Just got off the phone with Pizza Hut

[OF]

They got one from me.

- Gabe

 

[jamz]

Sent an email.

-James

 

[Boats]

Here is my submission to corporate headquarters:

Hello:

Thanks to this comment in USA Today: "Do you want your mail guy or delivery guy carrying a loaded gun when he comes to the door?" asks Patty Sullivan, a Pizza Hut spokeswoman. "What if he's not happy with his tip?" I will not be ordering any more Pizza Hut products.

I would not mind it were my delivery driver armed on the job. If he or she is carrying in accord with local law I have nothing to fear from them and would not even likely be aware that he or she had a gun.

Therefore, I shall miss your pizzas, but not nearly as much as I won't miss supporting the salaries of such immature corporate executives who spout such inane and ill-informed comments.

No one should be injured or killed over a pizza or some limited cash, but if anyone should befall that fate it should be the robbers your delivery drivers face, not your employees.

I think I shall press my state representative to lift the workers' compensation lawsuit bar and open the way for wrongful injury/death lawsuits against those employers which treat their employees as so much expendable fodder for the criminal element in our society.

Sincerely,

(Name Omitted)
Salem, OR

P.S. You can look me up on the North Lancaster Avenue Pizza Hut's computer here in Salem and see for yourself that my boycott will be no idle action.

 

[wdlsguy]

My letter

I just read an article in USA Today, where your spokeswoman, Patty Sullivan, is quoted as saying, "Do you want your mail guy or delivery guy carrying a loaded gun when he comes to the door? What if he's not happy with his tip?"

As a person who is licensed by Texas to carry a concealed handgun, I have no problem with a Pizza Hut delivery guy (or gal) legally carrying a handgun.

I do have a problem with companies run by anti-second amendment bigots however. Goodbye, Pizza Hut. Hello, Dominos and Little Caesars!

 

[taliv]

my note to them:

USAToday: "Do you want your mail guy or delivery guy carrying a loaded gun when he comes to the door?" asks Patty Sullivan, a Pizza Hut spokeswoman. "What if he's not happy with his tip?"

What a shame. I have been enjoying Pizza Hut pizza for decades, but no longer. It's bad enough to deny the basic right to self-defense to your employees who are robbed often enough that they're only allowed to carry $20, but to insult the hundreds of thousands of United States citizens who exercise their lawful right to carry a firearm is unacceptable.

Do you honestly believe your employees would shoot someone over a tip? I must say, that if that is enough of a concern that you would print it in the USAToday, then I certainly do not want any of them showing up on my doorstep, as that type of person will not be deterred from carrying a firearm by your corporate policy.

Love your pizza,

 

[71Commander]

The company that owns Pizza Hut also owns Kentucky Fried Chicken and Taco Bell.

 

[goon]

My response ...

I just wanted to let you guys know that I read the article from USA Today about the pizza delivery guy who used a gun to defend himself and was then fired for doing so.
What was the guy supposed to do? Did your company expect him to give his life for a pizza or a small amount of money?
I work at a gun shop and I sometimes carry a firearm. Most of the people I know also carry firearms and I don't think that I know anyone who doesn't at least own one. I have yet to hear about any of them killing anyone.
Any person, including a pizza delivery guy, would have to go through a pretty strict background check to be able to legally carry a firearm. Keeping that in mind, the people with CCW permits are probably about the safest and most responsible people that you could possibly hire, and I have no problem with them carrying a defensive weapon while they are performing their jobs.
BTW - in response to your spokesperson's comment about what would happen if a delivery person were carrying a gun and he didn't like his tip, I would say nothing would happen. An armed society is a polite society.
Contrary to the anti-gun myths that your spokesperson is helping to spread, gun owners are not just a bunch of ignorant, barefoot, trigger-happy nutjobs who drive around on Saturday nights looking for stop signs to shoot up.

 

[Atticus]

So.... employees who may kill over a bad tip are trusted to drive thousands of miles in cars while representing Pizza Hut?

 

[zahc]

did my part to flood thier inbox.

 

[IANALY]

1 more

I just shot one off through their website:

I suppose that today, Pizza Hut learned a great deal about not talking to the press about hot-button political issues. For my part at least, I think it’s an incredibly stupid policy for Pizza Hut to forbid drivers with permits to carry their self-defense weapons on pizza runs; if merely because the next time a permit holder gets mugged, Pizza Hut might just be subject to a lawsuit. However, I have a more personalized motive for writing today.

http://www.usatoday.com/money/companies/management/2004-12-09-guns-cover_x.htm

One of your spokespeople, Patty Sullivan, made an inspiringly doltish remark implying that licensed gun carry permit holders are the type to slaughter citizens in their homes for having received a poor tip. Or, alternatively, she made the equally ignorant implication that Pizza Hut hires delivery people who are likely to commit mass murder if slighted on the tip line. Either way, I don’t feel that economic consequences for such statements are entirely out of line.

I am a strong believer in non-regulation. I would not seek to have the government tell you whether you should allow or ban firearms on your premises, or for your employees. But I am also a strong believer in capitalism, which means I put my dollar where most people put their vote. You won’t be delivering any more pies to my place unless every other pizza place that delivers to me pops off in an equally ignorant manner.

Which begs the question, why, OH WHY, would your public relations spokeswoman sign on to be quoted in an article entitled “Companies who ban guns put on defensive� It seems like a time when a well placed “no comment†would have earned you a whole lot more revenue.

I own a gun, but I’m not a nutcase – if I saw a pizza delivery person being mugged, I would come to his aid rather than close my blinds and pretend it didn’t happen. People who go through the trouble to be licensed are people who want to do _good_ and _help_. People who plunk down hundreds of dollars and go through tens of hours of training to get carry permits don’t shoot others in the face for giving them a bad tip! The thought is preposterous, and the fact that Pizza Hut believes it to be true is, transitively, preposterous as well.

Done

 

[Powderman]

Another thing to consider:

If it were not for the attempted armed robbery and attempted murder of a pizza delivery driver, hundreds (if not thousands) of law enforcement personnel, servicemembers and others would probably have died, instead of surviving their encounters because they were protected by some of the best lightweight body armor in existence.

Look up the story of Richard Davis--the founder of Second Chance--and you'll see what I mean.

 

[Vitamin G]

I wanted to share my dismay at not only the lack of support given to Mr. Honeycutt, who was placed in horrible circumstance, yet had the foresight to take measures that ensured his own safety and his life.

In addition, due to the stereotype perpetuated by your representatives that gun owners are irrational madmen (Evidenced by the idea that a gun owner who happens to be a pizza delivery driver would kill indescriminately over a small tip), I can no longer in good conscience purchase Pizza Hut pizza. Stuffed crust is good, but the second amendment is better...

- (me)

 

[spartacus2002]

Sent.

 

[scromp]

<aol>

"Do you want your mail guy or delivery guy carrying a loaded gun when he comes to the door?" asks Patty Sullivan, a Pizza Hut spokeswoman. "What if he's not happy with his tip?"

What if I'm crossing the street in front of his car and he's annoyed at the wait? Is he going to run me down? Is this the kind of psycho you employ?

If the answer is no, which I suspect is the case, then I have no problems whatsoever with my delivery person carrying a weapon for their own protection. In fact, it would comfort me to know that they're not risking their life to bring me a pizza, or making my front porch a momentary target simply by being an easy mark.

This kind of mindless reflexive comment on the part of your spokeswoman does your company a great disservice. While I prefer your pizzas to those of your competitors, as a responsible gun owner who is trained and licensed by the state of Kentucky to carry a concealed weapon, I feel that I and my family must now look elsewhere for our almost weekly Thursday night pizzas, at least until I hear that Pizza Hut has developed a more enlightened policy towards its employees (and America's 80 million gun owners, as well.)

Thanks for your time.

 

[schromf]

Well I would like to be on this bandwagon, but it would be pure BS cause I already boycott Pizza Hut. They don't do anchoives and their pizza's suck in my opinion. Pizza isn't high on my foodgroups anyway.

 

[beerslurpy]

Call me captain concise- I wrote:

"Heard you guys were firing employees who carry firearms while delivering despite having valid CCW permits. I am hereby suspending patronage of your company. I no longer intend to use your franchises personally or for company events involving the ordering of pizza. "

I switched to Papa John's years ago, but they dont know that. Now I am boycotting their pizza on political grounds isntead of just because it sucks.

 

[Zundfolge]

I switched to Papa John's years ago

Papa John's has the same policies as Pizza Hut when it comes to the lives of their delivery people ... same thing with Domino's and any other large chain.


Find a local mom & pop Pizza place and patronize them ... they are the least likely to prevent lawful carry by their delivery drivers, and chances are you'll get better pizza anyway (or, go to Papa Murphy's and you'll get better pizza for less money ... you just have to bake it yourself)

 

[carpettbaggerr]

"What if he's not happy with his tip?"

So they'll just punch me in the mouth if they aren't packing a gun?

 

[Peet]

Cr*ppy pizza

schromf said:

> Well I would like to be on this bandwagon, but it would be pure BS cause
> I already boycott Pizza Hut. They don't do anchoives and their pizza's
> suck in my opinion. Pizza isn't high on my foodgroups anyway.

I gotta agree with that. One of the RARE upsides of living in the Peoples'
Socialist Republic is GOOD pizza even for folks like us who don't really
like it.

All the chains (Hut, papa gino, etc. etc.) are around the (commie) Univ
of M???????s, a real blue zone. Oddly, the red zone starts < 10 miles
away from there...just like the good and cheap food...

peet

 

[spacemanspiff]

yeah, i havent been able to bring myself to order a cardboard-tasting-pizza from pizza hut, dominos or any other major chain. theres lots of local piza joints that have far better pizza (Todays, sicilys) also if i had a choice it would be chinese over pizza, unless i got a 'buy one get one free' coupon.

 

[SLCDave]

I sent them my letter. No more Pizza Hut for me.

Powderman wrote:
Another thing to consider:

If it were not for the attempted armed robbery and attempted murder of a pizza delivery driver, hundreds (if not thousands) of law enforcement personnel, servicemembers and others would probably have died, instead of surviving their encounters because they were protected by some of the best lightweight body armor in existence.

Look up the story of Richard Davis--the founder of Second Chance--and you'll see what I mean.

And then Second Chance knowingly sold Zylon vests which proved not to be effective, and they resulted in the deaths of several law enforcement officers. The company knew about the issue, and in an internal memo directed their employees by stating:

"We continue operating as though nothing is wrong until one of our customers is killed or wounded,â€.

This is one of the reasons they were forced into bankruptcy.

Utah got a settlement out of them by filing papers stating that because the product was faulty, that services weren't rendered, and they demanded a refund.

<see http://kutv.com/gephardt/local_story_260144143.html for the local story.>

 

[hutch24]

I've been boycotting Pizza Hut for a long time now because it take an hour and a half for them to deliver a pizza and if it does make it, the pizza sucks anyway. My advice, go to the local smaller pizza joints, better pizza better service.

P.S. Spiff you ever go to Guido's for pizza?

 

[dustind]

i fired off an email. i sure wish that everybody else on this board will, too...

We are, we just do not have anything to add to the conversation. Well, actually I had a friend that managed a Dominos in a bad neighborhood. He had a few stories of attempted robberies. Some against one of his employees that used to live in a bad part of Russia that did not go so well for the criminals.