Hedging your bets against a possible new AWB

Which would you buy to hedge against possible future AWB?

  • buy new AR-10 complete

    Votes: 121 66.5%

  • buy several AR-10 stripped lowers

    Votes: 61 33.5%
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Lowers and magazines, if the definitional sections remain the same.

All you will need is a "neutered" upper receiver, which is pretty much the only thing out there worth buying now anyways. The bayonet lug is not offered I don't think, nor does a flash hider really offer that much either.
 
Buy complete rifles in the configuration you want.
They will be ready to go out of the box - no waiting.

Make sure you get plenty of Gen-II magazines!
 
I say buy the rifle along with as many other 'threatened' guns as possible. Then, if they get ready to try and make you give them up, air-tight wrap them and bury them in the garden ;)
 
Easy choice. The ubiquitous Kalashnikov with a milled reciever. A ton of Russian ammo and a couple dozen mags.
 
rmkey said:
Easy choice. The ubiquitous Kalashnikov with a milled reciever. A ton of Russian ammo and a couple dozen mags.
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Why does everyone want to drag around an extra pound or two of unnecessary steel?

Stamped is fine for what an AK is and can do.
 
Depends on what you think is the most liekly style of ban. Historically, a firearm is defined as the serial numbered part, the lower receiver in the case of the AR-10. Everything else is a replacement part. Some cities and states have banned even the "evil parts" or any complete firearm that has those evil parts. But at the national level I donlt think that approach would be very easy to pass.

The most likely national ban would be some variation of the 1994 AWB, with a grandfather clause for existing mags and receivers. In this case it would be better to stock up on lowers now and build them up later.

If you think the new politicians will be want to and be able to pass legislation even more restrictive than we have seen before than getting the whole firearm may be better. However, if we go that far down the slope, then there may not be any grandfather of even complete rifles either.

Remember, write in Eugene Stoner for president in 2008!
 
Which would you buy to hedge against possible future AWB?

One thing that keeps from running out and buying a bunch of pseudo military type stuff is the outside chance they could outright ban and confiscate those types of weapons. I sense its coming. Enjoy what you have now because a couple of years down the road you may be required to turn them in or risk bing fined, imprisoned and labeled a felon.
 
+1 for buy it cheap and stack it deep. It will never be cheaper than it is now! B
 
I wonder what states like Texas, Nevada and Arizona might try if there was a really silly Ban that covered semi hunting shotguns as well.
 
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The possible AWB ban has me out buying.

I started with an AR10 300RSAUM build and I'm going to do an AK sidefolder as well. I plan to have everything built that I want finished by the AWB...not receivers.
 
The problem is that "the next possible AWB" is not clarified. We assume it will be like the last one, if it happens. It may be. It may not be.

Until you know what is in the bill, it is impossible to know what will be affected. The solutions to this problem are:

1. Work to prevent it from happening.
2. Vote for the candidate with a chance of winning that is least likely to be in favor of this.
3. Buy as much as you can right now of the stuff you think you will want (with an eye for either keeping it or selling it if the AWB fails to materialize)
4. Keep your credit in check so you can afford to buy the specific stuff you want if the bill does coalesce.

What worries me the most is the whole "stuff to convert it to an AW" idiocy. That's, like, almost everything. Magazines. Rail systems (depending on how AW is defined). Adjustable stocks. Pistol grips. Flash hiders. Etc etc etc etc etc.

And don't bank 100% on buying stuff now and selling it after the AWB for mad profit. The bill may well include a restriction on sale of AWs.

I fear that no matter who wins, we will look at the reign of GWB as "the good old days".

Mike
 
And don't bank 100% on buying stuff now and selling it after the AWB for mad profit. The bill may well include a restriction on sale of AWs.
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Or even getting to keep what you already have, as you pointed out. Remember guys, there isn't anything that shows the last ban was effective at doing anything. If you want a new ban you'll have to come up with a reason why it will work this time. The obvious explanation is "the old ban wasn't strict enough, the new ban..."

Work to keep the ban from happening way harder than you work on your shopping.
 
Coronach said:
And don't bank 100% on buying stuff now and selling it after the AWB for mad profit. The bill may well include a restriction on sale of AWs.
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Well, if you add that into any sort of incremental or immediate seizure scheme, that will have about torn it, won't it?
 
If there is another AWB seriously considered in Congress, then I think it would be time to do a mass civil (I do mean civil) demonstration or acto fo disobedience.

We let Bob Dole sucker punch us once. There is no way that we should sit and take it a second time. If another AWB or worse starts up in Congress then we gun owners MUST become visible, vocal, and demonstrate in the millions, not the hundreds or thousands.

I am still planning to stack it deep, but we must be ready to do everything possible to PREVENT another ban of any sort. If we do get another ban then it is time to shout "The Redcoats are coming!" and stand armed in the town squares together.

With over 300 million firearms in US households there is no way bans, registrations or confiscation will occur unless we willing go quietly into the night.

My choices for stacking deep (not the best or only, but mine): M1 Garand, AR15, G23, mags, parts, and ammo.
 
Buy The Lowers

BUY the lowers now and declare or whatever you want to call them later. Us poor folks in Ca have been down the rd. The lowers purchased and registered
can have multiple calibers and assemblies. $1000 will get you aprrx 5-6 lowers
at a minimum. My regret is that I didn't buy more. I will say my brother out of state is stocking up.
 
I'm just going to continue doing what I'm doing now. I normally buy several guns each year. With the possibility of a new ban I've just started buying almost exclusively semi-autos. Should Obama win this November I'll probably take out a loan against my 401K and buy up a dozen or so more. They'll be a combination of guns I've always wanted, (and may not be able to get again), and guns I expect to appreciate in value. If McCain wins I'll probably take a break from the semi-auto's and buy some of the other rifles I've wanted.
 
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If McCain wins I'll probably take a break from the semi-auto's and buy some of the other rifles I've wanted.
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Big mistake on your part to trust the Manchurian Candidate.

McCain would sign an AWB and other gun control legislation into law just as quick as Klinton or Osama.
 
He voted against the first ban and he says he opposes a new one. That's a heck of a lot better than GWB who promised to sign one if it made it to his desk.

I've got a lot of areas where I seriously disagree with McCain and I'm going to have to hold my nose pretty tightly in order to vote for him, but when it comes to gun control he's not that bad.
 
Big mistake on your part to trust the Manchurian Candidate.

McCain would sign an AWB and other gun control legislation into law just as quick as Klinton or Osama.
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He voted against the first ban and he says he opposes a new one. That's a heck of a lot better than GWB who promised to sign one if it made it to his desk.

I've got a lot of areas where I seriously disagree with McCain and I'm going to have to hold my nose pretty tightly in order to vote for him, but when it comes to gun control he's not that bad.
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1. Clinton and Obama will actively push for new gun control, as circumstances allow. How eager they will be will depend on the makeup of congress. That's far worse than Bush or McCain. Period.

2. McCain will sell us out if he thinks he can get something meaningful out of the deal, but as shaky as he is with the base, I don't see him doing it very easily. This alone makes him a better option than Clinton or Obama.

3. GWB said he would sign a bill if it got to his desk, while presiding over a comfortable pro-gun majority in both houses and not lifting a finger to make it happen. To me that sounds like talking moderate while being pretty sure he'd never have to do the deed. Would I rather he stood up and said "heck no"? Of course, but I'll take what I can get. Moot point, anyway.

The main thing is to not get too comfortable if McCain wins. I'm going to be scarfing up what I want/need as quickly as I can, no matter what. The big question is whether I do it on credit or not (D victory = a win for my creditor :uhoh: ).

Mike
 
I just need ammo and a few spare parts in case I wear something out while using said ammo.
 
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