Forget the Republicans.

[Titan6]

If all the repubs have left in the clip is gay marriage we can expect to have 100% Democrat government by this time in '09.

 

[pdowg881]

Marshall:What does that have to do with the subject of making laws concerning gay marriage?

It means that because I said I believe it isn't the govts business they should not make any laws about it one way or the other. Same for the state level.

 

[brerrabbit]

A true conservative standpoint is that it is none of the governments business who marries who. A christian conservatives viewpoint is that it is against god and society and must be prevented. A neocon will outlaw it do it to get votes or try to funnel money to cronies.

Lifelong conservative republican, newly conservative independant. While the republicans cannot win without the neocons and christian conservatives, the republicans also cannot win without the conservatives.

If the republicans don't like the score? Then they should have represented me and the party ideals.

I am not going to get into voting for the lesser evil anymore. No matter what, candidates from the major parties are all lizards.

I didnt leave my party, my party left me.

 

[MarshallDodge]

This whole thing with abortion, gun control, and gay marriage is a smoke screen for inept government. The government doesn't really care about any of it anymore. It's about big business and who puts more money in their pocket.

I have no idea what the Republicans are trying to do right now but I don't think I want to see what the Democrats are gonna do.

What is the ratio of Democrat anti-gun bills compared to Republican?

 

[gravel]

Lets visit the Brits and see how safe they are at home. My cousin lives there and says it's crazy when only the lawless are armed. Anti-gun politician whom ever should be run off like a turpentined dog. Thank you.

 

[brerrabbit]

Gravel

But the problem is not the anti gun standpoint, if in doubt, take a look at how much antigun legislation was introduced and passed during republican controlled congresses.

While the Democrats may not be our friends in this matter, neither are the republicans. Voting for the party that least disrespects you and liberty in general is not the right answer.

 

[scout26]

Yep, the Republicans are doomed, since Bush has only slightly higher approval ratings then the democratically controlled Congress........ It's a long time 'til the election folks way to many things can happen between now and then. Remember that just before the '04 Iowa caucases the media had already annointed Howard Dean as the next POTUS.....How did that work out for him ??????

 

[nobody_special]

I will definitely agree with you on REAL ID, and on parts of the Patriot Act, but the rest is exactly part of what I would consider a traditional conservative. You will have to go a long way to convince me that a lot of what you call "Christian fundamentalist interest" would not have traditionally been considered conservative thought. I know that you disagree with a lot of it, but that doesn't mean that it isn't traditional conservative.

Traditional conservatives would support civil liberties. AFAIK, the only Republican candidate (including Thompson) who supports civil liberty is Ron Paul.

The Christian fundamentalists want to legislate moral issues: gay marriage, abortion, stuff like that. Such legislation restricts on civil liberties, and a true conservative would not support it (consider the history of the "separation of church and state"). Religion has no place in government.

And perhaps abortion shouldn't be a federal issue. "Gay marriage" is a federal issue though, since there are federal tax consequences to marriage. The "full faith and credit" clause would certainly apply as well. Brerrabbit is right in that a true conservative wouldn't give some couples more rights than others.

I mean, come on... the flag desecration amendment almost passed the Senate vote last year... and it needed a 2/3 majority. So about 66% of our Senators think it's more important to restrict a 1st amendment right than to deal with, oh, I don't know... real problems such as the war or budget deficit? It's insane... a significant majority of our elected representatives voted to pass an amendment which is fundamentally at odds with the entire idea of the 1st amendment. These sorts of things are considered important issues?!?!?

The Republicans are probably going to lose the presidency in '08, just like they lost Congress last year. And for good reason -- the Republican congress almost universally supported the president's inept and unlawful practices. The Democrats will have control for as long as they can keep it; most likely until they screw up badly enough that people clamor for a change again (which likely won't take long).

 

[Flyboy]

I do not understand how a person can vote for one guy in an election, and then in the next election vote for someone with exactly the opposite values.

Probably the same way he can vote for one guy in an election, watch him do pretty much the opposite of the values he talked so much about, and then vote for him again because of his so-called "values." You know, values like smaller government. Things the Republican party seems to babble about on a regular basis, and then throws in the trash as soon as it wields power.

 

[nemoaz]

Luckily, this is a poll is not of likely voters. Since most Democrat supporters are too lazy to vote, this sort of poll always favors the Democrats.

 

[Waitone]

As long as the Democrat-republican paradigm constrains our thinking, we are so screwed. The proper paradigm is them-us. Nowhere is it more visible than in the current debate over illegal immigration and what to do about it. Maintain the Democrat-republican approach and we will continually be plagued with the likes of Clinton and Bush.

 

[cbsbyte]

Since most Democrat supporters are too lazy to vote, this sort of poll always favors the Democrats.

Do you have any proof of this or are you just stating something you want to be true? Democrat voters are usually the ones that make it to the polls. In the Next election they will probably be more Dems at the polls than Republicans.