Have you ever had a negligent discharge?

Have you ever had a negligent discharge?

  • YES

    Votes: 103 42.0%

  • NO

    Votes: 130 53.1%

  • Other?

    Votes: 12 4.9%
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A post by a fellow THRer this morning regarding an ND he had last night has made me wonder how common it is for people to have NDs and what they've learned from the experience. A couple of years ago I read "The Concealed Handgun Manual" and was surprised that the author said that in his lifetime he has had THREE NDs. I don't remember his exact words but I basically understood him to say that eventually it happens to everybody. Maybe that is not what he was trying to say but it is certainly what I got out of that section of his book. Is that true? It really shocked me but maybe it is more typical than I realize.

I'll be the first to confess. I've never had a ND. :) (Now the confession) However, while cleaning pistols with my dad a few years back I had a brain fart and inserted a loaded magazine and cycled the action. My dad noticed it and immediately brought it to my attention. I hate to say it but had he not been there it is very likely that I was on the road to an ND that night.

If you've answered yes to the poll can you tell me what you learned from the ND? I'll tell you what I got out of my experience. Any time I sit down to clean weapons the first thing I do is TOTALLY clear and unload ALL magazines and guns before starting. Not only do I unload them but I remove all the ammo from the room. I might have an ND one day, heaven forbid, but I can guarandamntee you it won't be while I'm cleaning my guns.

Michael

P.S. - I'm talking about NDs here only. Legitimate ADs do not qualify. Thanks
 
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Sad to say, but yes

At the range...gun jammed "open"...then closed...remember the rule about ALWAYS aim down range...good rule...furtunately I was...it went off about 3 seconds later...just enough time to scare the !#$^@ out of me. Good thing I was aiming down range...they guy next to me thought so, too.
 
I have very strict personal rules in place that I follow to avoid NDs. So far they've worked. I take NDs very seriously and don't plan on having any.
 
One. With a Glock.

Sorry, but after that I just don't like the things. About three years ago, a friend was raving about his (a G30), and he let me fire it. Not a bad gun at all, but after about three mags, I dropped the empty magazine after what seemed only 7 shots. He had been loading the mags, so I figured he had just underloaded. The trigger was locked back, so I racked the slide, and no round ejecting or being visible, I dry-fired it to lower the trigger.

Good thing it was pointed down range. Don't know where the heck the round was hiding, but that was enough for me. Given the amount of dry-firning involved in unloading and stripping Glocks, I wonder how often this happens.
 
#1. Shot off a BB before "Commence Fire" was called when I was in Cub Scouts (no one heard it because the archery guys were being loud at the time), I thought for sure that I was gonna get busted by the RO for it when I only shot 9 times, so I dry-fired when everyone else shot their 10th.

#2. Grabbed the trigger on a bolt action .22 and put a round into the dirt at Boy Scout camp one summer when shifting my position around (I wasnt comfortable prone on the mat, so I was fidgetting), RO never called me on it specifically (he announced over the PA that the ground was not a suitable target) but I was pretty ashamed of it at the time.

Kharn
 
On second thought...

At the range...gun jammed "open"...then closed...remember the rule about ALWAYS aim down range...good rule...furtunately I was...it went off about 3 seconds later...just enough time to scare the !#$^@ out of me. Good thing I was aiming down range...they guy next to me thought so, too.

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Is this really an ND? Or is an an AD?

Hmmm............

I always assumed it was me, but...
 
Fortunately for me, no. However, statistically speaking, it is only a matter of time before I do have one.

DL
 
Not yet. I hope never. I am anal retentive when it comes to safety. Some folks won't shoot with me because I am such a stickler. I don't care. You can apologize all you want when something goes awry but it won't change a thing if someone gets shot!
 
Yep.
Erik F I had exactly the same thing happen with 1911A1 (posted here before) Thing is I understand it was MY FAULT. I let the RO check gun was unloaded/chamber empty but it was DARK and he didn't see loaded rd. STill MY FAULT. I actually hit the target with my ND/looked at RO who was also rather surprised and we REALLY checked this time. (stick pinky into chamber) IMO poor reason to avoid Glocks. (which I like more and more but used to hate)
 
I may as well just come out and admit it...

I'm the person MaterDei is referring to. 2 days ago, I could have blissfully said, "No," but things can change in a hurry.

If you want to read my account, it's in the General Forum right now.

Wes
 
There’s two threads right now on this very topic. I’ll post to both:

I had an ND once.

20years ago. I was 18yrs old and and dumb as a sack of hammers. I had never had any firearms training... it's a long story on why dad didn't do it.

Anyway, I been out shooting all day with the boys. We were back at my
apartment cleaning and putting away the guns. I decided that it would be fun to try to cowboy twirl my Franchi SPAS-12… I hadn't shot it that day but apparently someone else HAD.

The shot went out at a 45 degree angle, just over everyones head and lodged in the AC ducting in my ceiling. Nothing made it into the apartment above me.

3.5" mag 00 is really loud in an apt hallway. I literally pissed my pants.
Unbelievably, no one called the police.

I didn't shoot for almost two years after that. I DID think long and hard about what happened and what I had almost done. I finally went to a local indoor range and took a safety course, got educated and got over it.
Almost.

I STILL think about that little incident every time I pick up a gun.
 
Yes.

A couple of years ago I was camping with some friends. We were shooting a number of different firearm. I had been shooting my Glock 19 and wanted to try something else. I dropped the magazine, racked the slide, pointed the pistol at the ground and pulled the trigger. Unbeknownst to me the round in the chamber wasn't ejected when I racked the slide. (You think I'd have noticed, but I didn't.) I was quite surprised when the pistol discharged, showering me with dirt.

From then on I always check the chamber visually to make sure the firearm is unloaded
 
Fortunetly in 10 years of shooting ive never had an ND, and I try as hard as apossible to make sure it stays that way. I've had one or two close calls and "oops" though, the most memorable being when i was about 11, an 18" Mossy 500c pistol grip, and not knowing the differance between a 2 3/4" birdshot shell and a full blown 3" magnum round. Must have been magic rounds, made the gun disappear from my hands and reappear behind me a few feet.
 
One. A minor brain fart, and not being as familiar as I should be with the 1911. The muzzle was pointed downrange, and nothing was damaged except some dirt.
 
Other, had what I consider an AD since it was a malfunction of the rifle.


Had the safety on on a Remington .222, pulled the trigger intending to fire. Gun didn't fire, looked at safety and took safety off. Gun fired and bullet hit the target.
 
Nope not yet. Thanksfully. And I hope to keep it that way.

ND's are serious matters, always gotta be alert when around a firearm. But things do happen.



This reminds me a lot like the Sportbiking addage that people always lay their bikes down when riding.

" There are 3 kinds of riders, Those who haven't fallen, those who will fall, and those who will fall again."

so...

"There are 3 kinds of shooters, those who haven't had a ND, those who will have a ND and those who will have it again (such as the author of the concealed handgun manual stated in the original post)"



I jus' hope I'm still within' the first part of that quote and never have an ND.


Be safe everyone!
 
No, I haven't. However, my father in law has two different Mossberg 500's slam fire - as soon as he chambered them. I am very careful where I am pointing my Mossberg when chambering a round.
 
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