how can this be justified

[CoRoMo]

I don't suppose there are any legal ramifications without an accident happening. Was a law broken here? Maybe a reckless charge? I wouldn't hate to see charges for a legitimate violation, but I can't imagine that there are any ramifications if nothing went wrong, as ignorant of an event as it is.

However, other than legal, surely there are all kinds of civil ramifications. I would think this range, school, or whatever it is could be shut down immediately from this very video. BIMBW.

 

[testosterone]

reckless disregard for human life or reckless endangerment, if a cop saw it and wasn't participating...

 

[highorder]

Honestly, do you actually know in the first person, anyone that is in one of these "units" where live humans stand next to targets and someone comes through a door with live ammunition and only shoots the targets?

Really?

I do.

Federal Agency, non-military.

 

[oron]

***

could only remember, that photo of chinese
conscrip holding target.

 

[SHvar]

Yes, one of these training courses is held in Ft Bragg NC, its a course for HRT units, some of the instructors were prior SEAL team members (and yes they stood next to targets and gave instruction, to the sides of them, and against walls in rooms) and former Delta force.
In fact I saw many videos and pictures from one class, with a now retired HRT team leader.
You would be amazed what these guys train for, in fact they spend around 6 months of the year training all over the country. They arent doing their normal duties that often.
But, as I said no normal citizens are there participating.

 

[Maelstrom]

some of the instructors were prior SEAL team members (and yes they stood next to targets and gave instruction

If had the confidence to stand next to a target with someone shooting at that target, I'd figure the guy shooting better not need instruction.

 

[FlyinBryan]

my rangemaster would fall over dead if he saw that.

 

[Rockwell1]

some of the instructors were idiots(and yes they stood next to targets and gave instruction, to the sides of them, and against walls in rooms)

There I fixed it for you ( I always wanted to do that)

I don't care who you are, there is no justification for stupidity on that level.

 

[EdLaver]

What ever happened to using a tripod & a shutter switch?

Thats what I was thinking too! Boy, whoever the instructor for this class was should be fired and never teach a class again. The photographer must be suicidal.

 

[ilbob]

I think it is an unnecessary risk to take. That makes it a bad idea.

Its not like the photographer was a trainee who might benefit from experiencing gun fire from the other side of the gun. I can understand the need for that kind of training for some people.

Just to take a few photographs, I don't get it.

 

[CoRoMo]

Advanced level training in CQB is one thing, but this video is not a group of HRT members in training. They are shooting from what... 4 yards? That, and from the look of a couple of the shooters, this is just a pistol class of some sort.

 

[contender]

the question still stands though. and i honestly don't know the answer.

in reference to this or any other type or range practices----do the so-called "release of liability waviers" hold water under this type of training?

further, would this type of training also be grounds for termination of the range insurance policy? And heaven forbid, should an accident had actually occoured, would the range insurance refuse to pay out because of these "accepted training tactics" used by this school which tends to go against the grain of other range techinques and practices that are accepted?

"cutting edge" training is one thing, but this seems to cut to the bone and is way outside the norm of accepted training methods.