CNN Poll: It'll be Hillary Clinton v. Rudy Giuliani in 2008

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Poll: Clinton v. Giuliani in 2008

Wow. What a clear choice this would be. Really evil man vs. really, really evil woman. I sure hope this comes to fruition, I can't think of anything better to get a third party a LOT of votes.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/12/15/presidential.poll/index.html

If the results of a recent poll pan out, voters will see two big names from the Big Apple on the ballot in November 2008.

Those names are Sen. Hillary Clinton, a Democrat, and former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, a Republican.

The CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll released Thursday indicated Clinton and Giuliani were the early favorites to win their respective party's nomination.

But those polled said they believe the former first lady would have a smoother path to the nomination than her GOP counterpart.

Conducted December 9-11, the telephone poll asked 393 registered voters who described themselves as Republicans and 446 registered voters who described themselves as Democrats who they were most likely to support in their respective primaries.

The survey had a sampling error of plus or minus 5 percentage points.

Clinton snared the majority of the Democratic voters polled. And with more than two years before the primaries, she was ahead of her two nearest potential competitors by nearly 30 percentage points.

Giuliani, on the other hand, edged out Sen. John McCain of Arizona by only 8 percentage points, 30-22.

Another 18 percent of those polled selected Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, despite her repeated assertion that she has no plans to run.

Bringing up the rear on the GOP side were Sen. George Allen, of Virginia, 7 percent; Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist of Tennessee, 3 percent; Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, 3 percent; and Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour, 2 percent.

The remaining 15 percent of Republicans polled said they would support someone else.

Clinton was the favorite of 43 percent of the Democrats polled. Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts and Sen. John Edwards of North Carolina -- the party's candidates in 2004 -- each had 14 percent.

Eight percent of the Democrats polled selected Sen. Joe Biden of Delaware; 3 percent chose Virginia Gov. Mark Warner; another 3 percent picked New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson; 1 percent opted for Sen. Evan Bayh of Indiana; and 1 percent favored Iowa Gov. Tom Vilsack.

The remaining 13 percent of Democrats polled said they would support another candidate.

The 2008 presidential race could be the most wide-open contest in more than five decades.

With President Bush unable to seek another term and Vice President Dick Cheney insisting he won't succeed him, the table is set for the first race since 1952 in which neither a sitting president nor a vice president is on the ballot.

In that race, Republican Dwight Eisenhower defeated Democrat Adlai Stevenson by a landslide electoral vote of 442 to 89.
 
brace for another "assault weapon ban"

after all, it's for the children
 
Sick.

All I remember about 9/11/2001 is Guiliani smiling and congratulating himself and his cronies regarding their tireless efforts and tremendous response. :barf: :barf:
 
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Scary, scary stuff. Can't we do better than this?
rick_reno, BTW I love your sarcasm. I'm not sure everyone gets it but it makes me laugh. Between the "Jorge" and the "greatest leader of our time" my stomach is hurting. Keep up the good fight.
 
If this situation really comes to pass, it will be one of the few examples I can think of where putting guns on credit makes sense.
 
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I'm not going to worry TO much about it...the election is still a ways away and they haven't even started actual campaigning (stunts to keep them visible don't count). Once that starts, everything can change in a heartbeat.

Of course, with my luck, I'll have money for an AR-15 a week AFTER they are made illegal:uhoh:

Tom
 
What a joke that election would be. If that is what the ballet looks like we are in for a rocky road. People who whine about how bad Bush is will really get a taste of reality.
 
hmmmmmmmmmm.....................:mad:

If only, if only GWB and the others Pubs had taken full advantage of being winners.
 
We are a long way from the next presidential election. Relax. Lots can happen. Let Hillary run or be the Democratic nominee. It would make an interesting political race. Pay attention to those in the 3-5% range now. People barely know their names.
 
Those two are practically kissing cousins in terms of their politics. We are getting to be like the old Soviet Union in terms of our "choices" for candidates. Though, if those two run against in other in the two major parties, that would probably result in the largest ever, or at least since Lincoln, vote for so called "third parties."
 
I am so glad I ate before I read that....gave me something to puke up. I hate the dry heaves, don't you?:barf:
What do we have to do to get Condi to run?
 
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I am so glad I ate before I read that....gave me something to puke up. I hate the dry heaves, don't you?:barf:
What do we have to do to get Condi to run?

Condi? The one who said that the agency she was responsible for at the time "couldn't have envisioned" something like 9/11?

Funny, I thought that was her JOB. And the fact that there were plenty of warnings, the excuse that she didn't get the memo doesn't cut it when you're talking about the loss of over 3000 people and the loss of highly symbolic American landmarks.

No. We need someone competent. I say third party.
 
As someone who leans Democratic...I'm dreading a Hillary run, and not just because I'm a gun owner. She's a polarizing figure that will trigger a far right wing backlash, and even worse, if she wins, it will mean either a Bush or a Clinton has been in office every year from 1988 to 2012. That's called DYNASTY, and it's not good for our system of government.
 
Guliani will never get the GOP nomination. He is pro-choice. It is just not going to happen because being pro-life is the litmus test for an acceptable GOP candidate, just like being pro-choice is a requirement for the Democrat nomination. No friends, a Clinton v. Guliani race will not happen. I predict GOP squabbling over things (like abortion) will result in a less than stellar candidate who will get beaten by Hillary......now if they nominate Condi....that is another story
BSR
 
The Republican nominee will surely be McCain or Giuliani. Personally, I think they will pair them up as President and Vice President, respectively.

In either case, while everyone is willing to trash McCain and Giuliani now, rest assured that when the election nears, and the Republicans are faced with McCain/Giuliani versus Hillary, they will turn out in droves to vote for their candidate. They will chastise anyone who doesn't, or votes third party, as wasting their vote.

It will be the same old thing...

"If you vote for a third party, you might as well vote for Hillary"...

"This election is just too important to vote for a third party"...

"Vote for McCain/Giuliani, they are the lesser of two evils"...

I predict the usual Republican lap dogs, both on this forum and in the media, will be much more shrill about 2008 than they were in 2004.
 
The Republican nominee will surely be McCain or Giuliani. Personally, I think they will pair them up as President and Vice President, respectively.

In either case, while everyone is willing to trash McCain and Giuliani now, rest assured that when the election nears, and the Republicans are faced with McCain/Giuliani versus Hillary, they will turn out in droves to vote for their candidate. They will chastise anyone who doesn't, or votes third party, as wasting their vote.

It will be the same old thing...

"If you vote for a third party, you might as well vote for Hillary"...

"This election is just too important to vote for a third party"...

"Vote for McCain/Giuliani, they are the lesser of two evils"...

I predict the usual Republican lap dogs, both on this forum and in the media, will be much more shrill about 2008 than they were in 2004.

I think you've said it all......:banghead:
 
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