Have you ever had an ND?

Have you ever had an ND?

  • Yes

    Votes: 79 35.6%
  • No

    Votes: 143 64.4%

  • Total voters
    222
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For the life of me, I do not remember why I thought it would be a good idea to lower the hammer on a live round in a Browning HiPower. I was alone in the basement, and the weapon was pointed in a safe direction, but the hammer slipped out from under my thumb, and the round ended up in the sop of my piano.
 
For clarification, NDs at the range, with your gun pointing towards the backstop, where there was no potential danger to anyone, don't count.
I disagree. If you pull the trigger when you don't mean to, it is an ND.
Ahh, but you can pull the trigger intentionally at a firing range without being 100% sure of the outcome. E.g., did I fire this revolver 5 times or 6 times? One more pull just to be sure. If it goes bang, no harm no foul. Not that I've ever done that, but I've watched others do it. They'll cock the hammer, then stop and ask "oh, that was 6 shots, wasn't it?"

My response, "pull the trigger and find out."

I wouldn't count that as an ND if they aimed it, properly, and it went bang.

Also I wouldn't count it if they have the gun on target before they put their finger on the trigger, and yet the gun goes off before they expected it. Esp for firing a particular gun for the first time. That's what the rules are for.
 
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Guess I am the only dumba** to have suffered an injury from a ND/AD...Loaded Jennings 25 in my pocket.. It went off, bullet entered my kneecap traveled just under the skin and came to rest in my ankle. Was 17 at the time I don't recall ever touching the gun...
 
There have been discussions in the past where some shooters referred to AD's (accidental discharges.) This is usually challenged by someone who says that "accidents" are basically caused by someone failing to follow gun safety rules, so these events should be labelled as ND's. Based on some of the stories I have heard, and the few ND's I have witnessed, I think I would refer to a lot of them as NDE's (near death experiences)

I've been involved in the shooting sports for more than 55 years, and my occasional but rare lapses in the observation of the safety rules have yet to result in an ND. But I've seen enough close calls to remind myself frequently to avoid slipping into an attitude of complacency or inattention.
 
With my brothers in our driveway, shooting handguns, I pulled out my C96 Mauser, which I hadn't fired for at least two years, while attempting to load it, I found out the hard way it was already loaded. Fortunately it was pointed in a safe direction, (generally downrange), but it scared the heck out of me!:what: When I got home I immediately checked ALL of my guns to make sure they were empty, to this day, I still have no idea why I left that gun loaded, when I put it up.
 
SIDE NOTE: I wonder if the BATFE and ban 'em groups will use the data in threads like this to support their agendas... e.g. "Guns are too dangerous to be owned by the average Joe and Joline".
 
Guns are supposed to be dangerous.

Like the story on horses: Never been a horse that can't be rode or a cowboy that can't be throwed.
 
Because of your clarification I voted no.

If you didn't put that note in there I did have a ND dropping the hammer on a single six (no transfer bar safety type), it was pointing downrange with everyone behind the firing line so no harm was done. Still makes me appreciate modern single action revolvers more and even the cross bolt safety on marlin lever actions. :what:
 
I have been "responsible" for a ND. I have witnessed a few as well. I left the hole in my wall as a reminder for a few months before I patched it.
 
I've been carrying daily for about 10 years and I've never had a ND. It's my personal goal to go to my grave without ever having one. If I can do that and have my 4 year old daughter grow into a happy, healthy adult, I'll die a happy man.
 
I have carried daily for 18 years. I have never had one but I do not condemn those who have had one. I am learning from reading this forum how easy it is to make a mistake - even for those very experienced. I believe it was Benjamin Franklin who talked about 'doubting one's own fallibility.' When I read threads like this I try to make the commitment to rededicate myself to safety.
 
Sure, I'll admit it. Twice. Both times way back years ago when I really thought that "I'll never make a mistake". Both involved simple violations of the basic rules and momentary lapses of attention.

Not everyone of us was privileged in receiving a good education from a caring mentor. Some of us just learned as we went.

Am I of the opinion that "I'll never make a mistake"? Not anymore. Frankly, I am grateful that those mistakes happened. I learned. Hopefully, I'll never forget.
 
Yes, I was 13 years old. My brother & his friend & I were going shooting down by the creek that ran behind our house. My brother handed a revolver to me to carry. He never said what condition the gun was in & I assumed it was empty. I aimed it at a tree and pulled the trigger while we were walking down to the creek. To everybody's surprise it went bang. :eek: We all looked at each other and then the dog to see if everybody was OK. We were all ok, BUT now I see where I could just as easily have aimed the gun at the dog or my brother and pulled the trigger. By the grace of God I aimed at a tree instead of a living being (my apologies to the Arbor Day Foundation:uhoh:). Since that day I have always assumed that every gun I ever encounter is loaded, even if half of it's parts were missing or the barrel was welded shut.
 
When I got home I immediately checked ALL of my guns to make sure they were empty, to this day, I still have no idea why I left that gun loaded, when I put it up.

Humm, I put up all of my guns with ammo in them. I keep my guns in my safe with ammo in the magazine but not in the chamber. If I am carrying a gun then I keep one in the chamber. I figure that if a trigger gets pulled by someone who is removing a gun from mysafe that I would rather not have it discharge. I don't worry about a gun I'm carrying since it is in my control. If I'm storing a revolver then I keep the next chamber unloaded since that is the one that comes up when the trigger is pulled and the cylinder rotates. I pretty much know what to expect when I pull a gun out of the safe, yet I still treat them as if a round was loaded in the chamber, since it could possibly have been tampered with by someone else or me at some point in time.
 
For a number of years, my signature on several gun forums was:

"An unintended discharge has a lot in common with a midair collision."

Nuf sed.

No I've never had an ND.

JP
 
Yeah...I had a Ruger Security six wheelie and didn't notice that one .357 round that got caught under the extractor when I unloaded. So I was just gonna dry fire it a few times...click, click, boom!! Thank goodness I always point my handguns in a safe direction (safe being a relative term) and out the window it went and into a tree in the back yard.

Took out an 11 pointer too!! :evil: honest...no really...ok...I'm a liar. :neener:
 
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