Discussion in 'Shotguns' started by Gelgoog, Jan 2, 2011.
Sign me up that thing is simply awesome!
This is a pump-action, not an auto.
Are you sure he wasn't talking about the Halo Manufacturing P-12, which became the Monarch P-12, which never was marketed but was rumored to have been purchased by Magpul?
20-round detachable magazine
I have to say, the P-12 was the stuff of dreams, but Kel-tec seem to actually have improved on the design, especially with the integration of M1913 rails. (I guess I can stand the loss of going from 20-rounds to just a paltry 14 )
That's why the 1st line says:
OK, ........I spelled automatic wrong
My list of guns to buy gets larger about half of the times I go to this website.
Hmm, April 1st already?
I like that Kel tec pushes the design envelope more than other manufactures. I just wish they built things a little better. I base that on the kel tecs I own.
Depending on the final price and the availability (is this going to be another RFB, years of shot show appearances and extremely limited availability after its release) it looks interesting. I'd prefer an auto but a pump could still be fun.
That was my first thought. I guess we will find out for sure at shot show. I want one though.
a keltec rep stated it would be about half the price of a RFB. So we can probably expect a MSRP of around $800.
Looking at the pictures of it, it looks like its got plenty of room for a gas piston and Saiga detachable mag with very little redesign required. Although that would make it an assault weapon, its doesn't look too hard to adapt. At least with a pump the rounds will always cycle.
Read through the thread on KTOG and found that in Reply #20 there is a rumor that once the pump is established that they'll bring out an auto-loader.
Not to sound like a luddite, because honestly I don't hate the bullpup design, but ...
What is the potential for catastrophic case failure in a shotgun vs. a rifle? Some people avoid bullpup rifles because they don't want their head that close to the possible explosion. Are there going to be a lot of people muttering about 12-gauge shells gone bad, and whether the Kel-Tec receiver can contain them?
Oh wowzers....that looks like an absolute blast.
Much less...that is why shotgun shells can be paper or plastic, rather than brass, aluminum or steel
Thank You Senator Schumer. We are so lucky you have you as a member here.
If they made a semiauto version that was reliable AND quick to reload it might be good for open class 3 gun. Or tactical class with a magazine plug.
Cool, another Kel-Tec that will be released soon and available to actually buy 3 years from now.
Look i love the fact that Kel-Tec is bringing out innovative products, but i have been waiting over 2 months for my PMR-30 order to be filled. Kel-Tec needs to get their heads out of their nether regions and really start pushing production.
Does it eject lefty friendly or in a lefty's face?
Doesn't accept 3in shells.
Bushmaster, its lefty friendly. They use a bottom ejection system for the shells.
Unfortunately, in NJ we are only allowed 6 round magazines in a semi-auto shotgun
Its not a semi-auto, its a pump.
People waiting on their RFBs have no sympathy for you, they have been waiting a lot longer than 2 months lol.
There. fixed it for ya.
Want one. ASAP.
I don't even OWN a shotgun right now...
I don't understand Kel-tec, they have to be making money, why don't they expand their manufacturing facilities? Surely if they don't want to front the cost some investors would.
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