Is it possible that the Swiss K-11/K31 series are the best rifles ever made?

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Without fail, everytime I pull back the bolt on one of my K-31s, I marvel at the level of precision machining that went into the rifles. I see K-11s and wonder at the walnut blank that must have hit the lathe to make the stock. I shoot my K-31s at the range and other people gawk at some of the groups I can score with OMG! iron sights.:eek:

Everyone I have ever allowed fire one delights at the K-31 trigger, the overall attention to detail of the rifle, and of its GP-11 ammo. The only laughs the rifle ever draws is for its cardboard and aluminum stripper clips, but what can really be said? They're cheap and they work. Some folks do criticize the sights, but I think we have been uniformally spoiled by peeps and fiber optics, scopes and other devices over the years since the K-31 was in service.

These are superbly accurate rifles in either flavor.
They fire match level surplus ammo.
They can be reloaded to about .308 power with just about any .308 bullet as long as the OAL is right.
People sometimes choke when I tell them I have paid as little as $89.00 for one, though they didn't see it before I redid the stocks.

I just get to thinking that if these rifles didn't exist, someone would have to create them and then they wouldn't be coming in at two bills with walnut and decent bluing.

I'd gladly pay an equal amount for a pristine K-31 over any mass produced >$1,000 bolt gun on the market today.

The K-31 can be scoped.
It can be scouterized.
It can mount diopters.
It can be converted to left hand use via one expensive part but with no tools or gunsmithing really required.

The dang things represent, to me, the pinnacle of the "bolt action" design. Yes, it is not a turn bolt. Yes, it is not as legendarily as strong as a Mauser action. Yes, it never saw the sand and mud of combat like almost all of its contemporaries, but I am finding these infernal machines taking over my safe, shouldering aside my Garand, making me skip every Mosin, non-Swede Mauser, and any Enfield at the gun show, and also have my modern Remington and Savage bolt guns growing cobwebs.

Maybe I have Swiss flu big time, but I have had it for over two years now so I think I have found my holy grail, and I can have them delivered, sometimes with serially matching bayonets made by Victorinox, right to my door.

I find myself musing about getting a K-31 from every year of their arsenal delivered manufacture. Only 21 more rifles to go.:D
 
Wacki you are right. you don't judge a book by its cover. Its been said that the K31 has a light kick but my K31 with GP11 ammo kicks more than my 03A3 does any day of the week. Its got a sharp kick to it, not a mule kick but a brisk, sharp kick. I am thinking of stripping down the birch stock and staining it a good medium oak. Ummm.. I probably name it Oaky.:D
 
Yes, the Swiss rifles are the best milsurp bolt action rifle out there today. And I caught the Swiss flu 4 years ago.:D
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I carry mine with me in my travels, for the occasion that I get time, and access to a range. This is all too rare though. :(
 
They are probably the most boring milsurp ever. They all look about the same, they have pretty much the same markings, they all seem to shoot about the same, and the sights seem to be dead on right out of the box. That being said, I have 4 of them, more copies of this rifle than any other model of rifle.

The only shortcoming is the lack of aperture sights. They have very good open sights, but if they were equiped like a garand or even an 03A3, they would be outstanding.
 
I love my K31, but the simple fact of the matter is that it does not have the camming power of other bolt action military arms, thus taking it out of the "best ever" running. It is an exceptionally good rifle, but it is not the best of all time. For military bolt action rifles, my own answer tends to lean towards the 03, but I also just got a swedish mauser in 6.5x55, and it was accurate and had a smoother action than the 03. Of course, those are just my opinions.

Finest doesn't necessarily mean funnest though. Of the three rifles mentioned, the K31 is my favorite to shoot, the most historically interesting (mine has the ID tag), and is the neatest. Plus, as you say, they are built extremely well.
 
Why doesn't anyone make straight-pull rifles anymore?

Edit: Forgot the straight-pull semiautolookalikes they make for UK shooters. I meant in the US, and I meant in normal bolt actiony type calibers and such.
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I called AIM a few days ago. They were out and said maybe about ten days they would be back.

Had my credit card out and everything!!!
 
Those Swiss rifles are fantastic. Accurate and my M1911 even though it weighs 10ibs and really long is so well balanced that it feels lighter than my Lee Enfields, Mausers and Mosins. Now they never be the best rifle out there and for combat have a few flaws but they are fine accurate lovely things easily capable of 1moa with standard surplus ammo. Not many rifles can claim to do that, let alone old military ones, many of which are older than their shooters grandparents.
 
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Why doesn't anyone make straight-pull rifles anymore?

The machine work on that rifle would probably put it in the 2-3k range. It's complex and very precise work. The only commercial straight pull I've seen recently is hideously expensive. The Blaser R93 series are straight pull rifles and seem to run from 4k - 12k in price.

http://www.blaser.de/Home.home.0.html?&L=1

Explains the rifle better, it's more of a system than just a rifle with some very nice features.
http://www.chuckhawks.com/blaser_R93_rifles.htm
 
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...and I can have them delivered, sometimes with serially matching bayonets made by Victorinox, right to my door.

OK, I've got the C&R...just tell me where I can get a matching rifle and Victorinox bayonet and I'm THERE. Seriously...who is selling that combo? I've been drooling at walnut-stocked K-31's for awhile...but the only ones I've actually seen have really beat-up stocks. A nice combo like that would push me over the edge.

Does it have a corkscrew?:D
 
Waki , I have 20 Swiss and many others, thanks.:D
Gromulin, Its rare to find a matching rifle and bayo combo, many Swiss kept the bayo's and gave back to the government there rifles. You can try Swissdaggar.com and see if he has one . Good luck.
 
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They are great rifles. The camming power of the bolt isn't an issue- just slam the bolt forward if you are worried about it.

I just wish the bayonets weren't so blasted expensive. I'd LOVE to have a bayonet for mine (especially a matching one), but they seem to cost almost as much as the rifles.
 
I was able to get a bayonet from AIM after they had pulled that from their web site. I doubt I will buy another one.
 
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