Had a coworker get followed into his room once. He was suspicious and was ready. The guy pushed his way in before the door could be closed. He ended up face to face with the muzzle of a Sig 226. He got marched downstairs with the muzzle inside his mouth. My coworker got both a reprimand and a commendation for the same incident. The other guy got jail time.
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SilencerCo Maxim 9 integrally suppressed pistol. It’s my nightstand, OC, big coat CC, hiking, woods, hotel, truck, etc pistol...
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Been there. I just refuse anymore. I’ve stayed in motels where I immediately proped a chair under the door knob when I was done unloading my vehicle. Just won’t do it anymore.Lol. The places I go and stay, I'd have to double the hotel price to get a decent hotel. It seems like I'm always staying in Hotel Scumbucket with all the other blue collar workers* and laborers.
*because I am one.
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No... You are over thinking and complicating it. Just bring what you normally would carry...
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It can be, depending on the size of shot. 4 pellets of 000 buck is quite sufficient for two legged vermin.
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Has there been any actual reports of its use in that respect?
Everything Ive read on the 410 Buck loads has not been real encouraging. At the likely distances they would be used, the 45's, be it Colt or ACP, will give you the same or better accuracy, with less recoil, and have an actual history of working pretty well.
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Not that I'm aware of.
I haven't seen any actual reports of anyone being shot with a .475 Linebaugh either, so should the assumption be that it would be ineffective?
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Same as most other advice: what I normally have. Flying, I pretty much never bother. Lots of hoops. Overseas: hahahaha. But I used to do at least once a month drives, for years, so would bring then my two normal guns. Full size for beltline, and compact for the fannypack for running, etc. I am not super duper happy having one gun either in the room or the car but it's gone okay for years so whatever.
I tend to keep them in the luggage, flopped closed or otherwise concealed real well, basically in case I am super forgetful in the morning, it won't be found by housekeeping when they remove the towel from the nightstand, or whatever. I do often leave telltales; they don't normally mess with your luggage.
Hotels are not especially more poorly built than a typical office, quickiemart, house, apartment, so not sure why I'd change anything out like ammo. #4 buck was a good idea fairy thing in the 90s. I do not recall the proof but by the early 2000s it was demonstrably marginal vs OO, much less 5.56. Like picking a .380, when you don't have to.
Now I do change my training gear. Never carry airsoft and trap, for example. But I do bring the SIRT as it's quiet and as long as the shades are down, I can do stuff in the room. Often get a big enough room I can clear the place from a few different angles, doing stuff like shooting all light switches, outlets, and fixtures as targets.
I tend to keep them in the luggage, flopped closed or otherwise concealed real well, basically in case I am super forgetful in the morning, it won't be found by housekeeping when they remove the towel from the nightstand, or whatever. I do often leave telltales; they don't normally mess with your luggage.
Hotels are not especially more poorly built than a typical office, quickiemart, house, apartment, so not sure why I'd change anything out like ammo. #4 buck was a good idea fairy thing in the 90s. I do not recall the proof but by the early 2000s it was demonstrably marginal vs OO, much less 5.56. Like picking a .380, when you don't have to.
Now I do change my training gear. Never carry airsoft and trap, for example. But I do bring the SIRT as it's quiet and as long as the shades are down, I can do stuff in the room. Often get a big enough room I can clear the place from a few different angles, doing stuff like shooting all light switches, outlets, and fixtures as targets.
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I'm just going by what I've read on the 410 Buck loads and the reports that they are underpowered and don't penetrate well compared to the others.
Going on that assumption, at least until proved otherwise, if going against something dangerous, I think I'd put more trust in the other two.
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My EDC with ARX frangible type ammo.
Howland937
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I hadn't pondered the OP's question until just now, but had been curious as to how many mags/extra ammo members here generally take with them on the road.
Leaving in the morning and heading to the north coast of Ohio, about 4 hours from home. I do know what hotel gun(s) I'll have. Compact 1911 in 45acp loaded with Hornady critical defense and a P238 loaded with V-crowns.
Probably 2 spare mags for each, and possibly a box of ammo for each, in the event I have some down time and there's a range nearby.
Leaving in the morning and heading to the north coast of Ohio, about 4 hours from home. I do know what hotel gun(s) I'll have. Compact 1911 in 45acp loaded with Hornady critical defense and a P238 loaded with V-crowns.
Probably 2 spare mags for each, and possibly a box of ammo for each, in the event I have some down time and there's a range nearby.
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Before you start filling someone with holes please consider the possibility of incompetence at the front desk and this "evil doer" could be simply a fellow traveler who was handed a key to your room because some numbskull mistakenly double booked it.
So ... keep it locked.
So ... keep it locked.
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One spare mag (or one speed loader) and one box of ammo per gun. My day gun (pocket sized, due to work) and my hotel/night gun which is belt carry sized.
At least two posts have already mentioned it, and I will echo their concerns. We are in the age of electronic room assignment, and electronic key cards, and, so, yes, indeed, employee error CAN result in different hotel guests, unknown to each other, being issued key cards for the SAME room.
When staying at hotel/motel to me the dangerous part is getting into the room and leaving it. I keep the door jammed to make entry harder.
Oh and we now stay in nicer more upscale areas. Not that crime can’t happen in nicer area’s.
Oh and we now stay in nicer more upscale areas. Not that crime can’t happen in nicer area’s.
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We checked in to our hotel about 3 hours ago. We hadn't stayed here before and likely never will again. Typically opt for one with a large lobby, and room entrances accessible from indoor hallway but it's being remodeled. This one has outdoor entrance, with no dead-bolt, chain or hinge lock. Only the electronic one.
Plus side (or minus) when showing my ID, the desk clerk saw my CHL and asked if that's what it was. I confirmed, he explained that he carries some form of Glock. Then proceeded to tell me carrying "around here" is recommended even if they haven't seen a lot of trouble.
Plus side (or minus) when showing my ID, the desk clerk saw my CHL and asked if that's what it was. I confirmed, he explained that he carries some form of Glock. Then proceeded to tell me carrying "around here" is recommended even if they haven't seen a lot of trouble.
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I'd rather not die because I was stupid and loaded my gun with ammunition that is not correct for the purpose. For defense against humans, the minimum penetration is something like 12", but I much prefer 16" to 18" of bullet penetration. Glasers and various shot loads do not meet the 12" minimum penetration. The purpose of jacketed hollow point ammunition is to maximize damage while keeping the bullet inside the body. This results in shortening the time the attacker has to complete the attack. Pistols are quite wimpy and solid hits (especially central nervous system hits) accomplish this with quality ammunition.
As I stated before, training and thinking are the answer. These must be balanced against time. Nobody wants to kill another guest, but you are not helping yourself by shooting someone with incorrect ammunition that doesn't stop the attack as soon as possible. Training will help you make each shot count at speed; thinking and implementing tactics will help you win and perhaps prevent injury to a bystander.
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The only question in my mind is, why are you traveling? For vacation? Same gun as normal. For business? Ok work attire may compel a different CCW piece, ie an LCP instead of a .45 Commander.
As long as you aren’t using a .500 Magnum, if you do your part at very close range and hit your target, there should not be dangerous amounts of overpenetration.
As long as you aren’t using a .500 Magnum, if you do your part at very close range and hit your target, there should not be dangerous amounts of overpenetration.
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Hey, let’s keep the gloves up. I’m not stupid because I have questions pertaining to other people around me. That’s why this forum is here. To ask questions without people getting judgmental. And as for Glasers, they were good enough for sky Marshall’s worried about terrorists.
chicharrones
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I love mine. Tried it out on front door. Couldn’t get it open without seriously damaging the door. Just another step to slow someone down.Nice little door stopper you have there.
TOMRKBA,
When my agency decided to adopt a new round, we tested it against our field experiences, read prior gunfights. We found 9 inch mininum penetration was fine and more than 15 too much. Then we tested it the old fashion way, we used it in the field and found it worked just fine.
Also, I stayed at a hotel the past 4 days while visiting family. I used the gun I had in my trunk, a STOEGER Cougar 8000 in 9m.m. It is loaded with FEDERAL 124 grain HST and I felt totally secure. By the way, when you have a gun with you, it pays to have either a rail mounted light or a flashlight, either should be a powerful as possible, since it illuminates possible threats and blinds them as well.
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When my agency decided to adopt a new round, we tested it against our field experiences, read prior gunfights. We found 9 inch mininum penetration was fine and more than 15 too much. Then we tested it the old fashion way, we used it in the field and found it worked just fine.
Also, I stayed at a hotel the past 4 days while visiting family. I used the gun I had in my trunk, a STOEGER Cougar 8000 in 9m.m. It is loaded with FEDERAL 124 grain HST and I felt totally secure. By the way, when you have a gun with you, it pays to have either a rail mounted light or a flashlight, either should be a powerful as possible, since it illuminates possible threats and blinds them as well.
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Same, my travel gun is a 19. Usually shoot it a bunch a week or so before travel so I'm comfortable with it again (doesn't take long, it's like riding a bike) if I'm EDC something else. Easy to find, easy to replace, won't care as much if it gets stolen (though if I can, I carry it on me).
We've pulled some massive Wolf spiders from my basement this year. Spiders get put out in the woods safely.
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This thread got me thinking- armed professionals like the police and military don't switch their pistols or the ammo in their magazines for something else based on a call/mission to a hotel or similar location. Don't overthink.
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