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Most Republicans probably had something to to do with it. There's no interest on either side for "us". We are on are own.
Tulsi talking 2A??
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Shanvanvocht
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For the very reason that the Federal Government has no Constitutional authority to order the States to do anything. Any such law would be unconstitutional (cf New York vs United States [505US144 (1992)] and Printz vs United States [521US898 (1997)]) and any true Constitutionalist would vote against it.
Thank you. Great post! The devil is in the details and one needs to dig a little deeper sometimes.
Some of the same folks are critical of Justice Scalia as well. How could he possibly have been friends with Justice Ginsburg?
We have to agree to disagree respectfully, and remember that we are all Americans. Tulsi embodies that spirit as good as or better than anyone else on the National political scene. And for that reason, she probably won’t make it far.
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My jury’s out, and I’m just watching and waiting because it takes more than words to convince me. It crossed my mind that one of the best ways to get elected is to change affiliation to what appears to be the winning side. In this case join the conservatives but continue to perform as a liberal. In todays day and age we call them RINOs. I am waiting for extended periods of action, not just one or two short performances. And I don’t buy into the excuse that one infringement is more important than another so I’ll choose the one that I think is most important. Don’t they call that capitulation- let that one go because the other one is more important. I have serious doubts on this one.
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Sure, we can disagree respectfully. After all the conservatives have been doing that for years. They write letters of protest, of condemnation, initiate reams of petitions, strongly verbally protest, and do everything in their power to fight a clean political battle - and it does absolutely nothing. and the liberals continue the dirty fight and openly break laws which were put in place to prevent the fiascos we now face. But we respectfully disagreed. So let’s try it again.
Buzznrose
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Well, I sure hope so.
I don’t believe halting the free exercise of a right, as she voted against, makes her anything but a friend to the gun control crowd.
marksman13
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I think it has a lot to do with the company she’s keeping these days. I listened to her speak on the Jocko podcast last year. She seems to be finding friends in new places and I think that has affected the way she views the world.
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There are gun owners who supported the bumpstock ban, red flag laws, and universal background checks who are very progun on everything else. I seen pages of debates on popular firearm forums with members who had different opinions on the aforementioned gun laws.
It's like some of us think if you do not opposed every single gun law imaginable, then you are the equivalent to a Gabby Grifford, Micheal Bloomberg, or are just plain outright a "leftists Liberal," and there is absolutely zero room for nuances or gray area in-between.
doubleh
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I can't help but remember the old saying, "If a politician's lips are moving they are lying" which seems more true everyday.
Howland937
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If it's a true change of heart, I can appreciate that.
It doesn't seem relevant one way or another in the grand scheme, though. She's unlikely to win any election in the near future simply because of the skepticism on one side and abandoning the other. Lip service that won't amount to anything tangible for any of us.
It doesn't seem relevant one way or another in the grand scheme, though. She's unlikely to win any election in the near future simply because of the skepticism on one side and abandoning the other. Lip service that won't amount to anything tangible for any of us.
Shanghai McCoy
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It just occurred to me, is talking the only "job skill" that any of these politicians have...? 
Gut feeling is its self promotion. I think she has a new talk show on the alternative media stuff. Rumble maybe it was. Her motive is most likely to build a following and get clicks or whatever. She will probably be doing a bunch of shooting photo ops and get a new makeover to draw attention.
It just occurred to me, is talking the only "job skill" that any of these politicians have...?
Think of them more as salesmen.
Shanghai McCoy
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In that case I would have to think "less" of them as well...
LiveLife
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Over the decades, I have learned that politicians say whatever to get elected/re-elected.
Fact is historic record setting number of guns were sold in the past decade and 20-36 million guns were sold annually in recent years with Supreme Court's historic Bruen ruling reversing many states' anti-2A laws (And many cases going back up and down the circuit/district courts with "two step" process eliminated and now only using "text and history" approach).
Tulsi now speaking pro-2A means what she said in the past is not going to get her elected. This is good news which means "gun culture" and sentiment of voters may have shifted towards pro-2A and gun ownership in light of crime and defunding of police (Which BTW has turned around for many cities/states because it backfired).
So my guess is that politicians, regardless of party affiliation, will talk less about defunding the police and less about speaking against gun ownership/2A. And if they do, chances are, they are not going to be elected.
So to me, Tulsi talking 2A just means she wants to be elected.
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Guy48065
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There's enormous political currency in her very publicly leaving the Dems and encouraging others to join her.
That alone earns her my respect.
That alone earns her my respect.
It just means she blows whichever way the wind is going. She has no convictions other than whatever suits her best at the moment. I have more respect for someone who is firm in their beliefs even if they are opposite of mine.
Howland937
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To have such a public change of heart while otherwise not doing anything meaningful does seem like she's trying to sell tickets to something. Podcast or talk show host, whichever. Like the pop singer-turned-country, or vice-versa (or Chris Cuomo for that matter)...just rebranding to try to stay relevant.
well said. Next mass shooter incident she could easily flip on a dime and start talking "sensable" gun control.
How so many people fall for this stuff over and over and over and over is beyond me. Politicians dont think on the average persons level. They are more in line with celebrites than common folk.
Maybe dancing with the stars is in her future. Who knows... who cares. These people are all mutts and love attention. Its all good for entertainment I guess if thats someones thing. I just watch old films and play sports. Talking firearm stuff here is nice due to the knowledge people have here though.
citizenconn
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I could be wrong but I think she is still in the Army Reserve (16 years and counting) in a medical position. She has 2 deployments in Iraq.
I'm old enough to remember when most Democrats here in Texas were pretty middle of the road on most issues and I don't remember any that had issues with the 2A, at least until Reagan was shot (I still remember that day).
This was back in the early-to-mid 80s, but of my 2 primary recommendations to the Air Force Academy, one was a republican and the other was a Democrat. Both were very supportive of our military back then. My how things have changed.
gwpercle
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A politician will say anything to get elected .
My Momma told me it was a sin to tell a lie .
Will there be any politician's allowed into heaven ?
Today's Joke: How can you tell when a politician is lying ?
When you see his lips moving !
Gary
My Momma told me it was a sin to tell a lie .
Will there be any politician's allowed into heaven ?
Today's Joke: How can you tell when a politician is lying ?
When you see his lips moving !
Gary
Guy48065
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Even if what you say is true in the big picture her departure can have a huge influence. If you read her criticisms of today's Democrat party they are spot on--and very damning. Similar criticisms from former Democrats like Elon Musk and Candice Owens have also made the news and on TV.
My hope is that a significant number of Democrats who are capable of thinking for themselves will hear these words, find truth in them and see that the D party is not their friends.
This is way more important than whether Tulsi's words are heartfelt. I personally believe they are. If you read her substack explanation of why she chose to join the Democrat party when she first got into politics, and how different the party is from the facade, maybe you'll believe in her sincerity.
doubleh
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It just occurred to me, is talking the only "job skill" that any of these politicians have...?
Lying seems to be right up there with talking but, yes, mostly talk and very little action from any.
Edited to add: With today's political group inaction is probably a good thing.
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The reality is many have to lie because voters do not want to hear the truth. Most would never get elected if they were completely honest about what needed to be done, what they can and can't deliver, etc. Then they have to he careful about what they say because it can be spun and used against them.
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