is .357 the new 9mm?

[Lnf Crzr]

10 years ago I Had me a 72 nickel 6” Colt Python - parted with it

Traded up for a 1985 Yamaha Vmax and a 700 triple Yamaha snowmobile. Both had over 100 hp in excellent condition.

Had fun and don’t really miss the Colt.
Sandbag benched it next to a 6” 586 no dash I had. Accuracy wise-
Smith had it at 25yards… The Colt, seemed delicate to me.

Oh and Ya Rick Grimes (Awesome Show) and The New Python are two reasons the Tre Fi 7 will get a Resurgence

 

[Mr_Flintstone]

Why I like my Model 19-3.
1. The plop, plop, plop, plop, plop, plop of six 158 gr .357 rounds.
2. The rapid click-click-click of the hammer being pulled.
3. The BOOM when the trigger is pulled.
4. The fact that the hole in the paper is exactly where I aimed the gun.
5. Repeat.
6. Dump the empties in my hand, stick them in my pocket, and start all over again; maybe with .38’s.

 

[Lnf Crzr]

When I go to the city- In the truck, Knife with extra mags in glovebox-9

When in the woods and other places
357.

Tho I do admit… I feel better with a 7 shot or even a 5 shot 357 - anywhere. 3” or 4” 44spl or 357 revolver is what i prefer

 

[CoalTrain49]

9MM with 124s @ 1050ish FPS............357 Mag with 158s @ a leisurely 800ish FPS.....both tons of fun.
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I put a Vortex Venom on a S&W 625 and that's more fun than should be legal. All I can say is if you buy a revolver make sure it's drilled and taped for a plate so a dot can be mounted. Lots of S&W revolvers are set up for attaching optics but you need to research it. I think they started that about 15 years ago. Generally, if you see a square end on a sight rib it isn't drilled/tapped. A rounded end will be drilled/tapped. Or just pop the cylinder out and look for the holes in the top strap. There should be three.

 

[Mark_Mark]

I put a Vortex Venom on a S&W 625 and that's more fun than should be legal. All I can say is if you buy a revolver make sure it's drilled and taped for a plate so a dot can be mounted.

I have a Ultra Dot, Micro Dot, on my Beretta 87 target and that suckers is well built with lot of controls. Too bad the 87 need to be cleaned every 200-300 rounds. So fussy

 

[Lnf Crzr]

A 115 at 1250? Awwww, that's so cuteView attachment 1028258

Sure is. That Marlin Buffalo Bore 357 Definitely does move! I’ve got some of the 180s and out of a 16” and 18.5” carbine- Serious power/Fps

Buffalo Bore 357

 

[CoalTrain49]

I own like 3 glocks, they are used as “people who don’t know how to shoot”

Not necessarily. Some people who can shoot like Glocks. Hickock 45 prefers Glocks for completion. He's an old guy that has a yuge like for the revolvers. He can shoot just about anything a lot better than I can.

 

[fxvr5]

My Glock Sock 17L with all the Mall ninja stars.

I can push a 115g at 1250+ out of it.

I hate to break the news to you, but a 115 at 1250 isn't fast. Many standard factory 9mm loads will do that from a 5" barrel. That's slow for your 6"(+?) barrel.

 

[Mark_Mark]

I hate to break the news to you, but a 115 at 1250 isn't fast. Many standard factory 9mm loads will do that from a 5" barrel. That's slow for your 6"(+?) barrel.

well maybe my definition of hot is 1250! I can’t catch a break

 

[Airborne Falcon]

It's a reloaders caliber because there is zero chance I'm paying 1 dollar per.

Exactly

 

[dartor]

A .357 (Smith Model 19) was my first large bore handgun - almost 50 years ago. Does that mean I get to sit at the "cool bench" at the range? Or does it just mean I'm old?
Just kidding. My "range" is either the back pasture and rear deck, or the county gravel pit about 2 miles south of the house. And I sit anywhere I want at those two places.

I have a model 19 with a 4" barrel bought used over 20 years ago. It's one of my guns that I would never consider selling. Extremely accurate, but relegated to only shooting 38 specials for the rest of it's life. I'm too worried about wear and tear with 357mag loads in it. I have a 686 for 357 mags. I cast and load 125gn RNFP and 148gn wad cutters for it. You should see the wife's smile when she shoots it. I've lost the gun to her, but that's ok I plan on keepin' her. So I have the best of both worlds.

 

[Lnf Crzr]

158gr 357 are fine in K frames- it’s those 125s that will crack the forcing cone. Especially if forcing cone has lead build up.

 

[Bfh_auto]

I have a model 19 with a 4" barrel bought used over 20 years ago. It's one of my guns that I would never consider selling. Extremely accurate, but relegated to only shooting 38 specials for the rest of it's life. I'm too worried about wear and tear with 357mag loads in it. I have a 686 for 357 mags. I cast and load 125gn RNFP and 148gn wad cutters for it. You should see the wife's smile when she shoots it. I've lost the gun to her, but that's ok I plan on keepin' her. So I have the best of both worlds.

Say least she has good taste
I had that issue with my model 65. So I bought her a model 10 38 special. She still kept my 65. So now I have 2 Smiths and a happy wife.
I use a black hawk for my heavy 357 loads. It handles them better.

 

[mdi]

Just like all the former "9mm vs 38 Special vs 357 Magnum" threads/"discussions", this one has boiled down to old wive's tales, half truths, guesses, and personal unsubstantiated feelings. Some quote firearms "Celebraties", some quote "history". I haven't shot any criminals, nor have I shot any enemy soldiers (But what I read is the 357 Magnum was developed from the 38-40 as a "car stopper" as bad guys had better/faster cars, and the "wounding only" bullets were from Geneva Convention "Rules" against expading, "dum-dum" bullets) and the best I can do is research the hard numbers; bullet weights vs velocities and ft lbs of energe, barrel lngths, etc...

Normally I avoid these arguements...

 

[CryptKeeper5]

They've always been popular with me....

 

[Mark_Mark]

Just like all the former "9mm vs 38 Special vs 357 Magnum" threads/"discussions", this one has boiled down to old wive's tales, half truths, guesses, and personal unsubstantiated feelings. Some quote firearms "Celebraties", some quote "history". I haven't shot any criminals, nor have I shot any enemy soldiers (But what I read is the 357 Magnum was developed from the 38-40 as a "car stopper" as bad guys had better/faster cars, and the "wounding only" bullets were from Geneva Convention "Rules" against expading, "dum-dum" bullets) and the best I can do is research the hard numbers; bullet weights vs velocities and ft lbs of energe, barrel lngths, etc...

Normally I avoid these arguements...

the .357 is just cooler than the 9mm. Young and old alike can agree. You get more beef in your burger with .357. 9mm is just a happy meal., lots of plastic toy and a soy burger

 

[Mark_Mark]

They've always been popular with me....

WOW!

 

[fxvr5]

Just like all the former "9mm vs 38 Special vs 357 Magnum" threads/"discussions", this one has boiled down to old wive's tales, half truths, guesses, and personal unsubstantiated feelings. Some quote firearms "Celebraties", some quote "history". I haven't shot any criminals, nor have I shot any enemy soldiers (But what I read is the 357 Magnum was developed from the 38-40 as a "car stopper" as bad guys had better/faster cars, and the "wounding only" bullets were from Geneva Convention "Rules" against expading, "dum-dum" bullets) and the best I can do is research the hard numbers; bullet weights vs velocities and ft lbs of energe, barrel lngths, etc...

Normally I avoid these arguements...

Don't you mean the .38/44?

And I must have missed the comments on the 'wounding only' bullets. Where did that come from?

 

[fxvr5]

Just like all the former "9mm vs 38 Special vs 357 Magnum" threads/"discussions", this one has boiled down to old wive's tales, half truths, guesses, and personal unsubstantiated feelings. Some quote firearms "Celebraties", some quote "history". I haven't shot any criminals, nor have I shot any enemy soldiers (But what I read is the 357 Magnum was developed from the 38-40 as a "car stopper" as bad guys had better/faster cars, and the "wounding only" bullets were from Geneva Convention "Rules" against expading, "dum-dum" bullets) and the best I can do is research the hard numbers; bullet weights vs velocities and ft lbs of energe, barrel lngths, etc...

Normally I avoid these arguements...

The dum-dum bullets thing was the 1899 Hague Convention.

 

[Mark_Mark]

this guy can shoot .357 like a .22

 

[1942bull]

No! 357 is not the new 9mm. It is the old 357. Just as 9mm is the old 9mm. Bullet size means nothing. Bullet design means everything provided that the bullet is driven by the right powder load. I EDC 9mm with 124 g Federal HST. It will get job done. If I we are to focus in power we need to consider 50 caliber revolvers and wrist braces. I believe this. Speed to being able to shoot and accuracy of shot placement are critical and capacity is important because a gunfight is not bound by the law of averages when it comes to rounds expended.

 

[Mark_Mark]

No! 357 is not the new 9mm. It is the old 357. Just as 9mm is the old 9mm. Bullet size means nothing. Bullet design means everything provided that the bullet is driven by the right powder load. I EDC 9mm with 124 g Federal HST. It will get job done. If I we are to focus in power we need to consider 50 caliber revolvers and wrist braces. I believe this. Speed to being able to shoot and accuracy of shot placement are critical and capacity is important because a gunfight is not bound by the law of averages when it comes to rounds expended.

Not everything has to be a gunfight, sometimes you just want to have fun with a wheel gun

 

[GeoDudeFlorida]

Not everything has to be a gunfight, sometimes you just want to have fun with a wheel gun

That may well be the smartest thing you’ve ever posted.

 

[Bfh_auto]

Just like all the former "9mm vs 38 Special vs 357 Magnum" threads/"discussions", this one has boiled down to old wive's tales, half truths, guesses, and personal unsubstantiated feelings. Some quote firearms "Celebraties", some quote "history". I haven't shot any criminals, nor have I shot any enemy soldiers (But what I read is the 357 Magnum was developed from the 38-40 as a "car stopper" as bad guys had better/faster cars, and the "wounding only" bullets were from Geneva Convention "Rules" against expading, "dum-dum" bullets) and the best I can do is research the hard numbers; bullet weights vs velocities and ft lbs of energe, barrel lngths, etc...

Normally I avoid these arguements...

Bud, your way out in left field.
This thread is about the popularity of the 357 coming back a little bit. It's not really about power or anything like that.

 

[1942bull]

Not everything has to be a gunfight, sometimes you just want to have fun with a wheel gun

Of course you are correct. My comment was from my perspective being a person who owns a gun for self defense only. I do know lots of folks who are gun hobbyists and sportsmen and love owning and shooting guns. More power to them. In the future I will keep in mind that I am a bit narrowly focused when it comes to gun ownership. That is for the wake-up call.