I call BS on the 600K without a part breaking
Call bs all you want, there are documented cases of glocks running that long with only springs [ maintenance on any auto ] replaced. Chucky Taylor has one he has loaned to students that ran something like 200K without the first issue, then when a striker or some such was replaced, it ran another 300K with nothing but springs replaced.
Mine has over 60K in it with NOTHING replaced but springs [ maintenance ] and still is running 1K a day in students hands in classes just fine. Now that rd count would mean I would have had to rebuild two 1911's from the ground up. Parts like sears, triggers, hammers, extractors, etc just won't go the extra miles. How do I know? I've had two rebuilt, one after only 30 or so K and the other about 42K, both gave up the ghost and needed complete rebuilds or they were paper weights.
The competition shooters like Leatham get 50K through them before they need to be rebuilt. The US military got somewhere between 12-20K through them before they were taken back to the arsenals for rebuilds. Pretty well documented the 1911's won't stand the rds count like glocks, and to even suggest so shows once again you haven't a clue about the guns you are talking about, probably because you have not fired that many rds through either platform but choose to spout off about something you heard or read elsewhere.
You are right, I have a glock alter----it's called a holster
, they sit there and run every time I take them out and pull the trigger on them with NO issues, or faliures for tens of thousands of rounds in classes and individual training on the ranges.
Oh, btw-the 1911's that show up in class? Usually an issue somewhere during the 2K in two days the students fire in the courses. It's the RARE ocassion one goes that distance without lubrication issues, cleaning issues, or some other malf they need to get corrected. On the other hand, it's the RARE ocassion any glock malfs in the classes. Two different ends of the sprectrum, and the one that doesn't need lubrication every 300-500 rds, the ones that doesn't need fussing with for 2K in two days of hard use are the glocks. They can be rode hard for 1K and put up dry as a bone and functon just fine the next morning for another 1K. No 1911 will do that regularly, thats nada, zip, none I've ever seen or owned and I've owned plenty of them and still own them.
There hasn't been another gun tested like the Glock? I call BS on that too. The AK-47 has the Glock beat hands down. They work regardless of how abused they are
Of course we were talking handguns, but as long as you want to play the game here, I'm happy to point out that you have just put the dependability of the glock in good company when you mentioned the AK sir. I notice you didn't put your own choice [ the 1911 ] in that category did you? You make my point very well for reliability and non issues with functioning in the worst of conditiions in the field.
Gotta love it when a plan comes together and you get the other party to admit such things as you jsut did here in SUPPORT of the glocks, without being able to put the vaunted 1911 in the same category as the glock or AK.
I see you don't know much about AK's either with that statement. The AK was designed to last 20-30K and be discarded by troops which would be issued a new gun in lieu of rebuilding the ones worn out in the chambers from steel cased ammo. The more you speak of things you don't know, the less I'm impressed with your knowledge or arguments for the 1911 qand against the glock.
I noticed you didn't reply to the question of why you would only try to run differing brands of ammo through your glock and not have an armorer look at what was the cause for it's malfing? ANYBODY who knew ANYTHING about a weapon would not discard the platform because it didn't run as expected by simply trying differing brands of ammo. One of the most, if not the most misguided actions I've heard of where a firearm had issues, trying to make the gun run right with changes in ammo only.
Care to continue this conversation over a torture test? I'll use a brand new off the shelf glock 17 third gen and you can use the brand of your choice 1911 that cost the same as the new glock. We'll run ammo till one of them malfs for any reason and the one who malfs pays for all the ammo and the gun used by the other party.
Just how confident are you in a 1911 sir? I know how confident I am with my choice, and I run them hard nearly every week. I'll even go so far as to use the 60K first gen training gun against a new 1911 of similair price if you like for the same stakes.
Oh, almost forgot, I have a "sightless 45" gov model I use in the classes as well that I had built from a philippines' made frame, and a ww2 parts kit with new wilson hammer, trigger and sear in it. It runs great for 300-400 rds with no issues at all, then it becomes a problem, needs to be broken down, cleaned and oiled, for another 3-500 rds. Thats two cleanings a day in the classes if used all day or it becomes a problem child.
Maintenance, and hence ultimate reliability are necessary regularly with the 1911's, not so with the glocks which mine have run for 5K or better without disassembling or oiling [ no maintenance whatsoever ] and were still running when I decided to clean them, not because I had to or they were a paper weight.
Not bad for a
polymer sissy frame gun if I do say myself [ based on decades of actual experience in the streets and on both platforms ].
Brownie
