Dumbest thing you've seen at the range?

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"Is it the fault of the student, or the teacher?"
AMEN! (Not casting stones at anyone, either.)

No new shooter should ever have the chance to make such a large scale mistake as to break muzzle discipline and sweep anyone with a loaded gun. Good instruction is practically a contact sport, at least in the first stages. Shooting involves a set of new skills AND a very serious set of new responsibilities that take serious practice and concentration to build. Giving someone a loaded firearm and expecting them not to do something dangerous just because it should be "common sense" is unfairly setting them up to fail.

The teacher bears an enormous responsibility when he/she assumes that role.

-Sam
 
I dropped by the indoor range and the instructor on site asked me to assist with coaching the live fire portion of the class. Distinguished looking gentleman was my charge. He had a nice custom 1911 that was very tight. He had owned it for years but had shot only a few rounds. He had a problem, tried to rack the slide by turning the gun in his hand to get leverage with an over the top of the slide grip with his left hand. In doing so, he pointed the pistol directly at me. I corrected his procedure, explained about muzzle down range, and demonstrated the slingshot technique. He was not receptive to constructive criticism. During the next live fire round, the slide did not go completely into battery. Which he corrected by smacking the rear of the slide with his left hand. I told him this was the right way to deal with that particular malfunction, but he MUST TAKE HIS TRIGGER FINGER OUT OF THE TRIGGER GUARD when doing so. You guessed it. On the next failure to feed, he put a 230 grain FMJ through the roof of the range in the general direction of downtown Cheyenne.
 
full range... guy climbs under the barrier and starts walking downrange (cause his target machine stopped functioning)

RO called COLD RANGE got everyone out of the range and started yelling at the guy...

guy replied angrily "WHAT THE F... I WAS STAYING IN MY LANE"
 
Not exactly range related, but...

About 0400hrs this morning, lights swept my downstairs bedroom. Now, I live out in the middle of nowhere, by myself, so headlights from a car are a rarity, and I am an extremely light sleeper. So I get out of bed, pull on my jeans, boots, and shirt, then slip my Glock 31 into the FBI cant holster that is always on my belt before throwing a loose jacket on. I head out the side door, and see a 4-door truck parked about 100yds down my dirt access road that bisects my property. I head over to the truck, but don't see anyone, so I turn and start down the road. About 75yds in front of me is a hunter, in blaze orange, walking down the road with a rifle in his hands. I come up behind him and ask him what exactly he thinks he's doing on my land, and apparantly I surprised him because he turns around very quickly, sweeping me with the muzzle of his rifle, and replies that he's using the access road to get to the public woods that border the back of my property. I, very calmly, ask to see his rifle, which he hands to me. I'm fairly certain it was a Winchester 94, and the hammer was cocked. As I cycle the action, a live round flies out, and completely destroys my calmness. I very tersly explain that the woods he was so bent upon reaching were about 1.5k from where he currently was, and not only was he trespassing, but he was bringing a loaded gun onto my land without my permission, all while I unloaded his rifle. Handing him the unloaded rifle and rounds, I informed him that I would escort him back to his vehicle. At this point, the older man tried to protest (he was about 25-30 years my senior) saying he was just trying to get a little hunting in. I told him that due to his lack of safe gun handling evidenced by him not only sweeping me with a "hot" weapon, but also planning on hiking 1.5k to the woods with that same "hot" weapon that I did not want him hunting anywhere near me, nor using my property as a means to assist his unsafe practices. I also informed him that I was very friendly with the local Sheriff, and would gladly keep the hunter company until the Sheriff could arrive to sort the matter out. (my hand was visibly resting on the butt of my Glock) Mr. Hunter (wisely) decided my escorting him off the property might not be so bad after all, and he left without further incident.

Funny enough, if he had come to me any day during the month proceeding hunting season, I would have had no problem allowing him to use the access road...just don't like people thinking that simply because it's there, they can use it...
 
Shadow man-
Interesting story.

access road

Could you define that term for me please? Is this a private road terminating within the bounds of your property, or a public road which bisects your property? My family has about 150 acres with a private gravel road which we refer to as "the driveway". Our "driveway" even has a street sign on it now due to some law that's supposed to help out emergency vehicles in rural areas, but it is still a private road. I probably would have done the same as you had somebody pulled that on our "driveway". On a public road that happens to bisect our property? Not so much. Is your "access road" the equivalent of our "driveway"? Sorry, I've just never heard the term used like that, so it could just be a regional thing. Thanks.
 
I do believe it may be a regional thing: my "access road" is an old farm road that bisects my property, and then fades into a 4x4 trail in the state forest. It IS a private road for all intensive purposes, however the local law enforcement, park rangers, etc have my full permission to use it in event of an emergency. However, it is closed to public use. So yes, I guess you could say it is equivalent of your driveway, sans the streetsign. No apology necessary, glad to help calrify things.
 
The last time i went to a public range there were two guys who were trying to shoot skeet with a .22 rifle on a pistols only range. the bad thing is, they couldnt hit stationary targets.
 
Every time I see a story like this involving a new shooter I ask myself. "Is it the fault of the student, or the teacher?" I firmly believe that the majority of these new shooter incidents could be avoided with better instruction, and/or more attentive teachers. Granted some people are just not teachable, and that may have been the case with some or all of these stories. I don't know if I am just lucky, but I been shooting with at least 8 new shooters and none were so bad that I would not shoot with them again.

Way to ASSume. I told her 50 times, ALWAYS point it downrange whether you think it is loaded or not.
 
That's a good story, Texpartiate.

No glasses or hearing protection for kids at a range?

That's not only stupid, it's likely child endangerment in some states.
 
Way to ASSume. I told her 50 times, ALWAYS point it downrange whether you think it is loaded or not.

Way to read my entire post before responding. As I stated "Granted some people are just not teachable, and that may have been the case with some or all of these stories." In other words I do not know who was at fault in any of these stories as I was not there.
 
Coyote3855 said: .......he pointed the pistol directly at me. I corrected his procedure, explained about muzzle down range, and demonstrated the slingshot technique. He was not receptive to constructive criticism.

That would have been the end of his shooting trip if I had been there. I dislike a firearm pointed at me, I become irate when a loaded firearm is pointed at me and I am absolutely intolerant of anyone who cannot be corrected.

...... Have the wife stand next to the target at the 100 yard line and spot for him with her finger!......

I saw something similar but it was a 243 at 200 yards, two brothers.

I had two off duty female police officers drive their cop car onto the range halfway between me and the targets, unload their stuff and begin setting up. When I attempted to explain that they had to shoot from where I was positioned I was offered a trip to jail. I went back and started packing up my stuff just as the range officer appeared and began chewing my butt for handling guns behind them. I explained to him and he attempted to explain to them and got the same offer. He gave them a trespass warning and they laughed at him. So he called......the cops. They were arrested for trespass while armed, a felony in Florida. They both lost their jobs and had to plead to simple trespass.:D
 
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Not the dumbest thing but the most recent act of stupidity to piss me off...

Was at the range today sighting in one of my 1903A3's, just restored it's original stock. Two benches over two guys are shooting some model of AR. No biggee, brass isn't hitting me so all is good. Then I hear something diferrent going off and brass starts raining down all around me. I look, now they're shooting an AK. So now I'm getting annoyed at their empties bouncing all around my shooting position, and then I commence to get real perturbed when I catch some hot brass with my face :cuss: So I bench my rifle, walk over and ask 'em if they'd mind using the nets the range has 'cause I'm gettin real tired of their brass hittin me.
 
I do believe it may be a regional thing: my "access road" is an old farm road that bisects my property, and then fades into a 4x4 trail in the state forest. It IS a private road for all intensive purposes, however the local law enforcement, park rangers, etc have my full permission to use it in event of an emergency. However, it is closed to public use. So yes, I guess you could say it is equivalent of your driveway, sans the streetsign. No apology necessary, glad to help calrify things.

You may want to do a little research just to make sure the old farm road isn't covered as a public right-of-way under some 100 year old easement or land grant. Little misunderstandings like that could really bite you in the ass if you are stopping people from using the road.

I don't know what part of the country you are in, but we have quite a few dirt and gravel roads that only have one house on them, but are part of the public right of way.
 
I checked with the county when I moved in, and it is on record as my private road. That's part of the reason I moved out there, the place was family owned for something like 50+ years before I got to it. There's no one around, and it's so far off the beaten track, you have to intend upon coming out there to show up near my place.

Mr. Hunter is also the first person I've had to deal with using my road un-announced. Occasionally I'll get teenagers on four-wheelers and dirt bikes coming out of the state forest, but since I don't want to get a reputation as "that guy" for chasing off kids, and they're infrequent enough, I really don't mind. It's a small town, we're all pretty friendly. Just some pesky out-of-towners who generally show up around hunting season.
 
Maybe not dumb but more of a stupid accident

I worked a case recently that began in an indoor range. A man was shooting some really high powered handloads through a .44 S&W with a four inch barrel.

A retired police Lt was standing behind the shooting line talking with friends while watching the shooters.

The person shooting the .44 mag fired a round and it bounced off the bullet trap and came back to the shooting line where it struck the retired cop right between the eyes. He was carried off by ambulance and lived but he now has a large scar where the bullet struck him. The doctors say he will always have severe headaches from the injury sustained to the frontal lobe of the brain in closed head wound.

Shooting from the firing line has it's risks but they are an acceptable risk. Standing behind shooters while visiting with friends is stupid since they would be safer in the viewing area on the other side of the glass and it would be a lot quieter.
 
I went to one of my shooting buddy's ranges the other day and a group of guys showed up in a blinged out SUV of some sort. They came in loaded down with five or six range bags and began to unload a couple dozen firearms on one of the tables: rifles, shotguns, pistols. It didn't take long for my friend and I to peg these chuckleheads for what they were. These guys got settled and started shooting, rapid fire, hip firing, taking pictures and not hitting a damn thing. By the time they were done there was a lot of seriously dug up earth and some mangled target frames. They must have gone through a couple grand in ammo and barely hit anything, not that they would know because they only put out three targets and shot at them for a couple hours without bothering to inspect them once. I took a loot at their gun collection out of curiosity and even saw an XD with a bayonet. My friend whose range it was had never seen them before and will likely never see them again, they were definitely not shooters and probably only showed up to the range once a year...if that.
 
I frequent Red's Gun Range in Pflugerville, Texas and I always wonder why there are so many bullet holes in the ceiling 2 feet from the shooting tables... Almost directly above them... Also... Why are there so many ricochet dents on the shooting tables themselves?? Kinda scary when you think about it.
 
I had a bunch of crybabies at the range last time I was out whining about my stance being "improper" and that I was doing some sideways shooting for giggles now and then and it was "childish" and the fact that my gun shoots lead out like a cannon after every shot... Despite the fact that they came in after me and took the lane directly to my right with nobody else around.
 
my stance being "improper" and that I was doing some sideways shooting for giggles now and then


Whoops, wrong thread. It's not "Dumberst things you've DONE at the range!"

;)

-Sam
 
Here's a clueboat for you: Enjoying yourself isn't dumb when it hurts nobody. Getting enraged over someone else having harmless fun? That's as retarded as it gets.
 
Here's a clueboat for you

Ooooh! Cool! A clueboat! I've always wanted one of those! Is that better for clue fishing or clue skiing? Oh, or maybe clue sailing? Suhweet!

Getting enraged over anything that isn't a safety issue is pointless.

But, then again, blastin' wit' yo' nine wit' da gangsta' cant is pointless, too, so I'd say you came out even on the deal. When you "act 'da fool" you gotta expect others to join you in "fool land" ... :D

and the fact that my gun shoots lead out like a cannon after every shot
Just out of curiosity, what does that mean? You're shooting a revolver and it spits lead from the barrel/cylindar gap? That's the kind of thing someone SHOULD tell you right away as it's a dangerous condition.

-Sam
 
My guns all shoot out lead like cannons...that is, a solid projectile moving out of the bore and down range very, very quickly...

Other than size, there is really not a terribly big difference between artillery, or "cannon", and shoulder-fired weapons. Now that I've said that though, I'll probably get flamed by some former cannon-cocker who took offense :D
 
I checked with the county when I moved in, and it is on record as my private road. That's part of the reason I moved out there, the place was family owned for something like 50+ years before I got to it. There's no one around, and it's so far off the beaten track, you have to intend upon coming out there to show up near my place.

Well get yourself a Garand and start practicing Clint Eastwood quotes :D
 
What movie did Eastwood carry a Garand in, and how did he ever fire it one handed from horseback? (sorry, not a big movie watcher) Although if I had a gravely voice like that...the things I could say that would sound so awesome!
 
Grand Torino was the movie. The quote was "Get off my lawn". But I also liked when the gang banger on the lawn tells Clint Eastwoods character to go back inside his house and go to bed and Clint replied (while pointing the M1 Garand and the other guys head) "How about I blow a hole through your face, then I go back inside and go to bed and sleep like a baby"

Sorry for the thread hijack, I have seen too may dumb things at shooting ranges to pick just one.
 
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