Do you buy Murom primers??

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CQB45ACP said:
True that. But, no one, not one, bureau employee ever made such an allegation after their death. And we can rest assured not all employees were THAT loyal or fearful that even from the grave they better not speak out.
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For we all know that power never reaches beyond the grave.
 
Remington1911 said:
For we all know that power never reaches beyond the grave.
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True again. I should also have said the Washington Post never made the allegation either. Yes, they liked to say “some allege he and Tolson…” but they never alleged it themselves even after his death.

I remember shooting in the FBI range (the original/old one in the DOJ building before Hoover building was built) it was the first indoor range I had ever seen. Someone did collect both the brass and lead. Revolvers we’re still being used so that was easy but for the tours Thompson .50cal machine guns were used to wow the tourists. Brass wasn’t collected till end of the day.
 
CQB45ACP said:
True again. I should also have said the Washington Post never made the allegation either. Yes, they liked to say “some allege he and Tolson…” but they never alleged it themselves even after his death.

I remember shooting in the FBI range (the original/old one in the DOJ building before Hoover building was built) it was the first indoor range I had ever seen. Someone did collect both the brass and lead. Revolvers we’re still being used so that was easy but for the tours Thompson .50cal machine guns were used to wow the tourists. Brass wasn’t collected till end of the day.
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A LONG time ago I was one of the tourists. I doubt they still do that.

I remember them having all this stuff in the walls, like display cabinets with stuff they took off bad guys, One was deep with krugerrands....keep in mind this was a good 20 years before the end of white rule in SA. I bet the gold was 6" deep....hundreds of coins.
 
CQB45ACP said:
True again. I should also have said the Washington Post never made the allegation either. Yes, they liked to say “some allege he and Tolson…” but they never alleged it themselves even after his death.

I remember shooting in the FBI range (the original/old one in the DOJ building before Hoover building was built) it was the first indoor range I had ever seen. Someone did collect both the brass and lead. Revolvers we’re still being used so that was easy but for the tours Thompson .50cal machine guns were used to wow the tourists. Brass wasn’t collected till end of the day.
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did they let the tourists shoot the .50 Thompson???

I would sign up for a tour every lunch hour
 
Remington1911 said:
A LONG time ago I was one of the tourists. I doubt they still do that.

I remember them having all this stuff in the walls, like display cabinets with stuff they took off bad guys, One was deep with krugerrands....keep in mind this was a good 20 years before the end of white rule in SA. I bet the gold was 6" deep....hundreds of coins.
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I actually just checked their website...they have a self guided one requiring some sort of preclearance it seems. Looks like all glitzy photos not real stuff.

I never went on tour in Hoover building and then it was closed after 9/11. Didn’t know it reopened

The old building tour was great because it actually went through work areas including the laboratory with live evidence. The gun collection was amazing too...almost as good as NRA museum.

That’s crazy about the gold
 
CQB45ACP said:
True again. I should also have said the Washington Post never made the allegation either. Yes, they liked to say “some allege he and Tolson…” but they never alleged it themselves even after his death.

I remember shooting in the FBI range (the original/old one in the DOJ building before Hoover building was built) it was the first indoor range I had ever seen. Someone did collect both the brass and lead. Revolvers we’re still being used so that was easy but for the tours Thompson .50cal machine guns were used to wow the tourists. Brass wasn’t collected till end of the day.
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Umm... maybe they were .45's?
 
Since we're off topic anyway, I have a genuine box of U.S. Army Ammo labeled for the Thompson. Looks like any other .45 ACP round I've seen. But, the box is labeled specifically for the M1928A1. Seemed pretty cool to me at the time so I kept it along with a lot of other old ammo I inherited.
 
Some of the old ammo I recognized as the type I shot when I was a kid in the early 60s. Both my grandfather and uncle were WW2 vets who served in different theaters. I suspect that is where the Thompson ammo originated.
 
emb said:
Since we're off topic anyway, I have a genuine box of U.S. Army Ammo labeled for the Thompson. Looks like any other .45 ACP round I've seen. But, the box is labeled specifically for the M1928A1. Seemed pretty cool to me at the time so I kept it along with a lot of other old ammo I inherited.
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You may want to keep a close eye on it. The powder is/will go bad if not already. I tore some 1942? ammo down last year for a 8mm german mauser and some Fed purchased in the 60's. From the outside it looked still good. But once I pulled a bullet it was obvious the powder had gone bad. It had been out gassing eating the brass from the inside, just not all the way through yet. The powder was sticking to the brass, you could not knock it out without scrapping. The Fed ammo had already eaten through.

Here is the thread on what I found. https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/powder-breaking-down.893636/
 
We audited an NRA reloading class recently that we originally took about a year ago. The instructor was happy that his LGS had Murom primers, and bought some. Reported that he hadn't had any issue with them, and recommended them.
 
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