hd lever guns

[TomADC]

I shoot a non-automatic civilian AK with a light and a 1x optic; one shot, one hit, not spray and pray. Think of it as a .30-30 with easier reloading, a 20-round magazine, and no need to work the lever, with accuracy comparable to a Winchester 94.

You do mean "semi-automatic" not "non-automatic" correct never seen a bolt action AK? Don't misunderstand me AR/AK are fine for the folks that like them, I'm not one, I can reload e.i. top it off my 44 mag 1894 without moving the lever or changing a magazine, It has a Williams peep sight one shot one hit, its my Cowboy Action rifle. But then again my 1st choice is the 12 ga pump. In the house if all I had was my 1894 I'd shoot my 205gr semi wad cutters thru it, it may have less pentration then a FMJ .223 or 7.62 x 39 so might scare the neighbors but I'm not sure it would pentrate like those would.
But to each his own what ever works for you should be your weapon of choice.
We can agree to disagree.

 

[benEzra]

You do mean "semi-automatic" not "non-automatic" correct

Yes, semiauto; "non-automatic" in the sense that it is not an automatic weapon like an actual Title 2 selective-fire AK.

There are pump-action AK's out there, but I don't own one.

But to each his own what ever works for you should be your weapon of choice.

Definitely, yes. And I would certainly agree that your choices are fine ones.

 

[gga357]

It does not matter if it's a pump, lever or semi in the hands of someone who knows how to use it any will be effective for HD.

 

[Cosmoline]

What if your weak hand is somehow injured? I can fire a Semi Auto fairly easily one handed or brace it on something.

This is why the semi or select fire weapon is generally superior for COMBAT. We are not talking about engaging in a protracted firefight or taking hostile territory. We're talking about having a platform that is accurate, easy to use in the night, gives you a positive ID of the target before you shoot, and delivers catastrophic stopping damage with the FIRST shot. The .30-30 or .44 mag levergun with a light does all of these things. If you've got ninjas leaping around throwing those stars in your limbs, maybe you need something else. Both otherwise it really comes down to a matter of personal preference.

I'm totally comfortable with the platform, whether it's against bears or two legged trouble. A semi is another matter. They're expensive, often ammo-sensitive and in my experience they tend to get jammed up. I also do not find them as easy to use as a levergun, particularly with their safety catches. The reasonably portable ones also tend to be chambered too light, and they also tend to prefer the wrong kind of ammo for HD--FMJ.

 

[Gelgoog]

Do we really expect criminals to get into a protracted firefight with us? If I need more firepower then a levergun thats when I retreat to my room for some AK fun.

 

[kwelz]

I see 3 types of situations where I may have to use a firearm in my house.

1: 1-2 people trying to rob my house. In this situation any show of force may chase off the person or people breaking in. Hopefully no shots are fired but if they are, one of two would probably suffice. Any firearm would serve in this situation.

2: A single individual who is not in a right mental state. This could be due to a medical condition, drugs, or both. Sadly this will probably end with multiple shots fired to put the target down. I want something I can followup quickly with and as fast as some people claim a Levergun can be it isn't optimal for this type of setting. I would prefer a handgun or Semi-Auto Rifle.

3: A home invasion scenario. Once these were just fanciful delusions of the paranoid. Now they are becoming a much more common event. 3+ people breaking into a house with force to clear it out as quickly as possible. Multiple bad guys Most, if not all being armed. If you have a Levergun you are in trouble here. You could potentially be engaged from multiple angles at the same time.

Don't fool yourself, any of the above is combat. Some are just more extreme than the other. I hope I will never find myself pointing a firearm at a person again. However if I am, I plan on having the best tools available to me at the time. I think Lever Guns are great. I would kill for a nice Marlin in 45/70 but I would not use it for a HD gun.

 

[cleetus03]

Nostalgia is a powerful thing! Lever rifles have a indescribable "John Wayne" (patriotic) look, feel and power to them. For PC reasons, lever rifles simply have no "evil" correlation associated with them. Their known first and foremost for being the gun of the old west as well as common deer rifles. Yet they also serve as an excellent HD gun.

 

[HardShell]

All this lever-gun talk must've gotten to me -- I just went and bought another old '94 during lunch...

 

[TomADC]

All this lever-gun talk must've gotten to me -- I just went and bought another old '94 during lunch...

Me to, I'm shopping for a Henry, had them at the gun show early this month but like everything else there over priced.

 

[kmullins]

Accessorizing a lever action beyond making it a scout rifle, in my eyes: MAY INDUCE VOMITING.

 

[Gelgoog]

Accessorizing a lever action beyond making it a scout rifle, in my eyes: MAY INDUCE VOMITING.

Good, I hope you puke all over my picture. With a decent side saddle, side mounded light and red dot, it really makes a nice HD gun. Then throw in lots of customization ( thank you grizzly arms) and its pretty fricken sweet.

 

[rondog]

Hmmm, I have a dandy Winchester Trapper in .44 mag, I bet it would make a fine h/d weapon! But the 1911 with the Lasergrips is first up.

If my wife were a little more gun-friendly, I could stash boomsticks all over the house, basement and garage. She knows I have guns, and doesn't really "mind" them, but she doesn't want to "see" them either. Even though she knows I have a CCW permit, I don't think she really knows that I have a .45 on my hip at all times.

Also, it's not a levergun, but I'd have no qualms whatsoever about going after spooks with my High Point .40 carbine. It's a dandy little shooter, very accurate and very reliable, with a red-dot sight on it too. But I LOVE the slim profile of the Winnie! Not to mention those big ol' fat .44 slugs. It would be loud, but what the hell, my hearing's shot anyway.

 

[H2O MAN]

Only the weak vomit when they see a non-traditional set-up.

 

[W.E.G.]

Frankly, I use .40 caliber Glock as my front-line home defense gun.

I've got bigger guns if the Glock aint enough.
Couple of 'em are lever guns... and pump guns... and karate guns.... etc., etc....

Its all good.

I don't know nobody who wanna walk in front of this.

 

[Avenger29]

Extremely reliable, too - more reliable than a semi, albeit by a tiny margin; then again you could show the corollary that a semi is only FASTER by the tiniest of margins, compared to a quick cycle of the lever.

Not "more reliable" than a semi. Ever try to clear a levergun malfunction? It's a lot of fun.

The notion that leverguns, pump guns, revolvers, are more reliable than semi-autos is a flawed notion.


Leverguns are a lot of fun. They can be pressed into service as an HD weapon. Nothing more, nothing less. A good AK or AR-15 is a far superior weapon, but if all you have is a levergun, by far, use it.