"it's just music, it's not like you're handing out AK-47s."

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http://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/story?id=1231684&page=1

Oct. 20, 2005 — Thirteen-year-old twins Lamb and Lynx Gaede have one album out, another on the way, a music video, and lots of fans.

They may remind you another famous pair of singers, the Olsen Twins, and the girls say they like that. But unlike the Olsens, who built a media empire on their fun-loving, squeaky-clean image, Lamb and Lynx are cultivating a much darker personna. They are white nationalists and use their talents to preach a message of hate.


Young Singers Spread Racist Hate
Known as "Prussian Blue" — a nod to their German heritage and bright blue eyes — the girls from Bakersfield, Calif., have been performing songs about white nationalism before all-white crowds since they were nine.

"We're proud of being white, we want to keep being white," said Lynx. "We want our people to stay white … we don't want to just be, you know, a big muddle. We just want to preserve our race."

Lynx and Lamb have been nurtured on racist beliefs since birth by their mother April. "They need to have the background to understand why certain things are happening," said April, a stay-at-home mom who no longer lives with the twins' father. "I'm going to give them, give them my opinion just like any, any parent would."

April home-schools the girls, teaching them her own unique perspective on everything from current to historical events. In addition, April's father surrounds the family with symbols of his beliefs — specifically the Nazi swastika. It appears on his belt buckle, on the side of his pick-up truck and he's even registered it as his cattle brand with the Bureau of Livestock Identification.

"Because it's provocative," explains April of the cattle brand, "to him he thinks it's important as a symbol of freedom of speech that he can use it as his cattle brand."


Teaching Hate

Songs like "Sacrifice" — a tribute to Nazi Rudolf Hess, Hitler's deputy Fuhrer — clearly show the effect of the girls' upbringing. The lyrics praise Hess as a "man of peace who wouldn't give up."

"It really breaks my heart to see those two girls spewing out that kind of garbage," said Ted Shaw, civil rights advocate and president of the NAACP's Legal Defense Fund — though Shaw points out that the girls aren't espousing their own opinions but ones they're being taught.


On that point, April Gaede and Ted Shaw apparently agree.


"Well, all children pretty much espouse their parents' attitudes," she said. "We're white nationalists and of course that's a part of our life and I'm going to share that part of my life with my children."



Since they began singing, the girls have become such a force in the white nationalist movement, that David Duke — the former presidential candidate, one-time Ku-Klux-Klan grand wizard and outspoken white supremacist — uses the twins to draw a crowd.


Prussian Blue supporter Erich Gliebe, operator of one of the nation's most notorious hate music labels, Resistance Records, hopes younger performers like Lynx and Lamb will help expand the base of the White Nationalist cause.


"Eleven and 12 years old," he said, "I think that's the perfect age to start grooming kids and instill in them a strong racial identity."


Gliebe, who targets young, mainstream white rockers at music festivals like this past summer's "Ozzfest," says he uses music to get his message out.

But with names like Blue-Eyed Devils and Angry Aryans, these tunes are far more extreme than the ones sung by Lamb and Lynx.

"We give them a CD, we give them something as simple as a stick, they can go to our Web site and see other music and download some of our music," said Gliebe. "To me, that's the best propaganda tool for our youth."


A Taste for Hate


Gliebe says he hopes that as younger racist listeners mature, so will their tastes for harder, angrier music like that of Shawn Sugg of Max Resist.



One of Sugg's songs is a fantasy piece about a possible future racial war that goes: "Let the cities burn, let the streets run red, if you ain't white you'll be dead."

"I'd like to compare it to gangsta rap," explained Sugg, "where they glorify, you know, shooting n****** and pimping whores."


Sugg shrugs off criticism that music like his should not be handed out to schoolyard children, arguing that "it's just music, it's not like you're handing out AK-47s."


Perhaps not, but Shaw says it's the ideas in the music that are dangerous.



"When you talk about people being dead if they're not white," said Shaw, "I don't think there is much question that that is hateful."


A Place to Call Home


Despite the success of Prussian Blue and bands like Max Resist within the White Nationalism movement, most Americans don't accept their racist message.



Like many children across the country, Lamb and Lynx decided to help the victims of Hurricane Katrina — the white ones.



The girl's donations were handed out by a White Nationalist organization who also left a pamphelet promoting their group and beliefs — some of the intended recipients were more than a little displeased.



After a day of trying, the supplies ended up with few takers, dumped at a local shop that sells Confederate memorabilia.



Last month, the girls were scheduled to perform at the local county fair in their hometown. But when some people in the community protested, Prussian Blue was removed from the line-up.



But even before that, April had decided that Bakersfield was not "white" enough, so she sold her home, and hopes that she and the girls can find an all-white community in the Pacific Northwest.
 
Songs like "Sacrifice" — a tribute to Nazi Rudolf Hess, Hitler's deputy Fuhrer — clearly show the effect of the girls' upbringing. The lyrics praise Hess as a "man of peace who wouldn't give up."

I saw this on ABC tonight. That song was hilarious, esp. since even Hitler decided Hess was completely insane after he flew to England with a bizarre peace proposal. What I could never understand was how Hess managed to survive the Night of the Long Knives with his scalp.
 
"I'm going to give them, give them my opinion just like any, any parent would."
I wonder, I wonder if there's an echo in that big empty space between her ears, her ears?

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These people hurt us. Anti-gun activists love to associate white supremicists with gun owners, because the urban stereotypes of the two are so close to one another in terms of "rural, survavalist" living.
 
I am all for understanding where you come from and your background and being proud of it. And sometimes when you are white that gets you a racist label (if someone wanted to set up a college fund for poor white kids only the NAACP would give birth to a three headed cow). But when you wave swastika's around and preach hate of other races, and glorify people who murdered millions that is wrong, and gives a bad image that isn't true.
 
Let me start off by saying I do not agree with thier message in any way shape or form and that I bet this thread is locked in rather short order.

That said, I also have to support their right to say/sing what they wish. Just like I fully support some hard core rapper to sing about killing whitey and f-ing his white ho. Same thing, both are hate filled and racially motivated and both are fully protected by the constitution.

I find it funny how people that want to be accepted for their views (the gun culture as an example) are somtimes too quick to judge other's freedoms as inappropriate because we do not agree with them.
 
Unfortunately, depending upon the part of the country you live in, many people equate gun ownership with the white supremacists, as Raven pointed out. I dstinctly remember being called a "Nazi scum" as I walked into a very small Central Ohio gun show on one occassion. When I saw the amount of Nazi and Confedrate paraphernalia being peddled at this show, I didn't stick around long.

Makes it important for us to differentiate gun ownership from racially motivated hate groups. From what I've seen around here, we're a very diverse group. If nothing else, I hope this thread points this out.
 
This is a pretty ghastly example of extremist prejudice - but then, there are many others, and the First Amendment exists to ensure that we can all voice our opinions. It doesn't mean that we have to agree with or support those opinions. ID_shooting is spot on with his comments.

Of course, extremists such as this can be used to give gun-owners a bad name... but then, many anti-gunners hardly lead exemplary moral lives (e.g. Ted Kennedy, just for a start! :barf: ), and they similarly tarnish their side. For that matter, alleged Christians who kill others in the name of their faith (e.g. the terrorists on both sides in Northern Ireland) are just as bad as Islamic fanaticists who kill in the name of Allah, and bring just as much discredit to their faith.
 
Disgusting message-and the music probably bites, too.

Still, I wonder how many 'hate-based' rap songs contain blatantly anti-white messages. Why isn't ABC featuring them, as well?

There is a two-tiered system for tolerating hate-based speech in America, like it or not. The 'n-word' can be thrown around hundreds of times in hip-hop music, but ONE utterance of it on a playground gets press. (Not to say you SHOULD be saying it on the playground-just pointing out the disparity.)

And I agree-we have a fundamental right to say what we please here in America. Even if it's hateful, even if it's stupid. I just think the rules ought to be applied fairly.

Larry
 
It's suprising how so many Americans are so willing to suppress free speech.

The best approach to any of these extremist views:

A. Pay ZERO attention to what they say and they will eventually go away.
B. Support RKBA just in case their crazy ideas take hold.

The whole Nazi thing just needs to disappear from lack of interest.

"Just a bunch of idiots folks...move along...nothing to see here."
 
http://www.nationalvanguard.org/printer.php?id=4330

The lovely and talented Gaede twins now have their own Web site...
by Ann Hendon
photography by Kelly Parsell
They're smart. They're sweet. They're pretty. They're multitalented instrumentalists and singers. They're twins. They're loving sisters to the new baby in the family. They beat neocon radio talk show hosts at their own game. They're just twelve years old. They make beautiful, soaring, harmonious music together -- music with a pro-White slant. They're the daughters of National Vanguard writer and activist April Gaede. And they are the most talked-about duo in the burgeoning Euromusic scene: They are... Prussian Blue.
Ok if you say sooooo!

I don’t think Sooooo.

Whats up with this group “IHR”? http://www.ihr.org/news/040426_conference.shtml
 
Abhorrent, for sure. I'll protest by not supporting them in any way!

Wonder how many of the MSM will decry the very existence of this material, yet will defend their soft porn (my own definition of some of their offerings) to the tune of, "If ya don't want to see/hear it, tune elsewhere!"
 
April home-schools the girls, teaching them her own unique perspective on everything from current to historical events.
Okay, now I see why ABC did this story. Gotta paint parents who don't want their children indoctrinated by the public schools as Nazi wannabes. :banghead:
 
Okay, now I see why ABC did this story. Gotta paint parents who don't want their children indoctrinated by the public schools as Nazi wannabes

Here in the Pacific Northwest, they paint homeschoolers as abusive, drug dealers. This, despite the fact that homeschooled kids routinely outperform their government school counterparts in academics. After all, we can't have the kiddies believing that they don't need a nanny state to do everything for them.

As for these 2 kids, hopefully they will be able to experience life outside of the influence of their looney parents and see that people are the same regardless of paint job.
 
This, despite the fact that homeschooled kids routinely outperform their government school counterparts in academics

So do drunk chimps with mad cow disease. :neener:

Seriously... I can't wait for the reality show.

Its funny, I see dorky white kids listen to kill whitey gangster rap and wear do rags. I wonder if rebellious black kids will listen to Prussian bleu.:evil:
 
*sigh*

Just out of curiosity, is this music more or less racist than the gangsta rap glorified on MTV, given Grammy awards, and used as the basis for a lifestyle?

I don't listen to gangsta rap and I won't listen to this stuff, but I'm not going to give them the attention and publicity they seek, either.

Ignore them, and they'll fade into the woodwork like hundreds of other musicians do every year.

LawDog
 
Ignore them, and they'll fade into the woodwork like hundreds of other musicians do every year.
That you think it's only hundreds probably speaks strongly as to just how far into oblivion they actually do sink.

That I have no idea whether it's hundreds or thousands supports the same thing. :)
 
Just out of curiosity, is this music more or less racist than the gangsta rap
Just as racist in my book.
Ignore them, and they'll fade into the woodwork like hundreds of other musicians do every year.
Musicians sure, but what about the movement? I mean isn’t that the same mistake we made with Hitler prior to WWII?
 
Musicians sure, but what about the movement? I mean isn’t that the same mistake we made with Hitler prior to WWII?

This is still America. They can sing about whatever they want, they can make speeches about whatever they want, and as long as they don't commit crimes against other people they are within their Constitutional rights to do so.

What is that old saying: "I do not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"?

There are probably half-a-dozen proto-Hitlers in the White Supremacy movement. As long as they keep their protests peaceful and don't initiate violence in their marches, they have just as much right to speechify, protest and march as does the Nation of Islam.

Now, if they want to pull a Kristallnacht then we'll throw their butts in jail.

But until then -- it's a part of living in a free society.

LawDog
 
+1 Lawdog.

It's amazing the number of people who forget that freedom protects "ugly" speech as well as "normal" speech.

Chris
 
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