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I want to see your "scout" rifle set ups

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by 12guagecody, Nov 8, 2010.

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  1. 12guagecody

    12guagecody Member

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    after seeing a steyr scout at the gun shop- which is more than i could ever possible justify spending on a gun, i would like to see what kind of scout rifles you guys have. i am playing with the idea of making a mosin nagant into a pseudo scout rifle as a truck/fun gun. show me what you've got!
     
  2. GunTech

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    M1A Scout:

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  3. Apex29

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    I don't have a "scout" rifle, but if you go to gunbroker.com and click on "bolt action" in "Firearms," then when the bolt action rifle page comes up, go to their search engine and type in "scout." Some pretty cool stuff.

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  4. langloisandy

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    Scout Forum...

    Cody.

    Come on over and visit the Scout Rifle Forum over at: www.scoutrifle.org (PM me here or email me if you sign up, I'll approve you ASAP!)

    Regards,

    Andy
     
  5. gglass

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    My scout model Puma M92 is also my .44 Magnum Indiana legal rifle.

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  6. spikehunter

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    What scopes do most people uses for these scout set ups
     
  7. esheato

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    Wish I could take credit for it, but I bought it like this (here on THR too). Standard Marlin flavor with a couple extras.
     
  8. Moose458

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    Mauser K98K in 8mm, with a Burris Scoutscope.
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  9. Unistat

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    Here is my first project rifle. An $80 Mosin-Nagant that I bubba'd into a scout configuration.

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    Remington left hand Model 700 .30-06, Burris Scout scope and base. Sparks sling with QD 3 point mounting. It has delivered 3/4" groups with the 2 3/4X scope, and I probably can't do better than that. The stock is factory camo, and the barrel was just cut and crowned at 19".
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  11. 12guagecody

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    hey unistat what length did you cut your barrel to and how?
     
  12. Clifford

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    unistat, I like the mosin-scout. Tell us about the rifle, I'm interested in the barrel, scope & mount, stock, ect. I've been thinking about picking one up to build a scout style rifle on the cheap and your rifle looks promising.
     
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    How about a Scout shotgun?......Benelli M1-Super 90. (Burris LER scope)

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    Here's something a little different:

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    A Mosin you say?
     

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    Cody, You are approved over at the forum!

    Other Scout's : Come on over if you have the time! (PM me here for speedy approval)

    Thx,

    Andy
     
  17. jon86

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    Not trying to hijack, but, please educate me, as I have never handled or shot a scout rifle, what advantage does the scout configuration have over the traditional rifle and scope configuration? How is that for a run-on sentence?
     
  18. chas08

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    gglass and esheato, being a lever fan, I really like your setups. I have three lever guns. two with irons and one with a conventionally mounted scope. What's the advantage of the scout setup?
     
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    Thanks guntech
     
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    Natman; very kewl! Did you turn the cantilever mount backward to get that?
     
  23. natman

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    Yep. Used a black pencil eraser carefully cut to size to support the end of the cantilever .
     
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    Thanks guntech, nicely done and very informative.
     
  25. Unistat

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    My Mosin Scout

    Ok, this will run a little long...

    My goal with this rifle was two-fold. First, I wanted to get my feet wet with some basic gunsmithing and second, I wanted a scout rifle. I saw this M-N at Gander Mtn. for $80.00 and grabbed it up. It was definately this worst of the lot that they had there, but also the cheapest.

    If you are going to go this way with your scout project, please learn about Mosins. You do not want to buy a nice one and pay to much just to bubba it and ruin a great historic rifle. Mine was trashed, the stock was chipped, cracked, and repared badly. There was no bayonet or other accessories. It is from later in WWII so it is not as finely made as earlier Soviet M-Ns. It is not from the Tula factory, it is an Izhevsk. It is a M91/30, not a more desireable M44 (I have a friend who just bought a really nice Polish M44 from the 1950's for $120.00 and I advised him to leave it as is.)

    I bought an ATI stock. Installation was a breeze. I've read where som have hade to shave some of the stock to get their M-N to fit, which is a possibilty given the wide variance in the different M-Ns out there, but I did not have to do any such modification. Along with the stock I got a limbsaver butt-pad replacement (trimmed to fit the ATI stock), a cheek riser (solid rubber screw in), and a butt stock ammo sleeve.

    A word about the ATI stocks. This is an non-destructive replacement part. If you have a nice Mosin and want to preserve the wood stock, the ATI stock is a good choice. Be aware that the original wood covers the top of the barrel and the ATI does not. The barrel can get HOT! Watch your fingers.

    I bought some sling swivels, a nylon sling, and a bunch of nylon webbing the same width as the sling. With some strap adjusters and slides, I connected it all together for a Ching Sling. The duct tape in the picture is just to control the excess webbing.

    Next came the scary part, cutting the barrel. I enlisted the help of my father who, while not a gunsmith, is a retired millwright and so he knows his way around tools, metal, and mechanics. We watched some videos from Midway USA (thanks Larry Potterfield!) and talked about cutting and crowning the barrel. We made a test cut 2" back from the crown using a pipe cutter. DO NOT DO THIS! It squeezes the barrel.

    After that, we knew we had to use the chop-saw. This was a problem because the barrel of the M-N tapers down. The cut needs to be perpendicular to the muzzle, so we had to do a lot of measuring and build a jig to hold the barrel so the saw came down true. We did another test cut to ensure we were good. It was perpendicular, so we made the final cut.

    All the cuts totalled around 6". A M91/30 barrel is almost 29" long. My final barrel length is a shade over 22". The M44 carbine has a 20" barrel by comparison.

    We crowned the barrel using Mr. Potterfield's method of a rounded carriage bolt with some polishing compound and a power drill. We used a Dremmel Tool and the polishing compound for the fine work. I also used the Dremmel and polishing compound to polish up the bolt and action to make everything run a little smoother.

    This mount from Overstock.com replaced the original rear sight. Installation was easy, I popped out the pins holding the rear sight and slid the new mount in, tightening the screws to keep it from wobbling. This later became a huge issue.

    I bought a BSA Edge Pistol Scope (also from Overstock) after a few months of looking around. I did not want to spend too much on this project but the 7.62x54R round is a kicker and I didn't want a cheap NCStar falling apart on me. So I went the next level up and got the BSA.

    I mounted the scope and took the rifle to the indoor range for a test fire. The mount wobbled. I tightened. It wobbled. I went home. I applied Loc-Tite. I tightened. I shot. It wobbled. I tightened. I stripped the threads of the mount. :banghead:

    I know better than this. The mount is aluminum, the screws are steel. It was inevitable. Anyway, I went back to my dad's and drilled and tapped the rear sight brackets on the rifle and the aluminum mount. Inserted a bolt and nut to lock it down. The mount still wobbled forward! If you look in the picture in my post above (I will post some better detail pics later), you can see where my dad drilled and tapped the front end of the mount and braced it with a brass bolt.

    I know, you are saying "The mount only costs $11.00, why not just get a new one?" It's a project rifle, I was trying to work though the problem. Also, I'm cheap. The mount is still FUBAR and ugly as heck so I probably will buy a new one eventually, but at least the wobble is gone and it shoots straight.

    I have a few things I would still like to do. I want to buy an angled bolt handle of the M-N sniper style, not to clear a scope mount, but for the increased leverage when operating the action. I will most likely replace the scope mount I am using now. That lesson has been learned and learned well. I have strange thoughts of glass bedding the rifle and reinforcing the stock then shaving it away to free float the barrel, but I am sure that these are delusions.

    Well there it is, the Mosin-Bubba Scout Rifle.
     
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