Do you like the Tokarev or CZ-52 better?

[makarovnik]

Tokarev

I like both because I like the 7.62x25. I prefer the tokarev because it's smaller, slimmer and way better looking. CZ52's are okay but they are ugly IMHO. My Tok is Polish and has a decent safety but it only blocks the trigger, not the firing pin. The original safety for the tt30 Russian tokarev is the half-cock feature. I know we're not supposed to use the half-cock on a 1911 style pistol but that's how many Russians carried the Tok. You can get way more aftermarket stuff for the CZ52 which is an advantage. If you spend some bucks you can get some nice CZ52's from makarov.com that are hard chromed and have aftermarket grips. Just make sure to check your decocker, firing pin and rollercams as these can be problem areas.

 

[roscoe]

The TT is far more handsome - any pistol in Art Deco is just cool. I do worry about a TT getting damaged from the hot ammo, though.

 

[Rod B]

I'm some what late in posting on this, however I have just become the owner of a Russian Tokarev TT33.

It came with two mags, holster , lanyard & cleaning rod.

It is in excellent condition. I maybe paid a little too much ($295.00) but I am very pleased with my latest purchase.



Here's my newest aquisition.

 

[DMK]

I like the Tokarev better. Much easier to field strip. Points better. Better sights. Feels better in the hand.

Fun range guns, but I wouldn't want to carry either.

I don't have a pic of my Polish Tok, but Rod's Russian is way nicer anyway.

Here's my CZs

 

[Big Gay Al]

Nice Tok. Most that come into the USA have to have a safety installed, per BATFE rules. WHat sort of hoops did you have to go through in Canada to get that?

 

[Rod B]

No problem getting them. As long as you have the required paperwork & a PAL (possession & aquisition licence)

All guns in Canada have to be registered. This can result in a waiting time of a few days to a couple of weeks before you can take possession.

The stupid part of this is that most guns aquired by criminals are never registered.The government doesn't seem to realize criminals do not obey rules & regulations.:banghead:

 

[Big Gay Al]

Word in the milsurp community says, more of the Romanian Tokarevs are coming in country. It appears they have a whole arsenal of these, the fact is their police are issued with such weapon. That means they trust the power of the Tok round.
For a CCW holder the TT 33 or Cz 2 is just perfect for a car gun, cheap but pwerful. Gives a wallop of power.

A number of people I know, prefer them (CZ-52/TT33) for Winter carry, here in Michigan. They're more likely to get through all the layers of clothing we wear for the weather here.

For myself, I'm TRYING to find a FMJ 10mm load.

 

[Joe Demko]

Never owned a CZ but a few guys at the gunclub have them. They've had various issues with theirs. Broken firing pins and junkeriffic magazines, mainly. I wanted a something in 7.62x25 and chose the TT-33 after hearing about their problems.

 

[tinygnat219]

I've had 4 CZ-52s, not a problem with any of them. I gave one to my Brother-in-Law for his birthday, sold one to a good friend, traded another for something else, and my last is staying in the safe.

I have 2 TT-33s. GREAT little guns. Solid, simple, and fun to shoot. I have a Romanian, and a Russian. I wouldn't carry these as the design's on the "ancient" side and there are much better modern pistols out there. However, if I were to go back in time. These guns are coming with me!

 

[Big Gay Al]

The US Army said the same thing about the 1911, and it's still a very popular design among many of us pistol packers. And that design is older than the TT33!

My only real problem with the TT33 is the lack of a manual safety. Of course, current BATFE rules say any that get imported today have to be retrofitted. Which I think is a shame. It's like taking a work of Shakespeare, or Mark Twain, and putting in politically correct language.

But maybe that's just me.

 

[tinygnat219]

Big Gay Al,

Why does this feel wierd writing to you?

Yeah, I can understand that the 1911 is an older design, then again I don't carry a 1911 for the same reason: It's not for me. The TT-33 is a fun pistol to shoot, and I can see it's light years ahead of the pistol it replaced (1895 Nagant). If I had nothing else, I might carry it. But then again, I don't get in the habit of carrying old guns when there is better stuff out there today.

 

[Big Gay Al]

It shouldn't feel writing responding to my message. I'm a firearms enthusiast, like most other people on this forum.

Newer does not always mean better. And "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

I prefer the 1911 design because it has worked just fine for nearly 100 years. It's what I've grown used to. If I wanted a pistol that worked like a Glock, I'd buy a Colt or S&W revolver.

And strangely enough, there are many NEW guns that look a lot like the 1911.

 

[Shrinkmd]

CZ52 longevity?

I am about to order one, and I'm wondering how much ammo and spare parts are good to keep around? After all, they aren't making any more, and you can't ship it back to CZ-USA for servicing! How many rounds do people think the barrel is good for? Springs? Frame itself?

Considering how economical the ammo is, and I'm not afraid of the corrosive bogeyman, I can see it being a fun range gun.

 

[atblis]

Fun

They are amusing. High quality they are not. Make sure you wear safety glasses while shooting them (applies to all gun really).

I'd buy a few if you plan on shooting thousands of rounds. They're still under $200 (used to be what, like $89). I'd also stock up on ammo now.

Firing pins are a good thing to have.

The CZ that we know of here is not the same CZ that made the 52. There are multiple entities allowed to use the CZ name as they were all originally state run factories. CZ Uhersky Brod is the CZ that makes the Cz75. CZ Strakonice was the maker of the 52.

 

[jon_in_wv]

I voted for the CZ52. It hard not to when mine has been so ridiculously accurate. On my first outing I loaded three rounds of Romanian ammo followed by three rounds of Czech ammo. At fifty yards, off a sandbag, the two rounds had different points of impact but both shot identical groups of 2 and 1/4 inches. The czech ammo was about two inches high and Romanian about four inches low.