Illegal Immigration, it's not just the border states

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I wonder if the contractors bid the jobs figuring prevailing wage into their bids? That's a pretty hefty profit if they did.

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Arrests here shine light on illegal workers at building sites
By Nancy Cambria
ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH
02/27/2006

O'FALLON


People had been telling federal, state and local officials since April that something was not right at an O'Fallon construction site.

White vans with black, spray-painted windows arrived with workers before dawn and left after dusk. Workers labored seven days a week, including over Thanksgiving and Christmas.

Already incensed by the use of out-of-state workers on a publicly subsidized project, local unions cried foul to anyone who would listen. They alleged that the workers were illegal immigrants bused in from Texas by subcontractors. There was talk that workers were paid in cash and that the money flowed out of the country via wire transfers to Mexico.

"We tried to get a whole lot of people to look at that job, and nobody wanted to bite on it," said Tom Heinsz, an area Carpenters union official.

All that changed Feb. 10, when a van on its way to the site was stopped for speeding. Five illegal immigrants were arrested. About a week later, eight more were taken into custody by immigration officials: seven who were found during a traffic stop and one arrested for a fight on the construction site.

The case shouldn't be that surprising, even in a state with a relatively small number of illegal immigrants, said Jeff Passell, a demographer with the Pew Hispanic Center, which studies immigration. Behind farming and cleaning, construction ranks third in the concentration of illegal immigrant workers in the nation, he said.

Areas such as Arizona and Texas traditionally have had a high number of illegal immigrants building homes, but, Passell said, illegal workers are now following construction jobs into new areas of the country. In the past 15 years, Missouri's estimated population of illegal immigrants has increased from around 10,000 to more than 55,000, Passell said.

While that is about half of 1 percent of the nation's estimated 10 million illegal immigrants, "it's not an insignificant increase," Passell said.

Rethinking policies

In the aftermath of the O'Fallon arrests, state and local officials who issued millions in bonds and approved tax credits for the project are struggling to find ways to ensure that legal labor practices are followed on publicly subsidized projects.

In the future, both the state housing corporation and the county authority are considering requiring payrolls that certify the legal status of workers, creating penalties for contractors and lenders, and asking employers to waive employee privacy rights so they can gain access to construction sites for spot checks.

The Missouri Housing Development Commission granted the affordable housing apartment complex $1.4 million in state and federal tax credits. The county's Industrial Development Authority, an offshoot of the county's Economic Development Center, approved the project for $14.6 million in tax-exempt bonds.

"To say we were disappointed with the apparent actions of the contractor and subcontractor is an understatement," said Greg Prestemon, the head of the Economic Development Center, which operates the Industrial Development Authority. "We're extremely angry."

In October, O'Fallon City Administrator Robert Lowery said officials had been personally reassured by Gundaker Commercial Group, the local developer affiliated with the $25 million project, that no improper labor practices were taking place. They received similar assurances from the Economic Development Center.

"As far as they were concerned, this was a city of O'Fallon problem," Lowery said.

Lowery said the police reports proved what the union and city officials had suspected all along. Through broken English, one of the illegal immigrants told police he owed a man he called his uncle $1,100 for his help to enter the country, and he worked as a laborer on the site to repay him. He was paid $8 an hour - well below the prevailing union wage of about $26- and worked nine hours a day, seven days a week and sent most of his money to his family in Jalisco, Mexico.

Others told police they were paid in cash every Friday by a site supervisor. All of them said they worked for a subcontractor out of Texas. The federal Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agency found one of the workers was a juvenile. He was arrested with his father.

New accountability

Prestemon said the Industrial Development Authority had little reason to suspect such labor abuses "in large part due to the strong reputation and name of Gundaker." The deal had been introduced to the authority by Mike Hejna, president and CEO of Gundaker, a local company that reported $68 million in revenue in 2004. The construction company later hired for the project, NRP Contractors of Cleveland, is one of the top producers of affordable housing in the nation. And its primary financier, Related Capital of New York, reports $8 billion in development and refers to itself as the national leader in financing government sponsored housing projects.

Rick Bailey, a principal with NRP, insisted that the company knew nothing about illegal labor on the site and deferred liability to its subcontractors. Andy Weil, managing director of Related Capital in New York, said his company was as shocked as everyone else about the workers and had never encountered illegal labor problems on other projects.

In April, amid growing rumors that the contractors on the site were breaking federal law by using illegal workers, Missouri Treasurer Sarah Steelman and former state Rep. Bill Luetkenhaus, both of the Missouri Housing Development Commission, asked Hejna to respond to the commission. Both said Hejna had assured them that the workers would be local and the labor legal. Luetkenhaus said that the response had appeased staff and board members but that they should have been looking harder.

Prestemon said once the bonds are sold, the authority has no ability to stop or impose sanctions on the project.

Hejna said Gundaker would never again structure a deal in which it was not the contractor. Despite protests from NRP, Hejna said workers from Gundaker now conduct morning identification checks at the site and turn away workers who fail to have the proper paperwork.

NRP contractors continue to work on the site, and the project's main financial backer, Related Capital, continues to employ NRP. Lowery said he believes Hejna's efforts have helped to reduce illegal workers at the site, but he thinks justice has not been served.

"Somebody has to be accountable here," he said. "We seem to punish the workers, and we let the contractors and subcontractors get away with this."
 
President Bush has a plan to fix this illegal immigration problem - the real problem is no one is listening.
 
Illegal aliens appear to be almost everywhere. Several were arrested on Cape Cod recently.

February 24, 2006

Immigrant raids net Cape Cod Brazilians

By PATRICK CASSIDY
STAFF WRITER
HYANNIS - A series of raids and arrests over the past week by federal agents and Barnstable police have rattled the nerves of local Brazilian immigrants.

Agents from U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) detained 10 people on several immigration violations while searching for three men wanted on outstanding warrants of removal - an order requiring an individual to leave the country.

Local Brazilians believe the raids stem from the arrests of two Brazilian men on Feb. 3.

The men allegedly urinated and spit in coffee served to customers - particularly police officers - at the Dunkin' Donuts on North Street. The pair no longer work at the doughnut shop.

''Some people do bad things and we pay now. Everywhere we have bad people and everywhere we have good people,'' said Fladia Wilbert, a Brazilian immigrant who has been in the United States for six years and knew some of the people detained in the raids.

Michael Gilhooly, the Northeast regional communications director for ICE, could not confirm whether the coffee-tampering suspects were among those arrested in the raids.

''When we're seeking several fugitives, as we were, and we happen upon other people breaking immigration laws, we are not going to release them. We are going to arrest them,'' he said in a telephone interview yesterday.

Although their names do not exactly match those of the men arrested on Feb. 3, two of the men detained by federal agents were the same men who worked at Dunkin' Donuts, according to sources.

Jose Rodrigues, Manoel Da Silva and Giliarde Martins-Pereira were the men arrested on outstanding warrants during the raids, said Gilhooly, who added that Rodrigues and Da Silva also face charges brought by Barnstable police.

Police records indicate Rodrigo Rodrigues and Junior Da Silva are the two Dunkin' Donuts employees charged with distributing food intended or expected to cause injury.

Jose Rodrigues and Martins-Pereira were arrested during raids in Hyannis and Da Silva was taken into custody in Florida yesterday morning.

Barnstable police did not say yesterday whether they had contacted immigration officials about the Dunkin' Donuts case.

João, a Brazilian immigrant who said he was arrested during a 5 a.m. raid Tuesday at a Hyannis home, said he was deeply troubled by the alleged coffee tampering and the immigration raids.

''This is a very ugly thing,'' said João, who declined to give his last name.

Police and immigration agents knocked down the door to the house and placed João and his two roommates under arrest, according to the 39-year-old Brazilian immigrant. João said he and eight other detainees were taken to Boston, where half of them were released after being required to appear in court at a future date.

Barnstable police also arrested five men this week for using fake Brazilian driver's licenses. All of them were initially pulled over for traffic violations. Two of the men allegedly told police they bought the licenses for $100 and $120.

The last large immigration sweep on Cape Cod took place in September 2002, when 35 Brazilian nationals were arrested in early-morning raids by what was then the Immigration and Naturalization Service.

There are an estimated 15,000 to 18,000 Brazilian immigrants living on Cape Cod, according to leaders in the Brazilian community.

JT
 
Merkin.Muffley said:
President Bush has a plan to fix this illegal immigration problem...

Problem is... it is not solely the President's problem! Illegal immigration is being subsidized and encouraged in every town in America and nobody seems to be doing a thing to stop it... Grounds & Maitenance firms hire day labourers each day... Construction firms hire day labourers each day... When was the last time you heard of them being sent to jail for such a practice? Here close to where I live, in Reston/Herndon in Virginia, they are building a site to make it easy for illegal aliens to find employers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why don't we just put a sign on the Southern Border:
WELCOME GUYS....Come This Way To Steal our Jobs!!!

The problem with illegal immigration has grown from a border issue to a national issue... those immigrants that come to this land, register for citizenship legally, and await their turn are being affronted by illegal aliens who don't care.

The president has not handled this situation well, but he is in good company. This country has not handled this situation well. I personally feel that until we decide we don't want illegal aliens in our towns, this issue is not even worth discussing. We are not yet at that point. Companies that hire illegal immigrants are being applauded for their actions...we make conditions for illegal aliens conducive... we foster it!!!

Let's leave the sourthern border open.... that is exactly what this nation is now saying. It's not President Bush's fault; it is our fault as Americans.
 
Problem is... it is not solely the President's problem! Illegal immigration is being subsidized and encouraged in every town in America and nobody seems to be doing a thing to stop it... Grounds & Maitenance firms hire day labourers each day... Construction firms hire day labourers each day... When was the last time you heard of them being sent to jail for such a practice? Here close to where I live, in Reston/Herndon in Virginia, they are building a site to make it easy for illegal aliens to find employers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

All of our responsibility? Yes and no. SOME Americans are thrilled with the influx; MOST, the vast majority, are not. The polls are very clear on this. And the responsibility comes from the top. If Bush really wants to stop this, he can. He can get the Fed to start going after employers with serious investigations and serious penalities. He doesn't want to. He doesn't see or wish to see the illegal aliens as law-breakers. He's made that clear many times with his feeble rhetoric about "hard-working moms and dads" and how "family values don't stop at the border." A wimped-out, phoney Admin policy produces the result we have been seeing for so long. Who are we kidding?
 
The president has not handled this situation well, but he is in good company. This country has not handled this situation well. I personally feel that until we decide we don't want illegal aliens in our towns, this issue is not even worth discussing. We are not yet at that point. Companies that hire illegal immigrants are being applauded for their actions...we make conditions for illegal aliens conducive... we foster it!!!

The people who oppose illegal aliens don't know what to do. The problem has been permitted to grow so large that ordinary measures are not enough. The illegal alien communities are now huge. It will take an iron will and hard action to stop and reverse. This is not an issue that is going to be a political cakewalk but it IS doable. Bush can start by finding the stick he likes to brandish in his Middle Eastern policy. I have yet to hear him talk tough even once about defending the border. That is what it is going to take, but I doubt anything short of numerous Republicans getting thrown out in November will change his mind, and frankly I don't even think that will do it.
 
longeyes said:
I doubt anything short of numerous Republicans getting thrown out in November will change his mind, and frankly I don't even think that will do it.

You know how many good ideas about handling the illegal immigration problem I have heard from Democrats? Zero. That's right. That's one more idea than the Republicans have surfaced! In short... nobody has a solution.... yet. So just a change of administration is not the answer here! You really think if Hillary, Gore, or Kerry win in 2008 this issue is going to be addressed? Neither will it be addressed if McCaine, Allen, or Rice win.

You know when the illegal immigration issue will be solved? When a high-profile American is injured by an illegal immigrant. That's when a solution will surface. When a high-profile American is killed by an illegal immigrant. That's when a solution will surface.

Sadly. That's when the problem will be addressed. :(
 
Yet CD, if we make an example of some of the SOBs and let them know *why* they were fired, it will make the rest of the pols stand up and pay attention - they want to keep thair cush jobs.
That's why I left the Repubs in 2000 and why I will continue to do so until they start acting like Repubs.
Biker
 
Hey illegals only do jobs that no one else would take - like twenty something an hour construction jobs for 8 dollars an hour. I mean who would work for 8 dollars "cash" an hour.

Lets see, 8 dollars an hour, 9 hours a day, 7 days a week = 504 dollars a week in cash. Hmmmm....looks like their "take home" is more than what I take home at 15 dollars an hour.

Of course that is comparing a 56 hour week - 15 dollar an hour- job to a 63 hour a week - 8 dollar an hour- job. Did I say how much I love taxes, federal income, fica, state income tax, misc taxes, of course those are only the ones taken straight out of my check, then there is state sales tax, county sales tax, phone taxes, land taxes, capital gains taxes for anything I can save, and of course inheritance taxes in case I ever have anything I might mistakenly want to leave my heirs.

The point is that illegal immigration is just a boil on the posterior of the problems in this country caused by over taxation and over regulation. There is a huge blackmarket economy in this country, (partly composed of illegals but mostly not), - of people paying people cash or trading goods for servives off the books - it is the part of the economy that gets things done efficiently - because excessive taxation and regulation have destroyed the profitability of much of the private sector by taking away finacial incentives and by making simple processes or services - inefficient and cost prohibative. Want to solve most of this countries problems - get the govt out of the way - deregulate and cut taxes - let people work for real money.
 
You know when the illegal immigration issue will be solved? When a high-profile American is injured by an illegal immigrant. That's when a solution will surface. When a high-profile American is killed by an illegal immigrant. That's when a solution will surface.

Right, the Dems want to wave 'em all in, no doubt about that. But I see no good alternative policy emanating from this White House or the GOP leadership, just prattle about "guest worker programs" that are sops to a small sliver of the American citizenry. Mr Bush, your morality does not control this polity, and we do not need millions more unskilled laborers at this juncture in our history!

High- or low-profile, people, both sides, will die if this situation is allowed to continue to fester. In fact people have died and are currently dying, and not just on the border. Three thousand Mexican nationals have committed felonies and escaped justice by fleeing across the border. To those who loved the victims there has already been plenty of "high-profile" death and mayhem. Perhaps you are right that it will take MS-13 gunning down a U.S. Mayor or some equivalent atrocity to wake up the American people. But the American people, most of them, already understand. It's those in power who willfully refuse to "understand." The GOP was on the right track until it made a devil's bargain in the late '90s--I'm talking about the Dornan election in California. Rather than fight election irregularities the Republicans decided to make nice. Was that smart? We can see where California has gone since, both in terms of partisan power and illegal alien presence.
 
The point is that illegal immigration is just a boil on the posterior of the problems in this country caused by over taxation and over regulation.

You're right. And it is likely to get worse, much worse. Take California, where Schwarzenegger, who once talked tough about all this, has morphed into a mini-FDR after one slap-down at the polls. We are already running on fumes and fancy ledger-juggling but Mr. S. wants to front over $200 billion in public works and other public expenditures. Now how much of that is a direct consequence of illegal immigration, past, present, and future? Plenty.
 
Illegal aliens appear to be almost everywhere. Several were arrested on Cape Cod recently.

I live out on Martha's Vineyard and though nobody knows how many Brazilian illegals are here,it's a delicate issue,it's a very substantial number-my guess would be that it's close to 25% of the population now.Of course far more of their $ goes wired home to Brazil than put back into the community so Bush's economic argument of how much they add is pretty suspect to me.They don't pay for hospital visits,for schooling their children and well,here's a single day at the court house:


Mary L. Cleveland, OUI-liquor or .08%, negligent operation of motor vehicle, leaving the scene of property damage: continued to pretrial conference.

Sarah J. Connolly, marked lanes violation, OUI-liquor or .08%, negligent operation of motor vehicle: continued to pretrial conference.

Arilson C. De Souza, no motor vehicle inspection/sticker: not responsible, unlicensed operation of motor vehicle: to be dismissed upon payment of $100 court costs and completion of eight hours community service.

Nivaldo A. De Souza, operating motor vehicle with suspended license: to be dismissed upon payment of $100 court costs and completion of eight hours community service; failure to wear seat belt: responsible, must pay $25 fine; marked lanes violation: not responsible.

Carlos R. DeOliveira, fraudulent use of electricity: continued to Feb. 6 pretrial conference.

Junio S. DePaula, operating motor vehicle with suspended license: dismissed; unlicensed operation of motor vehicle: guilty, must pay $100 fine, $25 surfine, and $50 VW; marked lanes violation: responsible, must pay $20 fine.

Marcelo Gomes, operating motor vehicle with suspended license, speeding in violation of special regulations: continued to Feb. 27 pretrial conference.

Vanderlei Goncalves, rape: state declined to prosecute so much as leaves remaining assault and battery, guilty, two years probation; indecent assault and battery on person 14 or over: guilty, continued without finding for two years, must leave the United States within 10 days.

Juelton Borges Ker, unlicensed operation of motor vehicle: to be dismissed upon payment of $100 court costs and completion of eight hours community service; speeding in violation of special regulations: not responsible.

June L. Leon, failure to signal, OUI-liquor or .08% third offense, negligent operation of motor vehicle, registration not in possession: continued to Jan. 27 pretrial conference.

Luis Americo Lopes, unlicensed operation of motor vehicle: to be dismissed upon payment of $100 court costs and completion of eight hours community service; speeding in violation of special regulations: responsible, filed.

Joaquin Damien McGrath, OUI-liquor or .08% second offense, negligent operation of motor vehicle, marked lanes violation, speeding: continued to Feb. 3 pretrial conference.

Shane M. Montesion, OUI-liquor or .08%, marked lanes violation: continued to Feb. 23 pretrial conference.

Josenildo M. Nascimento, assault and battery: continued to Feb. 6 pretrial conference.

Pedro F. Nascimento, unlicensed operation of motor vehicle: dismissed, must pay $100 court costs and complete eight hours community service; marked lanes violation: not responsible.

Rubiana Amaro Silva Oliveira, unlicensed operation of motor vehicle: to be dismissed upon payment of $100 court costs and completion of eight hours community service; speeding in violation of special regulations: not responsible.

Wedson B. Oliveira, unlicensed operation of motor vehicle: to be dismissed upon payment of $100 court costs and completion of eight hours community service; failure to wear seat belt: not responsible; speeding in violation of special regulations: not responsible.

Wanderson Gomes Pessoa, unlicensed operation of motor vehicle: to be dismissed upon payment of $100 court costs and completion of eight hours community service; motor vehicle lights violation: not responsible; speeding in violation of special regulations: not responsible.

Juarez A. Ribeiro, unlicensed operation of motor vehicle: guilty, must pay $100 fine, $25 surfine, and $50 VW; failure to stop/yield: responsible, must pay $25 fine.

Silvano Chaves Riso, motor vehicle lights violation: responsible, must pay $50 fine; miscellaneous motor vehicle equipment violation: not responsible; unlicensed operation of motor vehicle: to be dismissed upon payment of $100 court costs and completion of eight hours community service.

Carlos R. Da Silva, failure to stop/yield: not responsible; marked lanes violation: not responsible; OUI-liquor or .08% second offense: guilty, 90 days in house of corrections suspended, two years probation, must attend 14-day inpatient program and pay $250 HIF, $50 VDD, $50 VW, and $65 PSF the first year and $21 PSF the second year; negligent operation of motor vehicle: dismissed; operating motor vehicle with suspended license: guilty, filed.

Carlos R. Da Silva, marked lanes violation: not responsible; unlicensed operation of motor vehicle: guilty, must pay $100 fine, $25 surfine, and $50 VW; license not in possession: not responsible; motor vehicle operator refusal to identify self: guilty, must pay $50 fine and $12.50 surfine.

Cristiano De Almeida Silva, uninsured motor vehicle: continued without finding for six months, must complete eight hours community service; unlicensed operation of motor vehicle: to be dismissed upon payment of $100 court costs and completion of eight hours community service; failure to wear seat belt: responsible, must pay $25 fine.

Zenilton F. Silva, failure to stop/yield, OUI-liquor or .08%, negligent operation of motor vehicle: continued to Feb. 6 pretrial conference.

Ronny D. Silvano, unlicensed operation of motor vehicle: to be dismissed upon payment of $100 court costs and completion of eight hours community service; no motor vehicle inspection/ sticker: not responsible.

Nivaldo A. Souza, number plate violation, operating motor vehicle with license revoked as an habitual traffic offender: continued to Feb. 27 pretrial conference.

Viltomar Da Silva Tome, unlicensed operation of motor vehicle: to be dismissed upon payment of $100 court costs and completion of eight hours community service; speeding in violation of special regulations: not responsible.
 
Its predicted that in 5 years white males will be the minority here in colorado.

Something tells me i wont be recieving any minority benefits, even then.
 
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KriegHund said:
Its predicted that in 5 years white males will be the monority here in colorado.

Just think of all those minority benefits, subsidized housing, quotas and preferences you'll qualify for then......!!! ;) ;)
 
Here in Columbus, Ohio, its a mix of Somolia/Ethiopia & Mexico/Central American illegals. And they have brought all the fun things about their culture with them: violence, substance abuse, and all the various added value things that go with it :rolleyes: . In a state that is having problems creating jobs & keeping un-employment down, they are really stressing things.

I wouldn't care what country they are from if they were here legally, more power to them. But, when they are already criminals for their method of entering the U.S. it is not all that likely that they are going to obey any other laws either. Our habit of deporting illegals when they break our laws is a joke, thats just a free plane ride home to visit the family.

Ok, I will get off my soapbox now.
 
Three yrs ago, I went to an "Egg Ranch" near Galt, IA (North of Des Moines)to pickup a truckload of eggs headed to CA.

The instructions from my freight broker said to look for the guy with the pony tail....he's the only one there who speaks English. He was correct.

I was in WalMart in St. Joseph, MO a couple of weeks ago. In the customer service area was a banner advertising money transfers to Mexico....price: $22.90. Looks like the Walton's are getting their cut!

In my travels through all 48 states in my 18 wheeler I have encountered Hispanic folks who speak very little/no English almost everywhere except Maine/New Hampshire/Vermont.

No country in the history of the world would allow this situation, let alone gaurantee free education, can't be turned away from a hospital, sanctuary cities, etc.

We've allowed ourselves to become the doormat for the planet.
 
Three yrs ago, I went to an "Egg Ranch" near Galt, IA (North of Des Moines)to pickup a truckload of eggs headed to CA.

The instructions from my freight broker said to look for the guy with the pony tail....he's the only one there who speaks English. He was correct.

I was in WalMart in St. Joseph, MO a couple of weeks ago. In the customer service area was a banner advertising money transfers to Mexico....price: $22.90. Looks like the Walton's are getting their cut!

In my travels through all 48 states in my 18 wheeler I have encountered Hispanic folks who speak very little/no English almost everywhere except Maine/New Hampshire/Vermont.

No country in the history of the world would allow this situation, let alone gaurantee free education, can't be turned away from a hospital, sanctuary cities, etc.

We've allowed ourselves to become the doormat for the planet.

yeah, you almost got that right except it's the ruling and media elites that want us to be the doormat of the planet. those of us who oppose this plan are called "vigilantes".
 
Illegal immigrants are just the latest weapon in the assult on the middle class. The goal of the right and the left in this country is to have a two class system - haves and have nots. The middle class doesn't fit either group's demographics and we are in the way of a new and 'better' order.
 
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