Got my CCW!-With a Catch

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Well today I finally got my CCW in the mail, but with a catch as I knew there would be. In Iowa the sheriff's can make you jump through all sorts of hoops to get a permit and in my county it is a monetary restriction. In order for my permit to be valid I have to carry at least 500 dollars in cash on my person at all times while I carry. For me to use my permit I will have to be saving up for a while. I find it kind of amusing that I will be carrying this money but I can never spend it. Anyone else know of anything similar to this kind of restriction? Good news is that it is the only restriction, but I just thought I would rant.
 
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That is just asinine. Could you post a link to the county website where it states that requirement, or scan your permit to show same (of course you should blot out any info you don't want public).

Not that I don't believe you, but some substantiation would make letters of outrage possible.
 
Can you just buy and wear a nice expensive gold watch or something instead? :D
 
Uhhhh, what county is this?

Considered a move to Polk county? Sheriff Anderson is great!!
 
sumpnz: There is no link that states this restriction, but it is well known in my county that this the only way to get a permit. When filling out the forms there is a reason box that you must fill in. If you put in there anything but "I often carry at least 500 dollars in cash on my person" the permit will get denied. Even the clerks at the court house will tell you that is the only thing to put in there if you want one. Self defense as a reason is a no no. I will try to scan it tomorrow as I do not have a scanner at home.

boofus: It has to be cash, not credit cards, not guns, not watches. I asked that very question and got told-cash only. Most people just take 5 100 dollar bills and wrap it around there permit and carry it like that.

FMarlon: Linn County
 
during one period, the general prohibition to carrying a handgun in Texas had an exception for carrying large sums of money to a bank for "deposit proceding by a direct route and pausing only for casual conversation along the way. "
 
Before ohio passed their moron ccw setup, having money on you was one good reason to illegally ccw. Well, not illegally. Before we got ccw laws passed you were arrested and sent before a judge or someone who decided if you had reason to ccw.

Having the cash comes from the concept that people who run a small business by themselves always have lots of cash on them and there fore they become a target.

A pizza delivery guy proved he had reason to ccw because he had some cash on him and he wound up shooting someone who had him deliver a pizza to what was supposed to be a hold up.

Anyway, I don't agree with it but I know why the gov. wants that hoop hopped through before you are legal.

Overall I get mad at anything beyond what vermont and alaska now have after the courts decided that the previous ways were unconstitutional.

Actually I just get mad at most of this stuff. I will stop now.
 
When filling out the forms there is a reason box that you must fill in. If you put in there anything but "I often carry at least 500 dollars in cash on my person" the permit will get denied.
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And what if you just define "often carry" to once a decade? You're bound at some point over a 10 year period to have $500 on you. Then if you get stopped and don't have the money on you just claim that "often" didn't happen to include that moment in time.

Or does the sherrif insist that you actually have that money on your person whenever you CCW. If that's the case, I should think that a possible lawsuit claiming unfair taxation/economic hardship/etc might be a possible way to get that struck down.
 
maybe it's for bg bait?---not a good idea in my opinion.

Or maybe to get your lawyer on site fast?--better.

OR maybe if you use it for self defense, then when you are arrested, the 500 will magically disappear from your personal belongings?--sounds more plausible to me.

With apologies to all morally straight LEO's:(
 
That is what you fill on the form, but it is stated on the permit as.

RESTRICTIONS:
VALID ONLY WHEN CARRYING AMT STATED $500 MIN

Whether you carry $500 often or never, in order for the permit to be valid you have to have the money on you everytime you carry.
 
1) I agree with sumpnz "I often carry at least 500 dollars in cash on my person" does not equal "I always carry at least 500 dollars in cash on my person". That's a loophole big enough to drive a Mack truck though. I don't see how it's prosecutable in court.

2) That's discrimination against the poor. Obviously, you don't like in a shall issue state, but I'd think the intent of the law is to deny a CCW to those who the Sheriff thinks may commit a crime, not those who can't afford to apply. I'd inform your representatives and your governor about this.

EDIT: I posted before seeing the actual restriction on the licence. Man, that's an outrage. Another case of the haves and the have nots. :fire:

Maybe you should try getting an out of state CCL that's valid in your state?
 
I am sorry that you have the misfortune to live in a restrictive county, but hey, at least it's not California:D
 
Move to another county. If you have a business, move it too. And don't even spend money in the offending county. Tell the county leaders why, and encourage others to follow your lead.

Or just vote their butts out!
 
This is nuts!

If the database should fall into wrong hands...how handy, besides the CCW - meaning guns to BGs, we can add cash on person...how convienent.

So when this Shreriff of Bling Bling County comes up for re-election, maybe in order to "vote" for him he needs to "qualify" that vote with a $1k cash payment to the voter. Wait that is illegal...or is the Elite exempt from crime?

When is this wonderful person up for re-election? A Pro CCW Sheriff could wipe this guys eye it sounds.
 
So your Sheriff wants every BG in the area to know that if he robs someone and they pull a gun in self-defense he can rest assured his intended victim is good for at least $500.
 
Most people just take 5 100 dollar bills and wrap it around there permit and carry it like that.
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Just be careful handing your license and permit to the officer who stops you for speeding. It might be mis-interpreted.
 
Thanks for all the replys, good thing I will be moving out of this county in a short time. Every 6 months the city newspaper(very liberal) prints all the CCW holders names in the county and once a year in January they print all the holders in the state. I guess that information is public knowledge. It makes the front page and it goes something like this "Do you know that your neighbor might be carrying a gun?" So rest assured criminals know who has $500 on them. It will be good to move to another county, and then next step will be out of Iowa.
 
Thinking out loud here. Would the ACLU or NAACP take this as disparaging to poor minorities? What about a ADA beef? The handicapped often do NOT have $500.00. I would start looking for a pro bono lawyer to file a class action suit. Discrimination, Jim Crow law, unethical and it seems racist to my mind. The rich live and the poor die.
 
does it have to be cash??
your atm card is worth more than 500 if you got more than 500 in bank. travelers checks.
 
I beleive that you may challenge the shireff of your county with being discriminate.

My wife and I both have carry permits-for self pertection. I have had mine for 30 sum odd years but my wife has not had hers very long, a couple of years. The reason she needed her permit was because we had done some serious damage to some drug dealers income. ie Say no more.

We have a good sherriff and he was concerned weather or not she might be into doing some retaliation to a BG. Her answer was basicly "If he comes looking for it."

To bad all of Iowa's counties do not have the best of Sherriffs.

I had never heard of $500 option and I think that it should be challenged.

Vern

I have found that it is necessary to explore the limits of what a county and its officials can do. Look under Iowa Laws or codes. concerning Counties.
I have read / researched them a number of times concerning limitations etc.
Chapter 335 if memory serves me correctly This isn't it. Check this web site out. Good luck!

http://www.legis.state.ia.us/IACODE/2003SUPPLEMENT/331/301.html
 
I apologize as this is off topic but I'm REALLY tired of S- -T like this:
I am sorry that you have the misfortune to live in a restrictive county, but hey, at least it's not California
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I live in California, I'M NOT A COMMIE, AND I CCW. You won't read anything from me putting down a WHOLE state because of some (well maybe a lot of) stupid laws. We're still part of the USA and some of us are trying to change things. Stereotyping never helps anything, nor is it a part of The High Road that we're all trying to walk.
 
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