lose that shiny new CCW forever.
     
  15. Red Rook

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    As some othes have said, there are some critical breakdowns here.

    1. Privacy. If your parents want you to live there they must at some length respect your privacy (no opening of mail, no going through your drawers, no opening your door without knocking etc.) It seems there needs to be a heart to heart with the P's and let them know that while it seems to them that its within their right to be opening your mail etc., this must stop.

    2. Responsibility. You are 21 and looking for a quote "incognito way of obtaining that wonderful little card." This in itself is logically flawed. Is it your parents that believe you're not responsible enough to own and legally carry a gun, I don't know. If you think you are responsible enough and must utterly hide the fact you carry, this needs to be addressed. Don't flaunt the fact that you have a ccw but I wouldn't go to such measures in your own home to avoid a conversation about your rights as an individual.

    3. Adulthood. I think that maybe you need some time to reflect and decide what's important for you. I don't know your situation but if I was 21 and being deterred from my intentions and aspirations because my Mom and Dad are 'nosy' and go through mail marked County Sheriff's Office, it might be time to make some tough decisions.

    Good Luck!
     
  16. Smoke

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    Chicken or egg?

    Do you hide things from your parents because they are nosy...or are they nosy because you hide things?

    As others have said, it may be time to move on. If the folks are against you have a License...how will they feel about a firearms in their house? Where will you keep it? Do you have a safe? Do you really plan to carry? How often? Will this be a secret kept from the folks?

    Sounds like it time for you to move out....or live by their rules. Having a CCW is the ultimate sign of responsibility. You don't sound too responsible yet. Sorry.

    Smoke
     
  17. mete

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    Your parents have the right to say -no guns in the house ...Your parents have the right to throw you out of the house . You have the right to leave...Doing things behind their back that they don't like is a sure sign of immaturity. Hope you get it all staightened out in your mind soon. Immaturity + ccw can get you into very serious trouble !!!
     
  18. MICHAEL T

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    If you don't have a job, get one. Then move I have 5 kids my two oldest were out of the house shortly after they turned 18 I was out of the house 10 days after I turned 18 and my wife shortly after she turned 18. You can work ,live away from home and still go to school. Its hard but I belive you will be a better person for it.Why because you earned it,and it was not handed to you. If all else failes join the military . They let you play with all kind of neat toys. That might be you answer, FUN TRAVEL ADVENTURE and you get your own place and paid to. My son with the 101st and lives very well. Has his own room and Mustang rag top.Has money saved for school . Just got back from a 7 day cruise with his GF.:D :D
     
  19. outfieldjack

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    Speaking of breking the law....

    Here in SC it is illegal for someone to Concel Carry in ANOTHER PERSON'S HOUSE without express permission from the HOME-OWNER. So while all of you are harping on his parents openning his mail, you might also consider the fact that without his parents permission, he cannot CCW in THEIR house without THEIR permission.

    Your 21, time to grow up and move out.
     
  20. Zach S

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    Considering its his place of residence as well, I dont think it would be a legal issue.
     
  21. BHPshooter

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    They know I have guns and they grudgingly accept that I am so into them. I wouldn't consider them anti -- both of my parents own several guns -- but they are totally against CCW. I have argued with my Dad about it before, and he says there's no reason to carry a gun, that it's "only for egotists." Yet, he has no problem with keeping guns for defense in the home. :scrutiny:

    I honestly think he's only against it because I'm interested in it. I've discussed all this before, however, so if you want to read the whole thing then you'll have to search for it.

    Fear not. Neither of us drink, party, et cetera. Apparently my idea of a bachelor pad is different than most. ;)

    Who said I was hiding anything? I want my privacy concerning my CCW to avoid conflict... if I was hiding something, don't you think I could figure this out by myself? Why would I be asking?

    Just how do you figure? Is it because I don't want to argue anymore? I don't want animosity between myself and my parents? Or is it because I've made up my OWN mind about something that effects only me?

    How does that make me irresponsible again?

    Wes
     
  22. Sistema1927

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    I am the father of a 25 year old daughter who has been married and away from home for awhile, and a 23 year old son who moved back in with us for a brief period following college graduation, and who has now moved out of state.

    We haven't received any mail for our daughter in some time now, but I certainly wouldn't have opened any of it. If we receive something for our son, we will describe the envelope to him, and only open it and read it to him over the phone at his direction. Otherwise, we stick it all in another envelope and mail it to him.

    He is 23, is a college graduate, and has a right to his privacy. Your parents need to recognize that as well.

    That said, I think you have a couple of choices:

    1) Put up with their intrusions into your privacy as the price you pay for living under their roof.
    2) Try to continue to live there, but tell them that they can't open your mail. (Good luck!)
    3) Sic the Postal inspector on them for Federal Mail violations (once again, good luck!)
    4) Get a P.O. Box.
    5) Move out. (I hear that the military will give you "3 hots and a cot".)

    I guess it all depends upon your priorities.
     
  23. Smoke

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    You did. "...it is imperative that it not come in the mail to my house."
    "I need an "incognito" way of obtaining that wonderful little card"

    Your words. If you cannot discuss openly with your parents that your are obtaining a CCW and receive the thing in the mail, then Yes, you are hiding something.



    Ahh yes, the "affects only me" thing. Let's see, you will be caring a weapon in their house. You are currently living in their house.
    Probably eating their food, and not helping with their bills. Others are affected.

    If I have presumed to much and you are paying them money to help with room, board and bills...then I apologize.

    Move out.

    Smoke
     
  24. Trebor

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    Intercept the mail and remove the permit while you bring the mail in. Hey, it worked for report cards, didn't it?
     
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    As harsh as it is, Smoke is right. Time to break the chains. You might be in school...working...whatever...But you are 21, and an adult. Take a stand or move out.
     
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