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Is there any other handgun that uses the same grip angle as the Glock? I have recently discovered that I shoot well with a Glock, but I find them pretty ugly. I know, I know, a gun is a tool, but if possible, I'd like it to be a little more attractive if possible.
 
JustSomeDude said:
Is there any other handgun that uses the same grip angle as the Glock? I have recently discovered that I shoot well with a Glock, but I find them pretty ugly. I know, I know, a gun is a tool, but if possible, I'd like it to be a little more attractive if possible.
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What do you find attractive? Gold? Engraving? Glitter? Blued polished steel? Duracoat? Porting? Jellybeans? Ball milling? Electroless nickel? Stippling? Pink camouflage?
 
I considered a lot of guns before I decided on a glock - I used to agree that I didn't want a Glock just because of how ugly they were, but I have a problem - I think 1911's are the most attractive, intimidating, artistic guns out there, but compared to a Glock or similar semi-autos I really don't like to hold/shoot them. Once I made the decision to go with comfort and accuracy over aesthetics, I began to appreciate the subtle/minimalistic look to the glocks. I recently picked up a G27, and compared to the kimber ultra carry that was right next to it it was an eyesore... but now, I've learned to appreciate the minimalistic/simple approach to the glocks and really like the geometry/bigger size they have about them.

Having said that, my FNP-9 is both comfortable and good looking. I like the visible hammer - the FNP grip angle and frame size with a cocked hammer is a real eyeful IMHO. I don't think I'll ever get rid of that - some of that is sentimental but a lot of it is because I really do think that the FN hanguns are a great blend of function and form. It's very similar to the HK's too - I have never owned one but I think the HK Mk 23 is a real beauty once you've got it in your hand pointed downrange
 
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What do you find attractive? Gold? Engraving? Glitter? Blued polished steel? Duracoat? Porting? Jellybeans? Ball milling? Electroless nickel? Stippling? Pink camouflage?
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Well, I see it only took 3 replies for the flaming to start, but to answer your question, something that doesn't look like a 2x4 on top of a handle. With all Glock's success, I'm surprised that no one else is copying the ergos and making something that actually looks good, too.
 
Flaming? Not flaming. You didn't provide any information on which to base recommendations. I was trying to help... and inject a bit of humor. But if you'd rather not... whatever. :)
 
I think my Glocks are absolutely beautiful from the angle I see them...looking down the sights as I hit 10" steel plates at 40yds.
 
Luger?
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And the Ruger .22 pistol (current model being the MK3) which is based on the layout of the Luger for the same reason.

They may not be the same angle but they are a similar angle.
 
These guns are "ugly" in much the same way the A-10 Thunderbolt II ("Warthog") attack airplane or a Mika pocket holster are "ugly" - not attractive, but 100% functional, among the best in the world at what they do.

I know, I know, a gun is a tool, but if possible, I'd like it to be a little more attractive if possible.
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Polish off the black coating on the slide and make it a two-tone. Round off and smooth the "can opener" trigger guard.
 
What do you find attractive? Gold? Engraving? Glitter? Blued polished steel? Duracoat? Porting? Jellybeans? Ball milling? Electroless nickel? Stippling? Pink camouflage?
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Blonde, brunette, red head, short, tall...

Oh, firearms? :) Blued steel and walnut, preferably with a 5 or 6-shot cylinder.

To the OP: get a Glock, shoot the snot out of it, and be happy. It will spend most of it's time locked in a safe, concealed in a holster or with you looking at the sights and targets. I agree, I don't find them aesthetically appealing, but I own two of them and shoot them really well as well.

Oddly, I find a nice 1911 to be the easiest shooting pistol I've ever held, aesthetics be danged. I rarely shoot 1911s, and I frequently shoot them better than the people who let me try theirs. And I think grip angle is a crock. Grab a S&W K-frame, a 1911 and a Glock and tell me which 2 feel the most similar in angle. And nobody ever complains about K-frames not being "natural" shooters.
 
Honestly folks, I don't think the Luger or 1911 were designed for good looks; I think Georg Luger, John Browning and Gaston Glock designed for function, with "looks" or lack thereof just incidental.
 
Honestly grip angle is over rated. A good shooter is going to be a good shooter cause of the basics not the grip angle of the gun. I read a study that some people may find Glock to shoot better cause the grip misaligned the muscles and there for ends up producing a smoother trigger finger. I wish I could explain the study more in depth but it was a little above me. Anyhow it made sense to me as I always believed that the basics is what matters. I suggest working on quickly obtaining a good sight picture and trigger work, squeeze don't jerk.

I have used this example before: You don't hear the contestants on Top Shot say "I didn't do well cause of the grip angle." , that's cause they are using the sights to aim and not hoping the the angle some how magically puts them on target.

With that being said there is many reasons to buy a Glock, but then again there is reasons not to buy a Glock. This goes with all firearms, they all have pros and cons. The Ruger SR9 review on www.best9mm.com/ claims that by flipping the back strap it points like a Glock... I don't know but might be worth looking at if you really want your gun to point like a Glock.

Good luck on finding the right pistol for you.
 
Besides those with thick area the only two full size autos that had grips that felt different were the TT and CZ52. I would have to say the best feelin' grip can be found on NEW Sig 210 and the worst on cz52.
 
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If you're new to handguns, grip angle shouldn't have much impact. If you have a lot of trigger time with other guns, the Glock grip angle can be a problem when going fast. If it wasn't, then there wouldn't be a cottage industry devoted to making the Glock "point right."
 
Hmm, upon further investigation, I think an olive drab frame will make it interesting enough. Maybe I'll get the slide duracoated or something. Resistance is futile...

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I don't really have a ton of trigger time on any platform, but I consistently have to fight against my natural point to pull the front sight up with most guns, but Glocks come up pretty automatically.
 
I find it interesting that there are very few modern guns made with the grip angle of the Glock.

Because for most people, it is the wrong grip angle.
Most people, if they close their eyes and point a Glock at a target, will find the sights are aligned way over the target when they open their eyes again.

If it were a good ergonomic grip angle for most people, more manufactures would be copying it, just like they did the "safe action" trigger.

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Grip angle is all in the head. Had we all grown up with the sharper angle of the Glock or Luger, we would find that the 1911 doesn't point well at all. We are just not used to them. If anyone of us used a Glock alone long enough to forget the others, we would shoot as well as we ever could, even with the Glock. I have about 45 years of "plinking" in, and I can adapt to about any grip angle or trigger pull. Some things just get easier with age. I also seem to get less tolerant of whining............:neener::D
 
Because for most people, it is the wrong grip angle.
Most people, if they close their eyes and point a Glock at a target, will find the sights are aligned way over the target when they open their eyes again.
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It is for people who have spent thier lives shooting guns with a "different" grip angle.

Several studies have been conducted with people with no previous shooting experience and they have almost always found the Glock grip angle was the one that pointed more naturally.

Two different police training officers in different police departments have told me that when they changed over to Glocks it was only the older, more experienced officers who struggled with the Glocks. At first the rookies were easily outshooting guys who had been their departments top shooters for years. It took a while for them to re-learn how to shoot them. Our local County PD changed over to Glocks in 1995 and they wouldn't think of using anything else now.

On another note. The original 1911 grip used a flat mainspring housing. During WW-1 lots of soldiers were shooting low and missing their target. Testing by the military showed that by changing to the arched mainspring housing most shooters found the gun to point more naturally and they shot it better. With an arched mainspring housing on a 1911 it is much closer to the Glock angle and was standard from the 1920's until the 1911 was replaced in 1985.

The straighter grip angle on current 1911's and many guns is really a recent style change, and one that is over rated either way. I own Glocks, 1911's, Sig's, and FNP,FNX pistols. Have no trouble hitting with any of them.
 
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Grip angle is all in the head. Had we all grown up with the sharper angle of the Glock or Luger, we would find that the 1911 doesn't point well at all.
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Wait a minute, you just said grip angle is "all in the head," then immediately contradict yourself by saying it's a matter of what we're used to. :rolleyes: No kidding!

I have about 45 years of "plinking" in, and I can adapt to about any grip angle or trigger pull.
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If all you've done for 45 years is plink, then it's easy to understand your perspective.
 
Top Shot

I have used this example before: You don't hear the contestants on Top Shot say "I didn't do well cause of the grip angle." , that's cause they are using the sights to aim and not hoping the the angle some how magically puts them on target.
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Well there was the one guy in Season 1 complaining about the Beretta grip angle for why he stunk it up (because he was so used to Glocks). Although I think he was the exception rather than the rule!
 
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