I want to see your "scout" rifle set ups

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Here is mine. 308 BLR with Nikon scope
 

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This rifle is Gabe Suarez's Kalashni-Scout. I am considering building one like it but I need to finish some other projects first.

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Here is a link to more info about the rifle and the concept informing his build.

http://www.warriortalk.com/showthread.php?66677-The-Kalashni-Scout
 
If you want to build a cheap but effective scout I would recommend the No. 4 Enfield. XS Systems has an excellent scope mount that is a sleeve that goes over the barrel. Or to go cheaper the mount for a TC Contender can be put on the barrel. I used the TC mount on my first scout type rifle.
For a front sight on the shortened barrel the Marlin Camp Carbine sight works perfectly. For the rear sight get an "L" type sight and cut one of the peeps off so it folds out of the way when using the scope. The rifle already has a 10 shot magazine and the shortest bolt throw that allows really fast action with practice. A good trigger is fairly easy to do. Add the ATI stock and Ching sling and you are set.
Currently I have a stainless Ruger M77MKII in 308 set up as a scout type. Ill try to get some pics.
 
I'm doing the same thing you're doing, only with a Mauser instead of a MN. Actually, mine is a JC Higgins (Sears and Roebuck) branded FN Mauser 98 in 270 Win. I will not make weight as far as Cooper is concerned, and my barrel will be too long, although it is Coopers' preferred taper. The walnut stock is also probably not 'real' scout, as most would probably prefer a synthetic instead.

Anyway, my first purchases for this rifle are good quality steel receiver sights. I considered the Williams sight, but aluminum construction is not exactly confidence building for me. These antique steel sights (I have a Redfield model 70, and two Lyman 57 SME's) are very well made. They have nice micrometer adjustments and I even got some handy paperwork showing minutes converted into inches at given yardage distances with one of the Lyman sights. Anyway, the sights are the most important part of any weapon, and iron sights are woefully overlooked these days. Most people I've met don't know that you can even get good iron sights, or how to use them. FWIW, I got all the sights off of e-bay, and prices went from $33 to $37.50, to $51.

Next, I'm planning for the scout scope mounting, which I'm thinking will be the new Weaver 4x. A gunsmith I know is going to mount it on a custom made base that will attach to the front two (factory) scope mounting holes, and then to the (factory) rear sight base, so that it will be mounted forward of the receiver.
 

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Like dtvburns, I have a .308 BLR able to accept a scout-type forward scope mount. Other projects have precedence, however, such as the AR15 I just completed for carry at work, so I don't yet have the mount or IER scope. Being left-eye dominant, a lever scout makes sense, until the day I can afford a custom lefty bolt scout. Of course, I may decide I want to stay with the BLR platform.
 
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The definitive scout, heavily influenced by Jeff Cooper's personal input:

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BTW, is anyone is looking at an AK scout project, PM me. I have a NIB ultimak I'm not going to use.
 
Cooper pontificated endlessly on the need for quality back up iron sights, AND that the shooter should be well schooled and competent in their use. As a Marine who has read Cooper for nearly three decades now, I'm not all that sure that he even LIKED optics at all. Part of me thinks he included optics as some sort of favor to women shooters, and to people new to shooting who he knew, would be far less skilled than the shooters of his (and previous) generations.

Can't help but notice that the rifle above has no sights other than the scope.....:what:
 
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I have one of the early Savage Scouts. Its been a great rifle, and a lot more accurate than you would think for a rifle of its type. My only complaints have been the recoil pad (I hate them in general, but this one was sticky, making it even worse. I've since cut it down and its much better), and the cheesy B Square mount. The mount works, but I think I'd prefer something like Rugers #1/Frontier mounts.

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I also had an M1A SOCOM set up as one, using both an Aimpoint and a scout scope. Worked OK, but really, isnt the gun gun for it. Springfield's mount sits to high, and is made of steel, which got very hot very quick. The rail was also not "Picatinny", and would not accept my LaRue lever mount, and none of my ARMS mounts would stay tight on it. If I were to do anther M1A, I'd go with a standard rifle using the type of the rail GunTech has on his.

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I also have a couple of AK's set up with forward mounted red dots. I thought about trying a scope, but decided against it. Just wasnt as handy or natural to shoot with. The Aimponts on the other hand, are the way to go, and there really is nothing better. Fast and natural to shoulder and shoot with, and you always have the iron sights instantly available.

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Ultimak rails with forward dot sights are one of the best additions you can make to an AKM. I've been thinking about trying a pistol scope with a little magnification, just for kicks.
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Cooper pontificated endlessly on the need for quality back up iron sights, AND that the shooter should be well schooled and competent in their use. As a Marine who has read Cooper for nearly three decades now, I'm not all that sure that he even LIKED optics at all. Part of me thinks he included optics as some sort of favor to women shooters, and to people new to shooting who he knew, would be far less skilled than the shooters of his (and previous) generations.

Can't help but notice that the rifle above has no sights other than the scope.....:what:
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The sights are there - they fold down, as they don't co-witness to the IER scope...
 
So the sight radius is limited to the plastic parts of this weapon? We can't even have a full length sight radius? Is this fold-down sight a peep sight (adjustable for windage and elevation with micrometer repeatable stops)? Or, is just some fold-down semi-buckhorn thing that you have to beat on with a hammer to adjust?

Coopers' ranting about back up irons wasn't so that people would have the cheapest possible back up sights. The 'back up' irons were meant to be the equivalent of the optical sight. This means that you could be reasonably sure of making any shot you were going to take with either set of sights.

I've only seen that rifle (in the picture) in pictures. I've never handled one. Lord knows I've shoved my foot in my mouth so many times that it almost tastes good these days........However.......
 
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so i found a russian m44 at a local pawn shop in pretty good shape, dated 1946. talked them down to 125 and put it on layaway. cant wait to get the gun and start tweaking it!!
 
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so i found a russian m44 at a local pawn shop in pretty good shape, dated 1946. talked them down to 125 and put it on layaway. cant wait to get the gun and start tweaking it!!

Had one of the scope bases that replaces the rear sight on a Polish version of one of those for a while, complete with one of the cheap 2X pistol scopes on it. Always intended to pull that whole front sight/bayonet assembly off and see what it did for weight/balance. Ended up going back to the open rear sight first. Have fun with yours!

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Regarding the earlier discussion vis-a-vis the irons on the Steyr Scout, the front is adjustable for windage and the rear for elevation (need a small screwdriver). Haven't messed with them much other than to zero a little high at 100 soon after getting the rifle, at which point they were folded and have pretty much stayed that way until picture time today. Here:
 

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Mint 1946 M44 Cutdown added AK74 muzzlebreak to tame the beast. muzzle flash is impressive :eek: concussion to shooter next to me :mad: not so great! Can o Krylon paint on ATI stock, NcStar 2-7x32mm IR scope (works well)...

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