Don't laugh, I just bought a Hi-Point

[whm1974]

A friend and I pick up a couple of .45 Cal Hi-Points today after buying them last wensday. Good lord these things are heavy...

Anyway my friend here just got his FOID, and needed something for HD, but didn't have that much money. And from what I heard Hi-Points are not bad considering the price.

We might go shooting tomorrow so anything we should do to the guns first?

-Bill

 

[Wags]

Mail the warranty card first?

Field Strip the pistol apart and clean it thourghly before firing. It is a good habit to get into before firing a new firearm.

 

[mosttoyswins]

Congratulations on your new Hi-Point...

Here's mine...

Just kidding with you !

I'm thinking about getting one for a garage/tackle box gun.

 

[Majic]

Good lord these things are heavy...

I think they were chiseled from a brick.

The one my brother has (same caliber) wasn't very comfortable to shoot for me so you might be prepared for that.
Oh, you will need to grow a 3rd arm and hand to take it down for cleaning. Get one of new Bore Snakes and save yourself a lot of headache.
Otherwise they hit where aimed and most goes bang everytime you pull the trigger so have fun.

 

[shortydog]

i have a first generation highpoint 45, with about 5000rds thru it. never have stripped it down just clean the barrel and spray the action.
great for a truck or garage gun. and it goes BOOM every time!

 

[whm1974]

Mail the warranty card first?

I should do this thanks for telling me.

ield Strip the pistol apart and clean it thourghly before firing. It is a good habit to get into before firing a new firearm.

I don't have a mallet or punch. I'll put some oil around the barrel and slide.

never have stripped it down just clean the barrel and spray the action.

That what I keep hearing people are doing. I read that they do same on Ruger's Mark II.

-Bill

 

[Javelin Man]

first shooting

The only thing you need to do to the guns first is load them. I've had no problems with my .45, but I read somewhere that at first, don't load your magazines to capacity. Leave it one short. I think if there is a weakness in these guns, it's the magazine. Any feeding problems will usually be attributed straight to it. Most of the time, there is no problem, though.

A couple drops of oil on the slides won't hurt. That's all I did, and clean the bore after shooting. I haven't torn mine down yet.

Enjoy. BTW, It's not fair to compare a Hi-Point to a brick. The brick isn't that heavy!

 

[whm1974]

Looking through the box, I didn't see a warrenty card but I find a Ghost Ring sight. Is it worthwhile to install this?

It just seems odd for this type of sight to be on a pistol.

-Bill

 

[CajunBass]

I don't think they have a warranty card. I don't recall sending one in for mine anyway. No need really with an unconditional lifetime warranty.

+1 on the ghost ring sight. I really like it.

I posted this on another forum. Though I'd add it here.

A lot of pepople, including myself have said that Hi-Points are heavy. So I got to wondering, Ok. Just how heavy are some other guns. These figures are taken from the manufacturers web-sites.

Hi-Point C-9, 9mm 25 ozs.
Glock 17, 9mm 25 ozs
Ruger P-345, 9mm 29 ozs.

Hi-Point 45 32 ozs.
Springfield Arms
GI 45. (all steel) 38 ozs.
Ruger 90, 45 34 ozs.
Glock 21 45 29.5 ozs.

I'm not saying anything other than it seems based on the manufactures figures that Hi-Points aren't much heavier than a lot of other popular guns. Yes. They're all "full-sized" pistols, and the Hi-Point 9mm, at least calls itself a "compact," but it is more of a full sized handgun. I guess it's a "compact" in comparison to their 40 and 45 models. I also suspect the fact that the weight is high on the Hi-Point makes them "feel" heavy.

 

[MCgunner]

The hi point probably just feels heavy cause it's top heavy. It's a blow back, so the slide has to have a lot of mass and the recoil spring is probably a little stiff.

 

[whm1974]

recoil spring is probably a little stiff.

From some stuff I read the spring is less stiff then other guns. I havn't taken it apart yet so I don't know if it is true.

However I do have an easyer time racking the slide then my XD9.

-Bill

 

[duncan]

 

[whm1974]

THtHpr. Snob

-Bill

 

[duncan]

Here are some other fine weapons:

Lorcin 9mm

Bryco .380

Raven .25 acp

Let's go shooting guys!

 

[JohnKSa]

Hi-Point C-9, 9mm 25 ozs.
Glock 17, 9mm 25 ozs
Ruger P-345, 9mm 29 ozs.

Hi-Point 45 32 ozs.
Springfield Arms GI 45. (all steel) 38 ozs.
Ruger 90, 45 34 ozs.
Glock 21 45 29.5 ozs.

In the first case, you're comparing full size, hi-cap 9mms to the compact 9 round version of the Hi-Point.

You're also assuming that the Hi-Point weight includes an unloaded magazine and therefore are comparing the straight weight of the Hi-Point off the mks website with weights for the other pistols that include the magazine weight.

Finally, the Glock weights are not correct.

You also neglected to mention that you used the weight for the 14 round hi-cap version of the Springfield GI .45, the weight of the standard model .45 is 36 ounces. Besides comparing an all steel gun to a polymer frame gun isn't exactly straight up.

The Glock 17 (18 round full-size 9mm) weighs 22 ounces, 24 ounces with an empty magazine.

The Glock 21 (16 round full size .45) weighs 25 ounces, 27 ounces with an empty magazine.

There is no such thing as a Ruger P345 in 9mm.

The other Ruger guns you list are all full size guns with alloy frames, so naturally they're going to weigh a bit more than polymer frame guns.

Here's a more correct list just comparing polymer to polymer.

Hi-Point C-9 (9 rnd compact 9mm) 25 oz (without magazine?)
Glock 17 (18 rnd fullsize 9mm) 22 oz, 24 oz with magazine

Hi-Point .45 (10 rnd .45) 32 oz (without magazine?)
Glock 21 (16 rnd .45) 25 oz, 27 oz with magazine

 

[Majic]

Bill,
The thing with snobs is that at the range when nothing has malfunctioned and your targets have holes in them just like theirs then it's really nothing they can say then except how much less money is in their pockets.

 

[Olys45]

Looking through the box, I didn't see a warrenty card but I find a Ghost Ring sight. Is it worthwhile to install this?

It just seems odd for this type of sight to be on a pistol.

-Bill

I have one of the 9mm's and I briefly had the GR installed for about 4 magazines worth of shooting and then switched back to the regular sights.

Other than that mine has not had a hiccup in the couple of boxed that I ran through it.

 

[MCgunner]

I haven't fired a Hi Point, so I can't pass judgement. The only thing I DO know is, that's one butt ugly gun! But, if it offeres a reliable firearm for little money, who the heck can argue with THAT??????

I'll stick with my Rugers. Some say they're ugly, too, but I like 'em. At least these guns work. I just got off the 1911 gripe thread...

 

[trueblue1776]

Hipoint has one weakness and it is not reliable function, it's the field strip.

 

[MCgunner]

Hipoint has one weakness and it is not reliable function, it's the field strip.

Hey, if you can't clean it, at that price, just toss it and buy a new one.

Seriously, I've stripped a Ruger Mark II. I mean, how hard could it be? I've got a fully equipped shop complete with hammers and punches. Probably all it takes, right? I don't make a habit of pulling my guns apart in public, after all.

I do prefer an easy gun to take down, though. And, I prefer a gun that's a little prettier. But, hey, for that price, who's griping? They don't seem to have a compact .45 or I might try one. I don't think a compact .45 is very possible in a blow back, though. I've got a big .45, a compact and full size nine, a .380 and I don't care much for .40. So, if I bought a high point, it'd be the carbine. But, then, I've got a couple of SKSs and 7.62x39 is cheap! So's 9mm and if I got a carbine, it'd be a nine. It'd be a plinker. What else is a 9mm carbine good for, but plinking?

 

[whm1974]

The thing with snobs is that at the range when nothing has malfunctioned and your targets have holes in them just like theirs then it's really nothing they can say then except how much less money is in their pockets.

It seems funny that $1000+ 1911's have problems but under $200 Hi-Points don't. However illregaless of the price paid, ALL handguns should work out of the box.

Hipoint has one weakness and it is not reliable function, it's the field strip.

It seems that most people found a way around that...

Seriously, I've stripped a Ruger Mark II. I mean, how hard could it be?

Hi-Point should really come out with a .22

-Bill

 

[duncan]

I haven't fired a Hi Point, so I can't pass judgement. The only thing I DO know is, that's one butt ugly gun! But, if it offeres a reliable firearm for little money, who the heck can argue with THAT??????

I'll stick with my Rugers. Some say they're ugly, too, but I like 'em. At least these guns work. I just got off the 1911 gripe thread...

All I know is that old gunsmiths in their 60s and 70s don't like any of the above guns and refuse to work on them. Respected gun dealers won't even sully their shelves with those guns. Only for gunshows.

BTW - Rugers are nice shooters.

Kel Tec is as affordable as I go. You can buy quality guns used.

I'd rather have a nice used older Volkswagen than a new Kia. Same with guns.

 

[Ala Dan]

(Laughing Loudly)

 

[Javelin Man]

ghost ring

I considered putting the ghost ring rear sight on my Hi-Point .45, but the next time I shot with standard sights, I hit the bulls eye at 25 yards and three more shots within a couple inches. I figured the ghost ring wouldn't help me.

Perhaps they were just four lucky shots. I'll try again when it warms up and my hand is operated on. Non-shooting injuries, but the recoil really hurts the base of the thumb.

 

[whm1974]

Hey, anyone know where I can diffenct grips for Hi-Points?

-Bill