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June Mail in Match for Fellow THR Members

Discussion in 'Competition Shooting' started by ReadyontheRight, Jun 1, 2003.

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  1. ReadyontheRight

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    Eight shots at Five charging Rhinos

    It could happen to you.

    You are exploring the far reaches of your local State forest, carrying your favorite weapon. You stumble upon an illegal rhino farm operated by crack addicts who mix powdered rhino horn in for their celebrity clients. They see you coming and sic five of their meanest rhinos on you.

    You can't run. You can't hide. There are no benches, trees or steady-sticks nearby, but you can shoot prone, sitting, on one knee, standing or however you would shoot your best unaided. No time limit (these are slow, but deadly and determined, rhinos).

    You only have eight rounds. 10 points for each shot inside a rhino target (you don't necessarily have to hit the rhino outline, just break a target line). 20 bonus points for hitting all five rhino targets. 100 possible points. The center dot on each rhino is the "X". Tiebreakers determined by "X" hits and then by scoring inside the rings.

    Post target at 50 yards.

    Rifle class -- 8 shots with any rifle or slug shotgun with iron sites.
    Scoped class -- 8 shots with any scoped rifle, pistol or slug shotgun.
    Pistol class -- 8 Shots with any unscoped pistol.
    Shotgun class -- You happen to have a shotgun along -- but only three shells. Only 3 shots allowed in the shotgun class.

    I will allow three entries again this month, so try a rifle, a pistol and your shotgun.

    El Rojo has worn me down, so beginning this month and from now on -- your HIGHEST score will count toward your yearly total. I will only allow three entries per person from now on. All must be in a different class unless otherwise noted.

    Download the target here from the great folks at www.mytargets.com:

    http://www.mytargets.com/target63 rhino x5.pdf

    Please write in your score since birdshot will be difficult to score.

    This month's target has no info on it, so please write in the following:

    www.TheHighRoad.org Member Name

    ____________________________________


    Class________________________

    Date_________________

    Weapon used___________________Caliber______

    Score _____/100 _____X

    Signature________________________

    Mail to:
    Mail in Match
    P.O. Box 24211
    Minneapolis, MN 55424-0211
    ENTRIES MUST BE RECEIVED BY 6/30/03

    Safe shooting and good luck!

    P.S. These are very thin-skinned rhinos, so one pellet of birdshot, a .22 or a .45-70 all count the same if they hit inside the target.
     
  2. DeputyVaughn

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    Looks like a fun target this month.

    Scott
     
  3. El Rojo

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    What a great target! This one should be fun! I don't know about using my Pistol on this one, but I got a few rifles I can use. And thank you for finally giving in to my constant nagging. I hope I reminded you of your wife, I figured that would get me some results! Either that or you were going to head into the reloading room never to exit again. :D
     
  4. photo_guy

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    Hey, these targets don't overlap this month!:D

    El Rojo - I think you should have to use a handgun on this target since you used a rifle on the pistol target last month.

    Unscoped pistol at 50yrds? Yikes!

    ROTR - I have no idea how you are going to score the shotgun class targets. That will be interesting.
     
  5. El Rojo

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    That wasn't a rifle. It was an improved pistol with a barrel over 6" in length.
     
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    "improved pistol"

    Oh yeah, I forgot.:p
     
  7. ReadyontheRight

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    Please be sure to write your THR member name, your Class and your score on the target!

    Our first attempt at a shotgun category should be interesting!

    Does anyone have any experience, stories or speculation as to what would be needed to REALLY take down a charging rhino? :uhoh:
     
  8. photo_guy

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    Take away his credit card? :D
     
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    Charging Rhino

    ROTR,
    Back in the 1950's (Iwas in the 8th grade-1958) I met a man who had just moved in an apartment nearby my parents house. His apartment, which he shared with his son (my new classmate) was packed with rifles, shotguns and pistols (more than most gunstores in the area). I found out later, that he was the civilian head of the Frankford Arsenal which was still going strong in those days. He had just returned from Africa where he had been on safari and had shot all the big game animals of the day. After he retired and moved away, he became an elephant control officer in some African country. All this leads up to that he had shot a charging Rhino and (obviously) killed it in the nick of time. He said (and I have no reason to disbelieve it), that he had killed it, while it was charging him and his "hunter" with an M1 Garand loaded with Gov't ball ammo, all 8 shots up his nose. Later on the man wrote articles for the "American Rifleman" and contributed to the NRA Handloader's Guide. Quantrill
     
  10. 280PLUS

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    man, them's some pretty tiny rhinys...

    out there at 50 yds, i can't see the dang things, i did manage to nick one of them though, with the bushy, open sights, figured the pistol would only make me feel worse...

    besides, i'd already been run over and horribly killed by the first five rhinos...

    :D

    duh, now that i'm looking around again i'm noticing the target i used didnt print the red,

    do you guys mind if i take another crack at it?

    i'll send you both targets for that one, just so's you can see

    later...nope, still not printing red:banghead: :cuss: :fire:

    is it ok to color it in by hand? or use post its?
     
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  11. ReadyontheRight

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    280Plus - No problem re-printing and re-shooting if you did not have the complete target printed. Is anyone else having this problem? Maybe try printing in black ink only. Coloring it in is also a good idea.

    I think this one's going to be all luck. I just hope to get all 8 shots on the paper.
     
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    How the heck am I going to hit a charging rhino at 50 yards with my P-32? I'm lucky if I can hit a paper plate at 50 feet! Maybe I'll have to break out the 22 rifle for this month.

    -Pytron
     
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    So here's my choice:
    I could pull out my new scoped Savage and know I will hit every shot, but be competing against people who will complain that they didn't strike the geometric center of the X, or I could use my snubby .357 and be lucky to hit the paper ...
    Hmmm.
    I'm thinkin' the snubby sounds like more fun. Or maybe the Savage at 150. Heh. Then I'd have an excuse as to why I barely broke the line.

    By the way, RotR, if you need me to host any targets, I'd be happy to do so. I know this one has a good host, but just for future reference.
     
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    chances are its my puter...

    it hasnt been the same since the great sbc/yahoo "update" or the printer wants red ink again, but i thought i just did that...

    as long as noone minds if i color it so maybe i got something to aim at i'll be ok

    i'm an old blind fart anyhoo,,,

    :rolleyes:

    but i was pickin' off the broken pieces of orange clay bird at 100 yds yesterday sooo,,,

    man is that fun!

    :D
     
  15. El Rojo

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    PROVE IT. Talk is cheap.

    I plan on using my Swedish 6.5x55 Mauser just for the fun of it. I probably ought to use my M1 Garand, M1A, or Swedish Mauser, but what the heck. That takes care of the rifle no scope class. Then I will use my 10/22 for the scope class. Forget the pistols. And I might as well shoot some slugs out of the 870P for the Shotgun class.

    The best thing about this month, we can shoot anyway we want as long as it is unaided. So to clarify, that means no bipods, no slings, no sticks. We can shoot prone, kneeling, sitting, or standing, but with nothing else attached to the gun right? I was getting tired of those standing only targets, they were too hard! :eek:
     
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    *laugh* Okay. You did understand I was saying I was confident that I'd hit the target each time and be competing against people who really knew what they were doing, not that I would be the one hitting the geometric center of the X, right?

    Will try to get out this weekend sometime.
     
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    ROTR - can you clarify the rules here. The range I go to does not have a set-up to allow shooting prone. Standing or sitting seems like a significant disadvantage to prone. Would a "simulated prone" be acceptable for this contest? i.e. no direct support for the firearm but shooter seated in a firing bay with elbows on the table? Or is that considered supported and not acceptable for this contest?

    Also, does a must a 'hit' be within the target rings or does breaking the Rhino outline also count?(like at the bottom area of the target.


    I just returned from vacation and I'm ready to give this latest challenge a try. I can see these contests are going to make me clean a lot of guns. I haven't taken the rifles out for quite some time.
     
  18. El Rojo

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    Cordex. Yeah I get it more now. Sorry. I don't know what is wrong with me.

    Personally, without a sling, I think I am going to shoot on my butt rather than prone. You can get into a pretty good lock with your elbows on your knees in the sitting position. From prone, I don't see it being as good. Then again, I might be wrong.
     
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    Correct.

    I'd prefer that you don't use a table. As El Rojo points out, you can get a pretty solid surface shooting seated with legs crossed if that works at your range.

    Breaking either the red target or the rhino anywhere counts as a "hit".
     
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    Thanks for the clarifications. Although you stated that in a nice way I will interpret that as a "no, it is not acceptable for this contest".

    I guess I'll have to try unsupported, standing as the primary range I use does not allow for other options.
     
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    If you used a table, I would think you would need to be required to shoot with your elbows on the table in order to be fair. I would think that I would be able to use my non-trigger arm nearly like a sand bag from a bench, but due to the ground being flat with no where to put your body below the plane, you wouldn't be able to do this without a table as your neck would be too kinked. Actually I just tried it from my typing desk and from the ground and doesn't seem to make too much of a difference without a gun. However, re-reading the rules it is pretty specific.
    Hard to argue with that one. No benches seems to mean no benches. If your range won't let you sit on your butt, then you might be stuck standing. Another option is to research other ranges in your area or even take a drive to see if you can't find a nice legal place to shoot however you want. That is easy for me to say where I live, you might have to drive 30 minutes to an hour! However, if you take enough guns, ammo, and friends, this is often quite worth the drive in order to do what you want in a safe manner. Plus I think you get points for getting new people to shoot the THR Postal match right? ;)

    Man I need to make plans when I am going to go shoot this one. Maybe after work or in two Sunday's. Fun fun fun!
     
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    No arguement. My question was answered by ROTR.

    I'm just trying to work around the set-up at ranges I have convieniently available. They have shooting bays with tables at mid-section height and no provision for shooting prone, seated, etc.

    There is another (outdoor)range I go to but it is an hour drive each way. I had hoped to try this target after our local IPSC match at that range this last weekend but we were rained out. Perhaps I will get out there this weekend.
     
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    Photo Guy -- I'll give you a break for your situation -- try the target standing and if you get a chance to get to a range where you can shoot prone, throw out your standing scores and send in the prone scores.

    It probably points out my inexperience, but I often score BETTER standing offhand than prone. I think it makes me think about the shot less. I also don't have a shooting jacket and all that fun stuff.
     
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    ROTR - Thanks. I suspect there must be others in the same situation. So, it should be a general rule rather than an exception IMO.

    I'm not that great of a shot either. No fancy equipment, etc. I am pretty sure I could do much better from prone that standing off-hand. Prone provides much more support as you have no choice but to use your elbows on the nice, firm ground. Holding a rifle steady off-hand is much more difficult for me, anyway.

    I'll see if I can try it both ways.
     
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    ROTR you are a good guy. I think these matches are great. I am getting out and shooting my guns at least once a month because of this. Without it, I don't know if I would make time.
     
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