Has this happened to you

[sanerkeki]

About a year ago I got pulled over in a small country town in VA for minor speeding, and I handed the office my registration, license and ccw card and he just looked over it and gave me the ccw back, went back to his car and came back asked me to slow down and I was on my way.

About a week ago I got pulled over in my town Arlington va, for not signaling. So the police officer approached me and I handed him everything and he asked me do I have a gun on me. I told him I do and it is holstered on me. Then he asks me do I have a permit, by this time I am thinking either he has no idea or his messing with me. So I tell him I handed you my permit, he goes back another officer comes and stands in front of my car, the original officer comes back and asks me if I was carrying for work purposes or personal, so I tell him I am not sure were are you going with this but I rather not share my life story with you on the side of the highway, so he goes back to the car. Few minutes later he comes back and hands me my stuff back and sais, guns are very dangerouse and are used in most of the crime, and if we had more laws to prevent people from owning guns we would be safer comunitty. At this point I was like why did he not just give me a ticket and saved the preaching for someone with a different bumber sticker. So I ask him if I can ask him a aquestion and he sais sure, so I ask him on your sig do you know what kind of trigger mechanizam you have, and he looked me like I was out of my mind, so i let him have it and told him do not carry something you have no idea how it works. He just walked away. At least I did not get a ticket

 

[12131]

Some cops are pro guns for law abiding citizens. Others are anti. Sounds like you met both types.

 

[EddieNFL]

First scenario:

"Still at the address?" "Yes, Sir."

"Where is your weapon?" Right hip, Sir."

"What is it?"

"1911, Sir."

"Which make?" "Wilson, Sir."

"I don't want to write a $200 ticket. Slow down for me, please." "Yes, Sir. Thank you, Sir!"

Never experienced the second scenario, but it doesn't surprise me.

 

[danbrew]

Since you weren't getting a ticket, there's not much preaching back you could do. However... if you really wanted to make a point (and maybe get a ticket), you could have said, "You know, I agree 100% with you Officer. Matter of fact, I'll go unarmed tomorrow if you will."

 

[wishin]

I was stopped in a small town in Georgia for weaving (because I was sleepy, not drunk)and when I went into the glove box for my registration realized I'd better advise him of the fact that I had a gun in there so he wouldn't think I was going for it. Although it's legal in this state without a carry permit, he asked me if I had one. I thought it best under the circumstances to not educate him on Georgia gun law. He did take my gun back to his patrol car and ran a check on it, even after I showed him a CC. To his benefit, he didn't find any excuse to ticket me or preach at me.

 

[bdickens]

I'd file a complaint. It isn't Officer Pantywetter's job to pontificate to you on his opinion of the law, but to enforce and abide by it as it stands.

 

[Walkalong]

so i let him have it

Slow learner huh.

Repeat after me: Yes Sir, no Sir, thank you Sir. (May I have another)

Bonus points for "gettin' it".

 

[Deanimator]

Repeat after me: Yes Sir, no Sir, thank you Sir. (May I have another)

FAIL

1. I don't call cops "sir". I'm older than most of them anyway. If he can prove to me he's got a CMH, I'll call him "sir". He's earned it. If "officer" or "trooper" isn't good enough, well life is full of it's little disappointments.

2. "Am I free to leave?" "No? I have nothing further to say without a lawyer."

 

[ClayInTX]

I don’t recall calling anyone “Sir” as an honorary salutation since I got out of the military. I have used it in speaking to a stranger in lieu of a name which I don’t know, as in, “Excuse me, sir (or mam), but I need to pick up a loaf of bread.” when they’re standing there trying to decide between 7 grain or 5 grain and show no sign of deciding or moving on.

I’m courteous to a law officers but consider using “Sir” with every sentence to be fawning and I don’t like it when someone does that to me. I’ll be polite but I will not suck up.

 

[Walkalong]

Well, my momma taught me to use mam and sir, and I still do.

Yea, some of those folks are hard to be polite to, but it doesn't pay to be antagonistic. You can be polite and still stand your ground.

I have one person (over me) at work who does not like to be called sir, and since he asked me not to, I rarely do. When I slip up occasionally he doesn't make a big deal out of it.

Using Sir is not "sucking up" in my opinion, just being polite.

 

[Walkalong]

(May I have another)

No bonus points yet.

 

[RioShooter]

I don’t recall calling anyone “Sir” as an honorary salutation since I got out of the military.

In South Texas everyone is addressed as "sir" or "ma'am". What I observe at school is the practice occurs between: teachers-administrators, administrators-teachers, admin. -students, students-admin., parents-teacher, .....etc. I think you get the idea. I experience the same out in the community.

I believe this behavior is called "politeness".

 

[Deanimator]

Yea, some of those folks are hard to be polite to, but it doesn't pay to be antagonistic. You can be polite and still stand your ground.

When he's 20 years younger than you and flamboyantly WRONG, that's not polite. It's being obsequious, and I just don't do obsequious.

"Courtesies" made up out of whole cloth are a bad thing. They encourage a bad attitude in the recipient which leads to bad behavior. They also take you out of established LAW, under which EVERYBODY knows their set obligations. I have zero desire to interact with law enforcement. I therefor limit my interactions with them by obeying the law, and rigidly adhering to law in those instances when I must interact with them. Calling them by other than their actual titles doesn't conform to that policy and I simply won't do it.

I handle all law enforcement contacts like a Japanese business meeting between equals, excruciatingly formal and formulaically polite. I don't rhetorically "bow" lower than I need to.

 

[scrat]

Cop asks "Can i see your license and registration"
YOU SAY " Isnt it on the Bumper"

 

[Deanimator]

In South Texas everyone is addressed as "sir" or "ma'am".

So then your reply to "Would you like fries with that?" is actually, "Yes, SIR."?

 

[Samgotit]

So I ask him if I can ask him a aquestion and he sais sure, so I ask him on your sig do you know what kind of trigger mechanizam you have, and he looked me like I was out of my mind, so i let him have it and told him do not carry something you have no idea how it works. He just walked away.

If I asked you what is the tensile strength of Dacron, could you rattle off the answer.

What's the point of asking him about a "mechanizam." Is that a new benzodiazepine? You let him have it? Please.

Report the officer if you feel it necessary and move on.

 

[franconialocal]

Your dealings with ONE officer doesn't reflect on ALL OF US. I...for one...am very pro 2A and have no problems with someone lawfully CCW. "Officer Pantywetter" comments are a little much for this forum IMHO. You're only making yourself look immature and foolish by making comments like this. Maybe you should set up a meeting with this officer and his Chief and express your concerns in a professional, well thought out demeanor in a neutral setting. Ever consider that?
-Ask him if his sentiment about guns/crime is his OWN OPINION or that of the PD's?
-Explain to the Chief your concerns about his lecture on the side of the road.
-Tell the Chief that being a lawful CCW holder you are well aware of the huge responsibility that comes along with carrying. It's not something to be taken lightly.

Let's not make this yet another "cop bashing" thread....let's keep it on topic.

 

[RioShooter]

so then your reply to "would you like fries with that?" is actually, "yes, sir."?

Yes, Sir!

 

[Patriotme]

Slow learner huh.

Repeat after me: Yes Sir, no Sir, thank you Sir. (May I have another)

Bonus points for "gettin' it".

I stopped calling cops "Sir" when I became old enough to get my own car insurance and pay for my own tickets.

 

[Deanimator]

Yes, Sir!

As the Brits would say, I think you're "having us on".

 

[61chalk]

In the army NCO's take offense to being called "sir"....whats that comment.."don't call me sir, I work for a living"....I always say sir though, its shorter than officer or trooper.
Back to the OP, I wouldn't want a cop preaching his anti-gun politics to me either, admire your guts an quick thinking to shut him up...

 

[RioShooter]

I'm sure this is cultural. One thing you must consider is that we are on the border and Brownsville is over 90% Hispanic.

This is probably a local practice. I'm not sure how far it extends beyond the Rio Grande Valley in Texas. I certainly never experienced this in my 40 years of living in Indiana.

When I moved here in 1991, I was surprised by this custom. But, after 18 years, it feels natural.

BTW, I actually like this custom.

Also, to keep this on the OP, I also call law enforcement officers "sir". I have to go through a border patrol checkpoint every time I go to the range. Of course, I always address the "twenty-something" BP agents as "sir".

 

[luigi]

I handed the office my registration, license and ccw card

That was your first mistake

 

[DammitBoy]

Anybody who says anything other than yes sir, no sir and thank you sir is a taterhead looking for trouble.

 

[Mags]

Is VA a must inform state? If not just give the guy your driver's license. And btw always say sir or mam, your age has nothing to do with it I hate old folks who think they automatically deserve respect because of their age. What have you done? I mean really, how about we just show everyone the respect we think we deserve.