Good 9MM carbine?

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i have a sub 2000(beretta version) that so far has about 4000 rounds through it with no problems.

it has the stock ext. (good addition) and a blue force cheek pad.

it's an amazingly accurate gun out to about75 yards.

it even works with some 30 round pro mag range mags i have.

i wouldn't hesitate to use it defensively, because it works.
 
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kel-tec or hi-point. If you don't mind 10 rd. mags the hi-points are pretty in-expensive and they run forever. I've had my hi-point for 10 yrs. It's like the energizer bunny.
 
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