Heckler heard round the world: Wenyi Wang could get 6-month jail term

[Baron Holbach4]

If the heckler had been an illegal alien, would the feds deport the illegal or bring charges?

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/printer-friendly.asp?ARTICLE_ID=49906

 

[HankB]

Too bad the story doesn't say what the formal charges actually are . . .

 

[mp510]

I don't know, but if she wrote something like that on Myspace and was a schoolgirl, she would be paraded around TV in an orange jumpsuit looking at a whole lot more than six months

 

[Mr. James]

AP reported:

A woman accused of heckling Chinese President Hu Jintao during a White House appearance was charged Friday in federal court with willfully intimidating, coercing, threatening and harassing a foreign official.

My, how far has the vanguard of the proletariat fallen: the tender flower of the CP was intimidated and coerced[wth, over?] by a lone heckler on a camera platform.

 

[Baron Holbach4]

I don't know, but if she wrote something like that on Myspace and was a schoolgirl, she would be paraded around TV in an orange jumpsuit looking at a whole lot more than six months

"Wrote something like that," referring to what? Her heckling statements or the linked article? I do not follow the point you are trying to make.

 

[Manedwolf]

was charged Friday in federal court with willfully intimidating, coercing, threatening and harassing a foreign official.

Wonder what the term is for when Hu's people in China have student protestors beaten, dragged off and thrown into forced-labor camps, then their families punished as well...

Nice crowd we've fallen in with, as a country.

Once upon a time, I remember hearing that at Tiannamen, while the massacre was going on, one person running past a camera shouted, in Chinese, "Tell America what is happening here!" ...as if we'd be the beacon of hope that could help, the saviour.

How times have changed.

 

[Baron Holbach4]

Wonder what the term is for when Hu's people in China have student protestors beaten, dragged off and thrown into forced-labor camps, then their families punished as well...

Nice crowd we've fallen in with, as a country.

Bush could further appease Hu by having the U.S. import Chinese-made cars and firearms. Or, better yet, send China some Alaskan-brewed oil. Maybe that would convince Hu to call Bush and ask him to drop the charges against Wang. Or, maybe Bush could offer Wang amnesty and put her in a guest worker program. Oh, but that won't fly cause she's here legally.

 

[longeyes]

"It's just business."

~Vito Corleone

"Never go against the family."

~Michael Corleone

Mrs Wang needs to see more movies, then she'll understand you don't mess with the big boys.

 

[Manedwolf]

There were two brave people there on that day in China. The man who stood in front of the tanks, and the driver of the lead tank who refused to run over him.

We need more of both, here, right now.

 

[Art Eatman]

I've read she's a member of Falun gong. From what I've read of the Chinese government's treatment of those people, she's morally in the right. And, of course, in the U.S. she has the right to run her mouth.

The problem, though, is the international relations thing. Never forget the importance that Chinese place on "face". I imagine that in Pres. Hu's view, both he and Bush lost face. Hu's loss is of course far more important to him, but he lost respect for both Bush and the U.S.

China owns about a $trillion worth of US paper. I really doubt there would be any boycott of Chinese goods, here, so they'll add another $200 million this year.

An analogy: You'd like for your banker to not foreclose on you. He comes to your house to discuss it. Your little sister comes in and calls him an SOB. IMO, that's not the way you make Brownie points.

Overall, a bad scene all around.

Art

 

[longeyes]

An analogy: You'd like for your banker to not foreclose on you. He comes to your house to discuss it. Your little sister comes in and calls him an SOB. IMO, that's not the way you make Brownie points.

Funny.

But maybe we all need more little sisters like that to call foul on the jerks who infest society?

In a forum like this one shouldn't we be applauding the people who take the personal risk to do the right thing? God knows there are few enough of them. "Face" is a masquerade we can ill afford.

What all this shows me is how one loses one's honor when one becomes a debtor. Ugly.

 

[Lone_Gunman]

You'd like for your banker to not foreclose on you. He comes to your house to discuss it. Your little sister comes in and calls him an SOB. IMO, that's not the way you make Brownie points.

Why did Bush feel the need to parade around in public with the leader of a nation that leads the world in civil rights abuses? He was just asking for trouble.

 

[Mr. James]

Yeah, well, that freedom thang can be a bad scene at times.

Welcome to the United States, Mr. Hu. Unlike in your workers' paradise, this lady will not be summarily executed or packed off to labor in laogai. Huh, imagine that, Mr. Hu.

 

[Baron Holbach4]

An analogy: You'd like for your banker to not foreclose on you. He comes to your house to discuss it. Your little sister comes in and calls him an SOB. IMO, that's not the way you make Brownie points.

Art, your analogy would be apt if the banker was a member of the Mafia.

 

[RealGun]

What no one seems to know or acknowledge is that obtaining a press pass may have some conditions associated with it, expressed or implied. Freedom of speech may be a hollow claim, just as it is on a privately maintained gun forum. There are rules of conduct.

 

[Mr. James]

No doubt. She obtained the temporary press credentials under dubious circumstances. But call it civil disobedience in the face of monstrous evil - and our craven, bootlicking complicity therein. The protester said her piece and was taken into custody without further incident - she was obviously willing to suffer the consequences of her actions. Classic definition of civil disobedience.

 

[Phetro]

What she did was honorable and selfless. For one moment in history, she took a stand against tyranny, in plain view of all. She had most likely considered that her actions would be unappreciated by the establishment, and punished accordingly. Still, she did the right thing.

"Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." --Thomas Jefferson

The Republicans (with the exception of the few real conservatives who haven't left for a third party) want to shut her up, because they value profit more than all else. They are busy selling our country to China bit by bit, and do not wish to be interrupted.

The communists (AKA "Democrats") want to shut her up, because they like the Chinese way of life. In their eyes, persecuting dissidents is natural, and she should go to prison for her arrogance. You do not question the Party.

And there you have it. See, there is such a thing as "bipartisanism."

 

[El Tejon]

I would speculate that this federal misdemeanor would go away very soon. I cannot foresee a USA making this a priority.

 

[longeyes]

What no one seems to know or acknowledge is that obtaining a press pass may have some conditions associated with it, expressed or implied. Freedom of speech may be a hollow claim, just as it is on a privately maintained gun forum. There are rules of conduct.

There are indeed "rules of conduct." Let's call them a code of honor.

And Mr. Bush doesn't understand this. Rule one is don't traffick openly with tyrants whose values and practices are inimical to everything you supposedly hold most sacred. If he's going to do business with these people, let him do the deals behind closed doors, like any pornographic activity.

 

[Phetro]

There are indeed "rules of conduct." Let's call them a code of honor.

And Mr. Bush doesn't understand this. Rule one is don't traffick openly with tyrants whose values and practices are inimical to everything you supposedly hold most sacred. If he's going to do business with these people, let him do the deals behind closed doors, like any pornographic activity.

The profundity of the above post is astonishing. Hear hear!

 

[Camp David]

There are indeed "rules of conduct." Let's call them a code of honor. And Mr. Bush doesn't understand this. Rule one is don't traffick openly with tyrants whose values and practices are inimical to everything you supposedly hold most sacred.

So I assume you'll be giving up the PC keyboard you type on since more than likely it was produced in the tyrant nation?

No... I prefer a different strategy..keep your friends close and your enemies closer... we need more frequent political meetings between Chinese President Hu Jintao and our president and we need more Wenyi Wang's confronting Chinese leaders about their abuses... freedom is a thing of beauty the majority of Chinese have never witnessed... bring it on...

 

[Phetro]

No... I prefer a different strategy..keep your friends close and your enemies closer... we need more frequent political meetings between Chinese President Hu Jintao and our president and we need more Wenyi Wang's confronting Chinese leaders about their abuses... freedom is a thing of beauty the majority of Chinese have never witnessed... bring it on...

That sounds great! ...Er, besides the fact that it isn't working except to further the selling out of America...but hey, great idea!

 

[Dravur]

I dunno

It seems to me that this isnt exactly the most heroic woman ever to wander out of the desert. I have a TON of respect for that chinese guy who stood in front of a tank in Tianenman Square. He had the very real chance of becoming One with a tank tread. This person literally put his life on the line.

This woman knew that she could disrupt a public function and suffer few, if any consequences. I am not impressed by someone taking a stand with little to lose.

Example, if you are against the war in Iraq, I don't care that you walked to Washington on your hands, feet, tractor or camel. If you went to Iraq and protested there, then you have my attention. Ill make sure we find all your body parts for the burial.

This person disrupted a function that she should not have. If she wants to do something meaningful, then work for change, but shouting out epithets at a guy who really couldn't care less that you exist, just isnt going to change anything.

 

[odysseus]

She needs a good lawyer. Hopefully some liberty groups or 1st amendment group can come in. Like Art mentioned, it is a face thing and that's what these charges are all about.

She is guilty of disturbing the peace, or disturbing a government function. To say she intimitated or threatened a foreign dignitary is a MOCKERY of justice. Heck it was recorded, we all heard what she said. The administration just lost the moral high ground of this incident by charging her with that B.S.

I for one thing this will be an easy case to beat. Jury nullifcation is on her side.

 

[longeyes]

I think our President needs to decide whether he's a good Machiavellian or a man on a mission from Dios. All I see is moral bi-polarity.

I've owned a slew of computers. Only recently have they been made by semi-slave labor--unless you know more about IBM than I do.