Found a purpose for pistol caliber carbines....

[itgoesboom]

I have heard alot of people bashing the pistol caliber carbines that are made these days as being less than useless. However, I have found a use.

I have taken my wife shooting several times, and although she does ok with a pistol, I have doubts how she would do in a stressfull situation. She also doesn't like the recoil of most of my pistols, just the Ruger 22/45.

She also doesn't like the weight of my shotgun, not to mention that 12ga would kick too hard for her, even with reduced recoil loads, and I think that 20ga would as well.

She likes to shoot, but she doesn't enjoy going out to outdoor range when the weather isn't blue skies and 70 degrees, and well, we live in Oregon.

So I have been thinking. A carbine would be easier for her to use accuratly, especially in a stressfull situation. So at first I thought a AR would be the choice, except, ofcourse, we can't afford one, and since the indoor range only allows pistol calibers, I had to make another choice. Ofcourse, there are 9mm and .45 uppers for ARs, but we just can't afford one.

So I am thinking that the new breeds of 9mm carbines might be suitable. She would enjoy shooting it more because it hardly kicks, easier to get hits on, and can be used at the indoor range. My main goal is to get her to enjoy shooting more, hence the reason I bring out the 22/45 when we go to the range.

So just fun shooting would the #1 priority, with home protection being a secondary for when I am not home.

So even though the Marlin Camp 9/Ruger PC9/KelTec Sub 2000/Berretta Storm are not really true combat arms, but could do well in this situation. Easier to handle than a pistol, slightly more powerfull, and easier to practice with since they can be used at an indoor range.

Probably be a while till we get around to getting one, but atleast I have use for them.

I.G.B.

 

[Corey ACP]

I also found a use for the pistol caliber carbines several years ago. Almost by accident. At that time the agency I work for decided to allow a carbine for duty use, the Colt 9mm AR15 carbine. Desiring a long gun other than the 12 ga. I purchased one.

Man what a ball it is to shoot. Then when my kids began to develop an interest in shooting, the light Colt carbine was a natural. With the collapsible stock, 20 or 30 round mags, light weight, and any ammo, the Colt soon bacame a favorite of the entire family. Any cans, the plate rack, or the stray bowling pin, (my favorite), are no match for the 9mm.

Currently I use the AR in .223 for a duty rifle. I'll never part with the 9mm though, it is an all around great gun now augmented by a Marlin .44 mag. lever gun and a old style Ruger .44 mag. carbine.

 

[Nathanael_Greene]

How about a lever action in .357? My wife says my Marlin 1894C is "cute," high praise indeed.

 

[DMK]

I agree. As a matter of fact, you're in luck today because I have a cherry Marlin Camp 9 for sale in the Trader forum right now!

Seriously though, I've had a few women and children shoot my Camp 9. Every one has loved it. It's very accurate, handy, light and easy to shoot and operate. It's basically like a Marlin 60 .22 with a bigger bite. These things are really cool with a red dot.

 

[4v50 Gary]

Fun

that's purpose enough.

 

[106rr]

My wife has no interest in shooting.
I bought a Marlin 357 carbine, and I got my wife to shoot it with 38 Spec loads. I demonstrated the lack of recoil by firing with the butt held against my jaw and then against my groin. This convinced her that the recoil wouldn't hurt her.
She was able to shoot accurately at SD range. She was impressed by the impact on a gallon plactic jug of water. She sees the carbine as being "cute" and likes the fact that it can be out of sight in the truck or campsite but still available.
After almost a third of a century of marriage she is finally shooting. This is a remarkable event. The pistol caliber carbine has a terrific SD capability.


edited for spelling

 

[redneck2]

I'm getting...

a little 16 inch Rossi in .454. About the size and weight of an average .22 rimfire

You can shoot cowboy 45 LC loads and there's no recoil, or step up to full house .454 and take deer, bear, etc. Can't think of too many rounds that have that kind of flexibility

 

[Pumpkinheaver]

4v50 Gary I'm with you, the fun factor is definatly high shooting them.

 

[Bobarino]

purpose? since when does a gun need to have a purpose to justify purchasing it? i think all of our gunsafes would be much emptier if we all used that rational. buy 'em cuz you want 'em, or just for the heck of it. if they happen to serve a purpose, then its a double bonus for ya!

Bobby

 

[Kentucky Rifle]

Even with .357 mag loads my Marlin 1894C
has light recoil. I've never shot a .38 Special through it, so I don't know about that.

Will

 

[Lars]

Sportsmans warehouse in Clackamas has one of those new storm carbines on their shelves last time I looked.

Lars

 

[j.wise]

Several times I have considered buying the MagTech (is that right?) carbine conversion for the Glock/1911. I think it would be a fun addition to my collection.

The Storm costs nearly as much as the AR, so that might not be an option for you. The Camp 9 is nice, but I don't know how abundant the mags are for it. If you already have a 1911 or some other pistol that MagTech makes a conversion for, I think it would be just perfect for you. I believe they sell for about $250-300.

PS- I just finally got my wife to shoot rifles. She loves her P7, but was always scared of the high-power stuff. I finally convinced her the AR was a pussycat, and she proceeded to run that rifle dry (I barely got to shoot!) But you know, I didn't mind it one bit!

 

[Feanaro]

purpose? since when does a gun need to have a purpose to justify purchasing it?

Since some of our wallets are not very big and some people here have wives that want to know why, exactly, there are three M44s, two 91/30s and five Yugo SKS' in the safe?

I need to justify spending anywhere from one hundred to one thousand dollars to myself. Even if that means I need to invent a reason. My M48A is a cheap hunting rifle(and I really, really liked it when I picked it up). My SKS is my practice gun(and I really, really liked it when I picked it up). The G3 clone that will some day be added to my collection is for those really aggressive deer and SHTF. (And I really, really liked it when I tried one out)