Should I carry into somebody's house?

[.cheese.]

I haven't had this ever come up before because usually when I have a social event like a BBQ or whatnot, I have it at my place.

Today though, I'm going to a BBQ at a friend's place (who lives with his parents - he's only 22 and I'm dead-center twenties - just for reference).

Unrelated - but I'm bringing my family-famous Maple & Brown Sugar baked beans with brown-sugar marinated hot-dogs (and crumpled maple smoked bacon) - *family famous as in I'm the only one in my family who knows the full recipe and get asked to make it all the time. *

Anyways, afterwards, he and I were probably going to go hang out at a local outdoor mall/shopping-center and he had mentioned the possibility of going to have a few drinks afterwards (which is a problem for CCW'ing of course).

Here's the question: The BBQ is at his place - would it be wrong for me to CCW when in their house? I've gotten so used to CCW'ing that I just would rather carry all the time now, even when I'm in a place I feel is relatively secure, it just feels more comfortable (kinda like the awkward feeling you get if you forget to wear your watch).

Afterwards I would definitely want to CCW at the mall/shopping-center as I pretty much CCW always and especially in public places like that.....

the only problem is "getting a few drinks" in which case what I think I'll do is see if we can hit a bar-and-grill, he can have a few drinks, and I'll just say I'm not in the mood for beer and I'll have soda or two - that way more than 50% of the revenue comes from food and it's not just a bar.

But the main question is carrying in the guy's parents' house. I've never faced that before. I'd hate to disrespect them somehow and I don't know what their position on guns is. Obviously optimally they wouldn't know, but there's always that 1% chance or so that I'd accidentally flash when bending over.

 

[loki.fish]

Ask him, he's sure to know how his parents feel. I'd hate to see what would happen if you carried, they noticed, then proceeded to flip out about you having a gun. Could get messy. Ask your buddy to ask his parents or just ask your buddy.

 

[GhostlyKarliion]

I most certainly would carry into someone’s house, my bubble doesn't disappear when I go into someone’s house, and in my bubble we carry

I don't drink, so I wouldn't have to worry about the latter issue.

I usually operate on the don't-ask-don't-tell policy, they don't ask and I don't tell.

 

[bpisler]

Ask him what his parents would think if you
carried concealed in their house.Since it's not
his house they would have the final word.

 

[jcramin]

Better to ask forgiveness and ask permission is what I alwsys say

J

 

[jeffkirchner]

Just keep your gun concealed and check for a "no guns" sign before you go into their house.

 

[BADUNAME13]

For me: No gun, No go.

If you decide to drink you can alway 'Go to your car for a second.'

 

[waynedm]

I'd carry and not tell.

As for the bar I go to bars all the time carrying, I just don't drink. I only drink at home. I also don't go to places that forbid guns. On that subject, does anybody have a PDF or something or know a link to print off those business-type cards that say 'No Guns, No Cash' or whatever? I know I've heard of them, I've just never seen them and I'd like to print them off and hand them out to businesses that have those signs.

 

[waynedm]

Nevermind, I found one.

Microsoft Word*
http://www.minnesotaconcealcarry.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/no-guns.doc

 

[PennsyPlinker]

Interesting question. I will be traveling on business, and staying in two private homes as well as some hotels during the trip. I plan on carrying, but in the private homes, my piece will be locked up in its case just like it will be for the TSA on the plane. I don't have a problem with that.

Come to think of it, I would probably carry at a party too. I would rather be alive to apologize than dead and not hurt someone's feelings. It's private, ya know? They don't ask what kind of undies you are wearing, do they?

 

[ZeSpectre]

For me carry concealed means just that. I don't go out of my way to let anyone know I'm carrying and my wife and I have worked out a couple of "hint" words she can drop in casual conversation to let me know if she notices I'm printing or something.

However. If I go to someone else's house and they know or realize and ask me to not carry I will respect their wishes immediately and either remove just the sidearm, or the sidearm AND myself, depending on their attitude.

I do reserve the right to have a private conversation with them later though to see if I can find out why they are uncomfortable.

EDIT: also I'm a teatotaler so the drinking thing is never an issue for me

 

[ball3006]

I usually carry...

except when I know I will have a few drinks, which is rare for me away from home. One time the wife and I were at her uncle's house for dinner when the wife's cousin's husband, who is a flaming AH, started making derogitory remarks about the "sissy with the fanny pack". I was dressed in shorts and a tshirt. I did not hear him as I am hearing impared. If I cannot see you speak, I miss most of what is being said. After this went on for awhile, those present were getting tired of it so my wife pulls him aside and asked him if he knew why I had a fanny pack on? He make some off color remark and the wife says he, me, uses it to carry his pistol in. He has been rather civil since. chris3

 

[Taurus 66]

I don't know what state you live in, but here in Upstate NY, there's no law saying you have to notify a homeowner you are carrying concealed. Being that there's no law on this, I leave it at that, and out of sight is out of mind.

If the laws are similar where you're at and what you worry about most is printing or flashing your gun and having them freak out on you, nobody can help you there. Just from that point on hold all future BBQs at your house.

 

[Onmilo]

When invited as a house guest it is always good, well, and proper etiquette to inform the homeowner you are CCW qualified and then seek permission to do so in their home.

A mans home is his castle and packing a heater in that persons abode unannounced can get you in a situation of grief nobody need deal with.

 

[Biker]

If I was going to a friend's house who didn't want me to carry, I wouldn't go, I would have to respect his House Rules. Having said that, I have no friends who fit that description.
As to everywhere else, if there ain't a metal detector, I'm carrying and likely drinking like a 190lb, bearded, hairy Harley fish.

Biker

 

[MechAg94]

I wouldn't care in my house. If it wasn't someone I knew real well, I would just tell them to keep it concealed and don't pull it out. I don't want to see it.

I would say to just make sure you are really well concealed and not just wearing a vest or something that could slip open.

 

[GhostlyKarliion]

On that subject, does anybody have a PDF or something or know a link to print off those business-type cards that say 'No Guns, No Cash' or whatever?

I have recreated the file in a .jpg for use here in Oklahoma, feel free to modify it for your home state.

 

[pax]

I wrote a longish article on this question: http://www.corneredcat.com/Social/friend.aspx

Boils down to, I carry into people's homes. And I don't announce my carry status to anyone. My reasons why are in the article.

pax

 

[Hokkmike]

Nobody should know that you are carrying, right? So what would it matter? If it is the kind of practice (CCW) that you feel compelled to make notice of then I would worry about (that person) carrying anywhere.

(I am not directing this personally, rather philosophically)

 

[ZeSpectre]

Pax,
the more times I look at your site the more I love it. My wife is becoming fond of it as well

Your section on racking the slide on a pistol was an enormous help to my wife.

 

[beaucoup ammo]

Err on the side of caution and check with your Buddy. Murphy's Law has a bad way of popping up at the most inopportune times.

How good a friend is he, and would you risk alienating his parents should they harbor objections about carrying (in their home) and the worst happens? You might print regardless of how deep the concealment under certain circumstances..anything's possible.

I've lasted 61 years by being prepared and respecting others, especially when I'm in their homes.

Could very well be, you'll end up in a room with Mom and Pop comparing firearms!! :O) IMO, check first..

 

[Eleven Mike]

As soon as you arrive, brandish the weapon and announce loudly that you are carrying a gun. Inform those present that you do not appreciate unkind comments about yourself or your carry weapon. Then ask the host to bring you the best food, drink and entertainment. Bid the other guests enjoy themselves. And most of all, have fun and make new friends. This has worked well for me. I'm not allowed any weapons where I currently live, but I do enjoy the company of many fine friends in the exercise yard.

 

[Biker]

For some reason, Eleven Mike, that made me bust a gut.

Biker

 

[hexidismal]

Eleven Mike .. hehe

Seriously though, much like pax I just carry and don't tell anybody. They don't ask, and I don't tell. And if they did ask .. depending on who it was, I'd probably lie. I've been carrying a long time now, and no ones ever noticed (that I didn't want to) yet. I'd believe that most "makes" are due to the carriers psychological need to show off the gun anyway.

 

[Eleven Mike]

I'd believe that most "makes" are due to the carriers psychological need to show off the gun anyway.

See, my method avoids all that. An emergency lock-down has just been announced, so I'll see you all later.