Dumbest gun rumor...

[christophera]

The local news always says that someone who was shot with an AR was shot with a "high powered rifle." That's why I don't like the local news, they dramatize every little damn thing to drum up viewers. Every chance I get I tell people that it's not high powered and that it's actually one of the least powerful rifle rounds.:banghead:

 

[Mr. Mysterious]

Back during the early part of the Vietnam war:

"The M16 does not need cleaned."

 

[Nalapombu]

The best one I ever heard was in my local gun shop. After me telling the owner and another guy looking about my experience at Knob Creek and seeing the MiniGun fire, the other customer chimed in with a story that topped mine.
He said that he was a Marine and that the gun used in the movie Predator was an actual Marine issue weapon to some of the specialized units. He said that he knew it was true because he had seen them being carried by Marines. Not a smile, not a laugh, he was as serious as he could be. I simply asked where they carried the car battery to power it. He told me he didn't know but he knew that they had it somewhere, but he really thought that it didn't need one.
I thought about trying to explain things to him to get him to see, but I figured that it would be useless so I kept my mouth shut and laughed all the way home.
Now he has provided me a gift that I can pass on and on...

Nala

 

[Rebeldon]

There are a lot a myths circulated about AKs, especially by Vietnam vets.

I've heard Vietnam vets say that the AK was accurate up to a 1000-yards.

I've also heard Vietnam vets say that the VC could use their .308 ammunition in their AKs. Recently, I was in a hotel bar in Ft. Lauderdale (yes, I'm straight) and a vet told me that he was shot in the leg by a VC sniper using a .308 cartridge in an AK. I told him that an AK could not even chamber the 7.62X51mm NATO cartridge, but he insisted theirs (the VC) could. I told him that the VC were probably firing a Draganov sniper rifle with the 7.62X54mm cartridge, which looks very much like the .308 Win. He got a little pissed at me. That was probably is story for thirty years and I just ruined it. He asked, "Were you in 'Nam? Were you shot in the leg?" I've had this sort of reaction before arguing with 'Nam vets about their legendary AK myths.

 

[Carbon_15]

That the 5.56 is an effective round....J/K

A few years ago I worked security part time at a local mall during the Christmas season to make some extra cash. On of the full-time mall ninjas was showing off his weapon...a beat up police trade in S&W 65. He was telling me about the special-police only grips (pachymir SP?) and the extra special police-only rounds he had for it. He swung open the cylinder hollywood style and handed me one of the super-duper bullets...Frigging Wadcutters. I didn't know if I should tell him or not that those were very light loaded target bullets. I decided to leave him with his dillusions.

 

[Mr. Mysterious]

the extra special police-only rounds he had for it. He swung open the cylinder hollywood style and handed me one of the super-duper bullets...Frigging Wadcutters. I didn't know if I should tell him or not theat those were very light loaded target bullets. I decided to leave him with his dillusions.

Boy the gun shop owners love when this guy walks in.

Guy walks in...

Owner: Hey how you doing Bob?
Guy: Fine, have anything new in?
Owner: Have something special just for you...(owner goes back into the office and comes back with a Romanian AK)
Guy: Wow, whats that?
Owner: This is a gin-you-ine Russian AK-47, had to get these on the black market because you can't buy these anymore. And look at this (points to the case of surplus 1970's ammo) I have the special armor piercing anti-tank rounds for it.
Guy: Wow, how much?
Owner: Well...I need to sell this 'cuz the Feds are inspecting me tomorrow so I'll let it go for $999...and I'll throw in 2 30rd magazines. And the ammo...I'll let you have it for $500.
Guy: Wow...I'll take it!

 

[Missouri Mule]

the Gov model 45 kicks like a mule!!!!

 

[bpisler]

Security guard at the local wrecking yard told me his sigma was a "police only" model because it doesn't have a manual safety.All hand guns made for the general public must have a manual safety,it's part of the brady bill.He carries it so he doesn't beat up his $1,000 glock 19

 

[Lobotomy Boy]

Email me that security guard's contact information. I have a $2,500 Italian Mossberg 500 he might be interested in buying.

 

[Greybeard]

Not necessarily a myth, just a pretty stupid remark around the range. From a (male) Dallas cop no less. "If you put a condom over barrel, it will muffle the sound so that no one else can hear it." And the sharp-witted lady's reply: "I don't have a CLUE what you are talking about. I'm a virgin."

 

[Archie]

Greybeard

The guy told me the condom on the muzzle was to prevent hearing aids!

 

[BamBam-31]

Grooaaann....

 

[happyguy]

Plastic bullets will go through bullet resistant glass.

Regards,
Happyguy

 

[Logan5]

I'm not sure what to make of this one... but I had a US Attorney tell me that guns and brass never have fingerprints, and if I asked investigating FBI agents to fingerprint a weapon/ammo in an investigation they'd think I was an idiot wasting their time.

 

[sigman4rt]

Anonvmous politically appointed LEO "These are the weapon of chioce on the street, we have got to get these guns off the street." The last time I knew a street had NEVER hurt anyone with a firearm! BTW --- You could fire the russian AK-47 round(762x39) in an M-14 (762x51). It would load, chamber and fire. The difference was in the OAL of the round. The russian round (762x39) was shorter so the bullet would have a big jump to the bore and would not be overly accurate, that said, it would work. Why you would want to is, I guess, a question of semantics. If the russian ammo was available it would seem that there should be a russian rifle attached to it.

 

[Moparmike]

I've heard Vietnam vets say that the AK was accurate up to a 1000-yards.

Well, my RomAK has leaf sights up to 1000yds, and I am quite sure that I could hit Mt. Everest at 1000yds. Dont tell me that it aint accurate.

 

[Zebulon]

I heard many years ago, that I was finished buying guns....... ...That trumps everything thats been stated so far......Zeb

 

[wabgunojeehns]

A guy I know told me he shot an Ak with a 1000 round mag!!

 

[Marshall]

I heard this once: " A high Point is a fine looking handgun"


So is a three toed tree slueth to it's momma.

 

[BluesBear]

So there I was, out shopping with a friend who is looking for either a Lightweight Colt Officers ACP or a Colt Defender. I take her to my closest shop.
They have a case full of Kimbers (all of my local shops have an overabundance of Kimbers) and he's trying to push one on her.
She says she has always prefered Colts. She said she didn't care for all og the MIM parts in a Kimber. he said that "Kimber doesn't use any MIM parts, all of their parts are made in the USA."

We were then told that "Colt is Chapter 13 again and hasn't made a single gun in over a year." This is because "Firearms are only 10% of Colt Industries and that 10% is causing the other 90% to operate at a loss and the stockholders have insisting that they stop making guns."

This one salesman has been saying this exact same thing for almost two years now. Of course he's the same one that will hand you a semi-auto pistol with the magazine in it without checking the chamber and then look at you like you're stupid if you do it.

I should have known better but i inquired if they had gotten in any of the new Speer .41 magnum ammo. I was then told that no one shoots .41 magnum anymore and that Speer has never made .41 magnum ammunition.

Yes this is the same salesman who told, three months ago, me that S&W Model 53 (.22 Jet) revolver was never sold with a .22 Long Rifle cylinder. He didn't seem to understand what that big square hole in the tray of the Blue Factory Box, right above the inserts, was for.

 

[JShirley]

sigman4rt:

(From Reload Bench.com)

http://www.reloadbench.com/cart/mf629opkth/124.jpg
This is a diagram of the external dimensions of a 7.62x51mm round (.308 Win).

http://www.reloadbench.com/cart/mf629opkth/309.jpg
This is a diagram of the 7.62x39. Note the difference in the case sizes- not just lengths, but widths.

In short, sir, if you wanted to attempt to fire the Russian round from a .308, I would love to watch...from a safe distance.

John

(edited to decrease bandwidth on The Reload Bench)

 

[Mr. Mysterious]

JShirley, thanks for that great link!

 

[Curley]

When I was a kid, in the midst of the Vietnam war, someone told me that bullets fired from M-16s tumbled end over end, rather than spinning nose forward like a spiraling football. Even as a kid, I wondered how that tumbling would affect the M-16's accuracy.

This isn't a rumor, but a true story: As a crime reporter for a newspaper, I once went out to the scene of a shooting. The victim had been shot point-blank in the chest and abdomen with five rounds from a .25 auto.

When I got there, the victim walked out of his house and got into the ambulance. He was in obvious pain, but the five .25-cal wounds obviously didn't incapacitate him. I realized than that the .25 was pretty much worthless unless you're fending off angry rabbits or hamsters.

 

[entropy]

.25 auto

There are a lot of people who would tell you otherwise, if they were only alive to tell you! IIRC, a DoJ study showed that .25 autos accounted for a comparatively high share of homocides because of the price point on them. Just like the 9mm, shot placement is key. I wouldn't want to get hit COM and head with it!
OT, when I worked in a gunshop, we had a Baby Browning that was a case queen. I had a recurring dream that some gangbanger would come in, ask to look at it, shove his own loaded mag into it, and empty it into my gut. I then proceed to grab an 870 off the shelf, beat the snot out of him with it, then shove the buck round in my pocket in the chamber, and hold him until our cop-in-training, Dave came over, covered the guy as I pass out from shock! Glad it was just a dream! The pucker factor went up everytime gangbangers and wannabes came in the store, though!

 

[Archie]

Half credit here...

...IIRC, a DoJ study showed that .25 autos accounted for a comparatively high share of homocides...

However, if one checks the autopsy cause of death findings, many of the fatalities are from infection or gangrene.
What happens is the victim (shootee? some of these people don't qualify as a victim in my book) gets shot and doesn't die immediately. Because of "manliness" standards, or fear of discovery by the police, they don't go to an emergency room. They try to tough it out on aspirin and bandaids, which works until the infection takes hold.

This applies to most of the smaller rounds, 22lr, 25 ACP, 32 ACP and the round nosed versions of .38 Special and 9x19. It has probably happened with the "major" (popular sense, not IPSC standards) calibers, too. But usually, a hit with a "major" caliber will damage someone enough to where someone calls an ambulance and the shootee gets hauled off to the ER.

Unless the round makes an instant kill, the small calibers are not effective for rendering an assailant incapable of further danger. I personally think it's the long shot. Pun intended.