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Hi-point C9?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by zombienerd, Dec 10, 2008.

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  1. zombienerd

    zombienerd Member

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    Hello all,

    Budget is super tight, and I was looking at a C9 for possible conceal carry.

    1st, I know they're ugly.
    2nd, I hear they're not exactly ergonomic.
    3rd, I haven't heard anything bad about reliability..
    4th, the price is right.

    So, has anyone actually carried one of these? I can't get a good estimate on size, does anyone have a picture of one of them next to another gun, maybe an M9 or similar sized?

    Has anyone had one fail? All I've heard is good things besides the look and feel....
     
  2. ConstantineJ9

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    The C9 is a great gun, a little bulky but fits great in the hand and is fairly acurate and reliable for the price.
     
  3. KC0QGL

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    Yes and its too bulky for CC IMO.
     
  4. ConstantineJ9

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  5. makarovnik

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    For less money you can get a PA-63 or for about the same price as the Hi-point you could get a P64.

    Don't get me wrong, I love Hi-Points...Just not for C.C.
     
  6. 32 Magnum

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    I'm amazed - four responses in a row and not one "they're a total POS" tirade!!! This has to be a first for me. We've sold almost 60 HiPoint pistols in the past year, thru the shop where I work PT. Only had one come back for service and that one came back twice - must have been a Monday gun. About half of what we've sold have been the C9s. The price: $159. Some have been bought by "high end" customers who wanted a range gun to beat up - I've not heard any bad words (other than the guy who had to return his twice) about them, except maybe in the accuracy department - not being quite as accurate as their 2000 buck target tuned 1911. Good guns for the money - may have a limited life span of less than 10K rounds, by some accounts - but very few folks will ever approach that level with casual shooting practices. They are a bit bulky, but I know of two of our customers, who are thin, who carry HiPoints (one the .40 the other 9mm) concealed and don't seem to mind the bulk. If that is what you can afford, as I tell our customers - then buy it and prove it in, practice and use it in good health.
     
  7. sogarimfire

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    I have a C9 now and used to own a JHP45.The C9 is a great hunting/truck/beat around gun.I carry it in a Fobus holster while hunting and if anyone has ever seen it they havent told me.I am also wearing heavy jackets.I dont use it for CC its to big and heavy.I have a Glock for that.The 45 is HUGE .Too big for me so I sold it.I did shoot flawless thru the 100 rounds I put thru it.
     
  8. RacingJake

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    And you can paint them up anyway you like :what:

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  9. ConstantineJ9

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    Nice Jake
     
  10. Gord

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    For CC, your money would be better spent on the cheapest old S&W Model 10 or somesuch that you can find. There are options out there for ~$200-250 that I'd much sooner trust my life to than a Hi-Point; the track record just isn't there for scrutiny.
     
  11. ConstantineJ9

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    My hi point has jammed less most $600 Beretta's and the US Army is using Beretta's!!! Quite bashing on good guns.
     
  12. ConstantineJ9

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    TANSTAAFL

    The Hi-Point achieves its price point to some extent by being of straight blowback operation rather than locked breech. This saves some parts and labor.

    The trade-off is that the slide must be massive enough and sprung enough to do the job ordinarily assigned to a breech lock.

    Therefore, it's heavier and larger than its locked breech competition of similar capacity.

    Once a handgun gets to a certain critical mass, as it were, which varies with each individual, it's left at home rather than carried. At that point all the academic comparisons with other products and / or chamberings become moot. It doesn't matter whose army carries what or what happened to some LEOs at some point in time - none of that matters if your firearm has been left at home.

    Nobody can make that determination for you but if you haven't already tried carrying one I would suggest this be examined and given a higher priority than most anything else. And it should be attempted with one of the holsters referenced on Hi-Point's web site or something else that's known affordable. The magic convergence of a bulky Hi-Point and a marginal holster has left far too many of that combination in various coat closets where they don't do anybody much good.
     
  14. Gord

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    Quit fanboying. :rolleyes:

    I'm not "bashing" anything; simply pointing out that there are other cheap guns out there with "known good" track records in real-world use, whereas the Hi-Point, not generally being thought of as a carry gun, doesn't. Whether that's enough to justify saving up to cover the extra $100 on the price tag is up to the OP.

    Thanks for the rigorous scientific analysis, there.
     
  15. CoRoMo

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    Yee Haw! Another Hi-Point Thread!

    My C9 has never failed to date. Although I'd have to qualify that statement by saying that I don't shoot it as much anymore now that I have a lot more interesting toys. But I'm not selling it because it'll fire and reload every pull of the trigger.
    I prefer my P11 for CC because of the capacity and size.
    The C9 is rather bulky, but it is definitely small enough to CC because I know people who pack 1911s and it is slightly smaller than a full size 1911 IIRC.
     
  16. ConstantineJ9

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    You are right on that, it may be too big for SOME for concealed carry but when I get my ccw im going to use a good old fasioned shoulder holster.
     
  17. ConstantineJ9

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    Are you saying that the hi point doesn't have a good track record? I can think of two gun forums and severald thousan people it has worked flawlessly for!!! Your famous S&W has got one FBI agent killed and jammed for several people.
     
  18. Gord

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    Ever heard the phrase "the plural of anecdote is not data"? That's what I've been getting at here.

    By the way, the Model 10 is a .38 revolver. The fact that you don't know the difference says more than I ever could, and with that I take my leave from this thread... best of luck, OP, whatever you decide upon :)
     
  19. ConstantineJ9

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    Sorry, I didn't see the model 10 posted just S&W and you doubting a good gun but my mistake.
     
  20. AllAmerican

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    Have 2 Hi Points. Like em alot for shooting in the back yard. Never had a problem with either of mine after breaking em in and cleaning and lubing.

    Would I carry one? Nope.
     
  21. indyk

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    good info " hi-point"

    HiPoint Users Forum.... http://hipointforums.proboards.com//Forum/


    Another Users Forum.... http://hipointtalk.com/


    HiPoint Company Website.... http://www.hi-pointfirearms.com/


    HiPoint Accessories website (FREE S&H).... http://www.hi-pointfirearms.net/products.asp


    HiPoint "Link Central" (Very Cool).... http://www.mouseguns.com/hipoint/hipoint.htm

    shooting times.com
    defense review.com
    gunslot.com
    gun review.com

    Also recently started a new thread at

    http://ingunowners.com
    hipoint pistol owners and non owners "handgun section"

    hope this helps in your quest
     
  22. ConstantineJ9

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    Both of the Hi Point forums(im on both) are great for info and fellow Hi Point owners.
     
  23. poilu

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    there's something to be said about pride of ownership when choosing a weapon.
     
  24. XavierBreath

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    When you don't have much to spend, Hi Points have a reputation for delivering the goods. They aren't pretty. They are made cheaply. They are barely accurate enough.

    They are designed to be inexpensive and still reliable. They are chambered in 9mm, a defensive caliber. I would recommend that you search out a used S&W Model 10, but if you must have a pistol, and you want a new one for around $150, the Hi Point is your best bet.

    A buddy of mine who works out of a service truck carries one in each side of the truck, in the locked toolboxes. They bounce around with the chains all day. They look like a drunk Marine in a Pattaya Beach kick boxing ring, but they still shoot. (Note, I do not recommend this form of carry.........)

    The Hi Point below failed to shoot, but we think it might have been the ammunition. YMMV.

    RUSTYHiPOINT743.jpg

    ;)
     
  25. crushbup

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    :what:
    What happened there? Tragic fishing accident?
     
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