Do you avoid a buisness because of their anti 2a views?
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PT92
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Yes I do avoid them 100% of the time. My local gun club has a concise and coherent list to follow so it's a snap. To me it's obligatory for a true pro-gun person (not subject to debate IMO).
PT92
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Good point--He has really swung to the left IMO. His recent comments that 'anyone can buy a full-auto AK-47 or Grenade Launcher' absent NICS were imbecilic and worthy of retraction (which, of course, never happened). The guy's ego is bigger than his brain...
Carter
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I generally try to avoid businesses that are anti. However I did kind of screw myself over with that. I decided to open an account at the state employee credit union in NC and move my money away from Bank of America. However, the BOA has no sign preventing carry, the credit union does. oops
One place I probably would still go to no matter what they did was Friendly's. Its an addiction.
One place I probably would still go to no matter what they did was Friendly's. Its an addiction.
skywalkrNCSU
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If they don't want you carrying on their property then that's their prerogative. Personally, if it is a store, restaurant, etc that I like, I am not going to deny myself going there because we have differing opinions. If others want to I understand but it doesn't bother me too much.
DC Plumber
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skywalkrNCSU, that is a very professional statement. I like your view. It IS a business owner's right to have their own views, post them on a sign and either please or offend customers.
Right after Wisconsin passed CC, a restaurant owner that I do work for asked me whether or not he should post a "no cc" sign. He stated that he didn't want the wild west breaking out in his business. He is a very well known liberal in our town, and most of my customers know I'm a conservative person. I asked him if he know how many other states had CC. He had no clue that 48 other states already had CC and no wild west shoot outs were accuring because of legal CC. I told him that odds are, someone has already illegally carried a gun into his restaurant, criminal or not, so why worry about it. He's only going to offend people. He never put up the sign.
Me, I laugh at businesses that post a "no cc" sign. It's their right, and if I want to shop there bad enough, I do. So far I've only seen a liberal church with the sign on it's front door, and well, I only go there to do work and take their payment, they don't get any donations from me.
Right after Wisconsin passed CC, a restaurant owner that I do work for asked me whether or not he should post a "no cc" sign. He stated that he didn't want the wild west breaking out in his business. He is a very well known liberal in our town, and most of my customers know I'm a conservative person. I asked him if he know how many other states had CC. He had no clue that 48 other states already had CC and no wild west shoot outs were accuring because of legal CC. I told him that odds are, someone has already illegally carried a gun into his restaurant, criminal or not, so why worry about it. He's only going to offend people. He never put up the sign.
Me, I laugh at businesses that post a "no cc" sign. It's their right, and if I want to shop there bad enough, I do. So far I've only seen a liberal church with the sign on it's front door, and well, I only go there to do work and take their payment, they don't get any donations from me.
o Unforgiven o
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My sentiments exactly.
lobo9er
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if there is a "no gun" sign and I don't have to go there I go else where when ever possible. Including Gun Shops.
My experience says that while 'concealed means concealed', that doesn't necessarily mean nobody knows (or has a suspicion that) it is there.
archigos
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Any business owned by this guy: http://blog.timesunion.com/baumgartner/out-of-control/1976/
Walmart
Kmart
Goodyear
Dicks Sporting Goods
Sports Authority
Pizza Hut
The list goes on...
Walmart
Kmart
Goodyear
Dicks Sporting Goods
Sports Authority
Pizza Hut
The list goes on...
I open carry there all the time. I buy ammunition there regularly. They sell guns. Doesn't seem very anti gun to me.
22-rimfire
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I give my business to people I like, can communicate with, and trust. I try not to include political views as a barometer on whether someone is "worthy" of my business.
I try to abide by the business' rules and if they don't want you carrying a firearm inside their property, then I don't. But I don't always know what their views are and more often than not, concealed is concealed and nobody knows what you have on your belt or in your pocket and don't care as long as you aren't hurting anyone.
I try to abide by the business' rules and if they don't want you carrying a firearm inside their property, then I don't. But I don't always know what their views are and more often than not, concealed is concealed and nobody knows what you have on your belt or in your pocket and don't care as long as you aren't hurting anyone.
archigos
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In NY they require a concealed carry permit to sell handgun ammunition - that's anti-gun. The is the same reason that Sports Authority is on the list.
Walmart also has a known problem where if you buy a gun from them, they refuse to allow you to take possession of what is now your property until you are outside the store.
New York certainly is anti gun. No argument there.
Don't you need a permit to simply own/possess a handgun in New York?
You are free to choose as you like, but me...I am not especially bothered by Walmart walking the gun to the front door and then giving it to me. Sure, it's silly. No, it doesn't make any sense...but as I said I open carry there all the time (MANY Walmarts in multiple states, over a period of MANY years)...they sell ammo...they sell guns...and I have never had to show anything but proof of age to buy ammo from them...and sometimes I haven't shown them anything at all.
archigos
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Yes, but not to buy ammo. Many rifles (which can be owned without a permit or registration) use handgun ammo and Walmart refuses to cater to people in that situation. Walmart's NY issue is not related to NY law; its their own policy.Warp said:
Why is that their policy in NY but not in other states?
archigos
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That's an excellent question. I think its their policy they apply as a blanket to all anti-rights states, but I'm not certain. In MA, you -do- need to have a permit for a handgun to possess handgun ammo.Warp said:
Not to be snarky, but my first thought was, "So?"
Besides others who may carry, I doubt 0.000000001 percent of the population would even think about it or realize what the bulge was if they saw anything at all. Most are too self absorbed. I'm sure some LEOs would take notice, but I've been around a ton of cops and never questioned.
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No, but I will avoid or have nothing to do with PEOPLE who are anti-gun!
...if the business in question is posted "no guns" and an employee, manager, plainclothes loss prevention, loss prevention/security in uniform or watching over a camera, etc, knows that the gun is there the "I will ignore the sign because concealed means concealed" thing kinda goes out the window. It is something to keep in mind when choosing to carry somewhere that has posted a no guns or no weapons sign.
I've been the employee who spotted people (with 99% certainty that they were armed), even though their gun was concealed...and I can almost guarantee that they would tell you nobody knew. Don't assume.
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Yes, absolutely. And I try and make sure the manager knows that I will not be back, and why.
hermannr
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yes, absolutely...I also inform them why...however, where I live they are rare as hens teeth.
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