I was detained at school today (Aug 29 2007)

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Those of you who are giving legal advice based on your vast number of hours watching Law & Order really should knock it off.

Unless you are an attorney accepted into the CA bar, you are not qualified to give this guy legal advice beyond, GET AN ATTORNEY.

In this thread alone there is so much crap it stinks. Many assumptions!

This situation is unfortunate. It seems that the officers involved were very polite and conducted themselves in a professional manner. The only real issue here is did the obtain a legal warrant to search your backpack? Was a warrant required?

I'll be interested to read the follow up.
 
Scorpiusdeus said:
Those of you who are giving legal advice based on your vast number of hours watching Law & Order really should knock it off.

Unless you are an attorney accepted into the CA bar, you are not qualified to give this guy legal advice beyond, GET AN ATTORNEY.

In this thread alone there is so much crap it stinks. Many assumptions!

This situation is unfortunate. It seems that the officers involved were very polite and conducted themselves in a professional manner. The only real issue here is did the obtain a legal warrant to search your backpack? Was a warrant required?

I'll be interested to read the follow up.
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but I am a Law and Order expert... both detective and Attorney... I watch ALL the episodes! :neener:
 
Just wait and get the report in 10 days like you said on Calguns.

IIRC, an officer does not need a search warrant for something in your immediate control, like a backup or the area near where you were stopped.
 
Destruction of a "brand"

Nike is a "brand". The NFL is a "brand". It's a common ad adgency term. When Micheal Vick was arrested, and confessed to animal abuse both of them dropped him rather than ruin their "brand" reputation. If they kept him, sales and reputation would suffer beyond redemption. Nike doesn't want someone to see the swoosh and think dead dogs.

As these stories roll by I feel like that is what we are seeing in the US. If it isn't these officers its the mess over open carry in Virginia, confrontations with skateboarders, bystanders, folks with video cameras, ad al infinitum.

We are watching Law Enforcement ruin their "brand."
 
I picked up the report 45 minuets ago.

No Warrant, No probable cause, and they miss-represented a number of facts on the report.

See for yourself.


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I'm a bit upset about some of the language used... (as well as the order in which they stated events... by wording the report the way they did, they make it seem like the backpack was covered under terry) "Told him to leave it behind" my ***
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contact the ACLU and the NRA might put you in touch with a good lawyer willing to work for a nice chunk of the settlement
 
definately lawyer up.......i know it costs money, but find someone. that is complete bs. they even stated that you did not consent and that they got no warrant, and that the bag was not in your immediate control, since they "asked you to leave it behind"...then went and retrieved it to bring it to your location.
 
welcome to California Politics: you dont have rights unless they work in the police's favor (not all police are like this, but smaller forces seem to be in my opinion, and also some LAPD and LASD)

not cop bashing, just calling it how i see it.
 
My only questions... why were you on cowguns.net and do you believe that heffers have a constitutional right to keep and bear guns?:D
 
Those of you who are giving legal advice based on your vast number of hours watching Law & Order really should knock it off.

Unless you are an attorney accepted into the CA bar, you are not qualified to give this guy legal advice beyond, GET AN ATTORNEY.

In this thread alone there is so much crap it stinks. Many assumptions!

This situation is unfortunate. It seems that the officers involved were very polite and conducted themselves in a professional manner. The only real issue here is did the obtain a legal warrant to search your backpack? Was a warrant required?
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I love it... You admonish people for offering their legal opinions, and then you proceed to offer yours. Who put you in charge?

Let people offer their opinions, however informed they may be. It is up to the OP to decide/find out whether the information is valid and/or useful. Discussing different aspects of the case with others might point out things he missed, or help him form a strategy. No harm in just talking about it, as long as the OP filters what he reads.
 
CYA: Consult Your Attorney. I would also contact the NRA and GOA and any other groups fighting to protect our RKBA.

I would nail it to them good.
 
Wow, this blew me away. But then again, not really; it's the reactionary type of society we live in. It's no different from when the Internet gained more users vis a vis schools and libraries and a porn pop-up caused you to be labelled and outcast and banned from the facilities. Now, everyone knows what pop-ups are and what tools can block them and it's seen more as a casual mistake than some sort of maliced intention. But the sad thing is, society-at-large will never be comfortable enough to discuss guns and gun owners in their legal context. It'll always be taboo and you'll always be subject to scrutiny. Very sad.
 
This is why I don't visit THR at school. I know for a fact if I did I would be getting a visit in one of my classes from a police officer and prob. getting suspended because of the "no tolerance firearm policy".
 
I love it... You admonish people for offering their legal opinions, and then you proceed to offer yours. Who put you in charge?
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I didn't give a "legal" opinion. And my mother put me in charge, didn't you get the memo?

I'm curious to know from those of you who say this poster should lawyer up or get an attorney, what you feel the outcome will be? Why does he need an attorney?
 
OK, here is my prediction (guess) for this story/case.

Nothing will happen. "IF the poster gets an attorney nothing will come of this.

I the poster doesn't get an attorney nothing will come of this.
 
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