Guns are the "tools of the weak"

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So what's wrong with being weak? It certainly isn't grounds for being forced to succumb to murder, rape, or assault. I have no interest in fist fighting someone that is both stronger than me, and intent on killing me.
 
Tell them to come work a prison yard, show me how tough you are unarmed. :) Then realize that when WE leave, we grab our sidearms on the way out, because we know what type of person gets locked up, and that 96% of ALL inmates get released eventually. I would say their logic is weak.
 
Rest of the essay is at the link:

Why the Gun Is Civilization
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Marko Kloos

Human beings only have two ways to deal with one another: reason and force. If you want me to do something for you, you have a choice of either convincing me via argument, or force me to do your bidding under threat of force. Every human interaction falls into one of those two categories, without exception. Reason or force, that's it.
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http://corneredcat.com/Why_the_Gun_is_Civilization/
 
At school people are always saying to me things like "people who own guns are weak" and "if you use guns you are weak and afraid to use your muscle". and it is really hard to reason with them can you folks help me out? I try to tell them that I can't fight other guns and knifes with 'muscle' but they keep saying that guns are for weaklings
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As others have said "the gun is an equalizer" especially for women.
 
They don't sound very bright, I would agree with them, and avoid them as much as possible while still maintaining your necessary associations.
 
Always remember that these are the same cowards who would gladly take your gun and keep it for themselves in a time of crisis.

Their thoughts are about their feelings, their worries, and their fears. It makes them uncomfortable that they cannot just take whatever they want from you without a fight. It limits their scope of control, and they hate that.

They are merely selfish.
 
Ok, I'm old, I'm weak, always have been because I had Polio when I was a kid, does that mean I should try to fight a 6' 7" 300 lb gorilla with my bare hands?

How about my 5' 2" daughter?

Not everyone is strong, and no-one is strong enough to fight a handgun with their hands.

I don't care if I am not matcho. I have never cared, because I have never been matcho. My answer to them, ok, I'm weak...do you want to fight my Colt verses your fists?
 
I carry a large folding knife everyday. Just a habit always have. My knife is big probably bigger than it really needs to be but its what I'm used to and what I find is the best tool for the job. Its just that a tool proplery suited for a task. A gun is no different, a tool properly suited to a task no different than a hammer. Someone who doesent use the right tools is ignorant. Its not smart to argue with the ignorant.
 
wannabeagunsmith said:
At school people are always saying to me things like "people who own guns are weak" and "if you use guns you are weak and afraid to use your muscle". and it is really hard to reason with them can you folks help me out? I try to tell them that I can't fight other guns and knifes with 'muscle' but they keep saying that guns are for weaklings :mad: HELP!!
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An old saying is, don't argue with an idiot, people may not see the difference. :banghead: Just ignore them, if possible.

There may be places where that line of thinking could fly. Some old fashioned idyllic places where all arguments between the grown up boys are sorted out in a parking lot with a few punches, then parties shake hands and forget the incident. Some countries where crime is not rampant. But, all countries are not the same. The US, for the variety of reasons, has historically been a violent place, actually more violent than it is now. The murder rate in the US is almost 9 times higher than in Austria, and about twice above the average among developed nations. And it used to be almost twice that. Common sense and life experiences tell me that most of these murders are not committed by law abiding CPL holders. Explain to your friends that guns are not for settling scores, they are for saving lives. When facing a robber armed with a gun, a knife wielding crackhead, or a group of young "gangstas", you don't rely on your muscle power to protect yourself or the family. It would be stupid, irresponsible and suicidal.
 
To the OP: You're spending way too much time worrying about other people's opinions. Ignore them. Problem solved.
 
It's too bad that Wyatt Earp, Bill Tilman, Frank Hammer, Bill Jordan, Alvin York, George Patton,J. Edgar Hoover, and Audie Murphy were such weak men. Don't know how this country ever survived with such weak men guarding it.:rolleyes:

Carl Levitian.
 
wannabeagunsmith said:
At school people are always saying to me things like "people who own guns are weak" and "if you use guns you are weak and afraid to use your muscle". and it is really hard to reason with them can you folks help me out? I try to tell them that I can't fight other guns and knifes with 'muscle' but they keep saying that guns are for weaklings :mad: HELP!!
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I am 6 ft. tall, 185 lbs. & consider myself pretty tuff, I carry a gun but that is nether here nor there, the next time someone says to use your muscles, ask them how good those muscles would be against say a Grizzly Bear.
 
I'd ignore them or decide to educate them, but I wouldn't let them get under your skin.

Agree with them. Tell them they're absolutely right that guns are for the weak. They're for 90 year old 90 lb grandmothers to stop some 190 lb 19 year old thug who's broken into their home from killing them. They're for 90 lb 19 year old women to stop 190 lb 19 year old thugs from strangling them with their panties after raping them. They're for people who's lives are threatened and not for playing muscle games. When your life is in danger the macho mano-a-mano posturing of young men contending for place in the herd isn't relevant.

Just read through this member's site for examples of how guns saved the lives of "weak" people. http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=608520
 
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That is why we have the right to bear arms, to protect the weak against the strong. And the government.
 
"if you use guns you are weak and afraid to use your muscle"
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.....i dunno man........youve got to have pretty good hand/arm muscles to handle a .357 or a .44 mag effectively......
 
Wannabe:

Your "critics" are exactly "right" and completely wrong ! A firearm is an individuals' answer to, and perhaps protection from a "force majure" prosecuted by a superior force ! A firearm gives some "force in being" to a 120 lb woman faced with a 250 lb rapist. It gives a 180 lb man means to resist/protect his family from an assault by a physically superior force. IOW, a firearm is an "equalizer" in the combat for freedom and equality ! >MW
 
Guns, as all weapons, are tools for the weak and put everyone on an even plane.
So, exactly, what is the point of that student view?!?,,,
 
I pretty much echo the sentiments here, and especially of armoredman and thenextgeneration. In deployment, I didn't see muscle once stop an extremist trying to kill our soldiers by any means necessary over a controlled group, center mass. Afterwards I spent a little time working in the prison system and we had an old saying that "one man with a gun could control 100 without one." All that muscle and fisticuffs nonsense is for dummies that are locked up anyway.
 
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