Should I carry into somebody's house?
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Notch
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I would never consider stating that I was carrying a firearm and asking permision to do so. Carrying a sidearm for protection does you no good unless you carry it ALL THE TIME. To do otherwise is no different than gun grabers speculating about their safety in certain conditions ( as in, "why would I need to carry in my suburban neighborhood?") The reason we carry is because we realize that safety and security can not be assumed in any given situation. I myself would not even think of letting a 20 year old that lives with his parents know that I carry in the first place.
First, I carry where not posted, or otherwise illegal. I will leave if asked to. Any party I attend will be with folks I know & they know me, so some of us will be carrying anyway. Partys at my home are most allways done with some shooting involved too, eather before or after, with all attending welcome to participate, (I live in a rural setting and have a range in my back yard).
I do not drink any spirits of any kind while armed, and would advise anyone else the same. if I feel the need for a beer, it's while at home and not in excess.
Just my 2 cents worth.
I do not drink any spirits of any kind while armed, and would advise anyone else the same. if I feel the need for a beer, it's while at home and not in excess.
Just my 2 cents worth.
spankaveli
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My business is on-site computer support. 99% of my customers are residential.
I carry into 100% of their homes. Afaik, I haven't printed or otherwise made it noticeable that I'm carrying. If I have, nothing has been said. It's not like I simply sit at a desk, I do alot of climing under desks, bending over and things like that. Concealed is concealed, as always.
I carry into 100% of their homes. Afaik, I haven't printed or otherwise made it noticeable that I'm carrying. If I have, nothing has been said. It's not like I simply sit at a desk, I do alot of climing under desks, bending over and things like that. Concealed is concealed, as always.
ZeSpectre
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so I'm sure I read that it's legal in VA but now I can't find the code. Anybody care to save me some search frustration ?
Thanks
Ze
Thanks
Ze
Eleven Mike
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Why?
mmike87
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I carry into people houses all the time, concealed, of course. I don't ask permission for my pocket knife, I won't with my gun, either.
The exception is that if I am drinking, at ALL, I don't carry. On an empty stomach I feel imparied at one beer (I don't drink very often) and even if I had my gun I probably couldn't hit anything anyway after one beer, so I leave it at home in those cases.
I think by the very act of asking you're confirming many people's suspicions that gun are "dangerous." If they are not dangerous, why are you even asking? I'm just saying ...
The exception is that if I am drinking, at ALL, I don't carry. On an empty stomach I feel imparied at one beer (I don't drink very often) and even if I had my gun I probably couldn't hit anything anyway after one beer, so I leave it at home in those cases.
I think by the very act of asking you're confirming many people's suspicions that gun are "dangerous." If they are not dangerous, why are you even asking? I'm just saying ...
plexreticle
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Most my friends are gun people so it isn't a problem. If I don't know the people or think they would have a problem I leave at home or in the car.
I think it's just a matter of being respectful of other peoples boundaries.
I think it's just a matter of being respectful of other peoples boundaries.
#1: I carry 24/7 wherever legal. If people cannot trust me with my firearms, they cannot trust me. If they trust me, they will not be around me. I do not drink, so issues are pretty simple.
#2: I note the following because my wife is Chilean. If you hang around with certain cultures, there is considerable hugging at arrival/departure. That might get you somelooks...or some grabs to see what the hell is that on your side? In the event of #2, see paragraph #1.
#2: I note the following because my wife is Chilean. If you hang around with certain cultures, there is considerable hugging at arrival/departure. That might get you somelooks...or some grabs to see what the hell is that on your side? In the event of #2, see paragraph #1.
Eleven Mike
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Jac,
I think the point is that any twenty-year-old (the fellow in question is actually 22) who hasn't moved out yet is not mature enough or is just a loser. I don't know where we got this idea that adults should never live with their parents. Maybe housing is cheaper than it used to be?
For the record, I'm a married home-owner, but I did live with my parents for a couple of years in between military service and college.
I think the point is that any twenty-year-old (the fellow in question is actually 22) who hasn't moved out yet is not mature enough or is just a loser. I don't know where we got this idea that adults should never live with their parents. Maybe housing is cheaper than it used to be?
For the record, I'm a married home-owner, but I did live with my parents for a couple of years in between military service and college.
Unless he has specifically mentioned that he doesn't want CCW in his parents' house, I'd say don't worry about it and CCW. He knows you CCW, right?
In which case I would personally consider not going. But that's me. If he's not going to accept you as you come, then he doesn't want you there that badly.
In which case I would personally consider not going. But that's me. If he's not going to accept you as you come, then he doesn't want you there that badly.
Eleven Mike
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Yeah, you get no respect, but you can sure save some money that way!
Rem700SD
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I'd ask him of his parents views, and follow the Golden Rule. It's their house , their property, their rules. If you don't like them, don't go. Your friend should know his own parents and you well enough to make the judgement call.
Dan
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YOU are responsible for YOU (and your kids and family)
Keep it concealed, part of that is the 'element of suprise', annoucing every time you enter a new building that you are carrying is unwise and unecessary IMHO.
You are taking care of your business, why should they mind? No different than kissing your wife at their house, displining your child, taking your medication, or anything else that is your business.
Now, they do reserve the right to tell you their opinion of your choice, even ask you not to do it. That's fine, you don't have to listen. They can ask you to leave, and you are morally and legally required to do so IMHO.
I remember once family A invited family B, C, and mine over, a family oriented home cooked pizza party because they all had girls of the same age, 2 had boys 1 year younger (me and another) 1 had a boy 3 years younger, and some little kids
Well, Family B had a child who wasn't in kindergarden yet, but started t he next year. and he misbehaived by throwing some food, tryign to get attention, yadda yadda. His mom verbally disiplined him. He did it again, and his mom took him aside out of the area and gave him a little swat on his behind. Family A saw this. They said something to the effect of 'we don't believe in spanking' to which B replied something to the effect of 'that's your choice, we believe in a controlled and reasonable spanking, different parenting styles' Family A then clarified with basically 'You misunderstood, we do not allow spanking of children in this house' At this point my father interviened by standing up and saying basically 'thanks for having us over, we'll return the favor soon, but we need to get going'. The host was suprised, it was basically the middle of the pizza party and enquired, to which my father replied basically 'I believe in spanking my kids too, I don't want them to get any ideas in thier heads about what they can get away with in this 'spank free zone' and while I respect your deicion, i don't feel bound by it, so my family and I had better leave before my kids need to learn that your 'spank free home' rule doesn't apply to me and how I choose to dipline my kids.' So we got herded out, and family B was getting into their car as we pulled out. Later I fouind out that family C (thier boy was enough younger that we would play together when our sisters were the cause of us being together, but didn't seek eachother out) left soon after too.
Respect the laws of the mans house, but no need to go into a long discussion about each and every rule. Assume he is reasoanble, and his rules are reasonable. If you find youself in conflict with one of his rules, you must decide if you wish to comply, or depart.
Keep it concealed, part of that is the 'element of suprise', annoucing every time you enter a new building that you are carrying is unwise and unecessary IMHO.
You are taking care of your business, why should they mind? No different than kissing your wife at their house, displining your child, taking your medication, or anything else that is your business.
Now, they do reserve the right to tell you their opinion of your choice, even ask you not to do it. That's fine, you don't have to listen. They can ask you to leave, and you are morally and legally required to do so IMHO.
I remember once family A invited family B, C, and mine over, a family oriented home cooked pizza party because they all had girls of the same age, 2 had boys 1 year younger (me and another) 1 had a boy 3 years younger, and some little kids
Well, Family B had a child who wasn't in kindergarden yet, but started t he next year. and he misbehaived by throwing some food, tryign to get attention, yadda yadda. His mom verbally disiplined him. He did it again, and his mom took him aside out of the area and gave him a little swat on his behind. Family A saw this. They said something to the effect of 'we don't believe in spanking' to which B replied something to the effect of 'that's your choice, we believe in a controlled and reasonable spanking, different parenting styles' Family A then clarified with basically 'You misunderstood, we do not allow spanking of children in this house' At this point my father interviened by standing up and saying basically 'thanks for having us over, we'll return the favor soon, but we need to get going'. The host was suprised, it was basically the middle of the pizza party and enquired, to which my father replied basically 'I believe in spanking my kids too, I don't want them to get any ideas in thier heads about what they can get away with in this 'spank free zone' and while I respect your deicion, i don't feel bound by it, so my family and I had better leave before my kids need to learn that your 'spank free home' rule doesn't apply to me and how I choose to dipline my kids.' So we got herded out, and family B was getting into their car as we pulled out. Later I fouind out that family C (thier boy was enough younger that we would play together when our sisters were the cause of us being together, but didn't seek eachother out) left soon after too.
Respect the laws of the mans house, but no need to go into a long discussion about each and every rule. Assume he is reasoanble, and his rules are reasonable. If you find youself in conflict with one of his rules, you must decide if you wish to comply, or depart.
Mandirigma
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First off you are going to a BBQ! Thats what BBQ guns are for!
Would you feel compelled to ask them permission to carry a knife or OC?
If so then yeah, go ahead and ask. I don't flaunt that I carry, but I do answer honestly if asked.
I carry all the time 24/7 with the expection of the times I'm in a federal building. I'm with biker on this.
I know for a FACT that a criminal carries where they will regardless of laws and signs. Why should I be bound to those rules? It will be a cold comfort to my family if I am hurt/killed because a BG didn't follow the rules and I did.
Don't go to those places some may say. Why? Life is for living. >Life's Journey is NOT to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting HOLY SH#&!!! WHAT A RIDE!!!!!!!! < I'm going to live my life. I'm not going to worry so much about my security that I stay home and lock myself in 24/7. I do think about it a bit, thats why I carry.
I carry routinely into other peoples houses. I haven't been "made" yet. I've even suprised some of my friends and thier significant others when they've found out I carry. "You aren't carrying now are you?" my answer typically is "Every day that you've known me." then I usually have to lean and rap my knuckles on my carry piece.
Would you feel compelled to ask them permission to carry a knife or OC?
If so then yeah, go ahead and ask. I don't flaunt that I carry, but I do answer honestly if asked.
I carry all the time 24/7 with the expection of the times I'm in a federal building. I'm with biker on this.
I know for a FACT that a criminal carries where they will regardless of laws and signs. Why should I be bound to those rules? It will be a cold comfort to my family if I am hurt/killed because a BG didn't follow the rules and I did.
Don't go to those places some may say. Why? Life is for living. >Life's Journey is NOT to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting HOLY SH#&!!! WHAT A RIDE!!!!!!!! < I'm going to live my life. I'm not going to worry so much about my security that I stay home and lock myself in 24/7. I do think about it a bit, thats why I carry.
I carry routinely into other peoples houses. I haven't been "made" yet. I've even suprised some of my friends and thier significant others when they've found out I carry. "You aren't carrying now are you?" my answer typically is "Every day that you've known me." then I usually have to lean and rap my knuckles on my carry piece.
Donut
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Eleven Mike said:
I wish I could save money while living at home.
I'm 23, have a good, professional job, and am a responsible handgun owner. But between my hobbies (racecars, photography and shooting aren't cheap, by any stretch of the imagination) and the cost of living in Southern California, living at home is almost a necessity. I know several people who live "at home" who make quite a bit more than me out here.
Sure it sucks for dating, and I get the occaisional funny look, but I suppose it's a matter of priorities, not maturity.
DirksterG30
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My policy is don't ask, don't tell, although I have some friends that don't mind me open-carrying in their home.
Aguila Blanca
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The only caveat to the "Don't ask, don't tell" responses above would be if you live in one of those few backwards states that makes it a crime to carry a firearm into a private residence without the owner's explicit permission. In such a state, I would ask. If permission is not forthcoming, I would skip the bash and go have a pizza by myself.
Otherwise, I carry.
Otherwise, I carry.
Declaration Day
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Sorry if this point has already been made; I didn't read every post.
I do not ask permission to CCW in other peoples' homes. AFAIK, all of my friends and family know that I carry. To date, none of them have ever asked me not to bring my pistol into their home. But if anyone did, I would leave and not come back. My pistol is not a liability; I am a responsible person in full control of it.
Friend, family, acquaintance, friend of a friend, it matters not; I will not have my character or integrity insulted. End of discussion.
I do not ask permission to CCW in other peoples' homes. AFAIK, all of my friends and family know that I carry. To date, none of them have ever asked me not to bring my pistol into their home. But if anyone did, I would leave and not come back. My pistol is not a liability; I am a responsible person in full control of it.
Friend, family, acquaintance, friend of a friend, it matters not; I will not have my character or integrity insulted. End of discussion.
Aguila Blanca
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Curiously enough, the only time I asked was awhile back, after a similar thread right here on THR. I was going to visit a friend in another city for the weekend. Enough people chimed in on that thread about how rude and inconsiderate it is to carry a GUN! into someone's house without telling them that I actually asked if he minded.
He said "I'll be a lot more upset if you don't carry. If you don't have a gun then I have to protect both of us."
I've never asked again.
He said "I'll be a lot more upset if you don't carry. If you don't have a gun then I have to protect both of us."
I've never asked again.
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