Landlord vs. reloading bench

[Mauserguy]

As a landord, I would not rent to you. I don't want anybody even thinking about welding on my property.

I don't allow water beds, candles, satelite dishes (I don't want temporary people drilling holes in my walls or roof) and I don't allow on site businesses (I don't want trucks coming and going to annoy the neighbors). As mentioned above, you really need to buy your own home.
Mauserguy

 

[Arkansas Paul]

It seems strange that I could have a room converted to a satanic alter and I am protected under religious freedom but they can drop my lease over a reloading bench...

Doesn't seem strange to me.
Your choice or religion doesn't involve storing quantities of gunpowder and melting lead.

Now it wouldn't necessarily bother me if I were your landlord (reloading that is), but that is not a valid comparison.

State laws vary on landlord/tenant relations. Here in Arkansas it is very slanted to favor the landlord. Your state may be different.

 

[morcey2]

Your choice or religion doesn't involve storing quantities of gunpowder and melting lead.

You haven't been to a satanic altar recently, have you.

 

[Arkansas Paul]

As a landord, I would not rent to you. I don't want anybody even thinking about welding on my property.

I don't allow water beds, candles, satelite dishes (I don't want temporary people drilling holes in my walls or roof) and I don't allow on site businesses (I don't want trucks coming and going to annoy the neighbors). As mentioned above, you really need to buy your own home.
Mauserguy

When I first read this I thought, "How silly."
But then I realized that it is not silly at all. The home is your investment and your source of income. Like you mentioned it is merely a stopping off point for the people renting it but when they are gone, you will still be the owner.

So I very much see your point of view.

I had a landlord that had the satellite dish rule. He didn't care if you had satellite, but it had to be on a pole, not attached to the house in any way. It makes sense.

 

[Arkansas Paul]

You haven't been to a satanic altar recently, have you.

I haven't. But if I were I wouldn't be any more concerned than if I were around someone who believed in Zues or Thor.

 

[GoWolfpack]

Have to agree. Every month you are building equity when that payment goes to the bank.

And in order to access that equity you have to sell a house. Which is not easy or free.

I've owned my house for five years. I could have rented a nice place for the amount I've paid in interest and moved whenever I felt like it rather than being tied to one place and having to do all my own maintenance.

On paper I have approximately $25K in equity built up in my house. When I spoke with a realtor about selling, I realized the process would cost me virtually all of that.




OP: Carefully read your lease. Your landlord cannot terminate your lease unless you're doing something that is prohibited by the terms you agreed to prior to moving in. They cannot change the terms of your lease mid-stream.

If you are violating the terms of your lease by reloading, stop immediately.

 

[tnelson31]

If you are violating the terms of your lease by reloading, stop immediately.

I would bet money if that was the case, he'd be evicted already.

Like another has said, look forward to your lease not being renewed. There is no discrimination (in the eyes of the law) present in their refusing to rent to you based on your hobby.

 

[thefish]

And in order to access that equity you have to sell a house. Which is not easy or free.

Depends on the location. 2 of the homes I own are in an area where the days on market is 1-2 days, and selling price is usually 10% over asking. As far as it not being free, you can sell a house yourself for very little. A few hundred bucks for title work. That being said, if you hire a professional, you should get more, and have no hassles

I've owned my house for five years. I could have rented a nice place for the amount I've paid in interest.

True, but you are writing off your the interest on your income tax, right? That's one of the benefits of owning vs. leasing.

On paper I have approximately $25K in equity built up in my house. When I spoke with a realtor about selling, I realized the process would cost me virtually all of that.

That's Crazy. You need to speak to another realtor. You can bargain a 2% realtor fee, unless you are talking about repairs that need to be done to make it sellable.

However, renting is a more viable option for some. But you do have to play more by someone else's rules.

 

[oneounceload]

Never seen a realtor fee for 2%; around here it is 7%(and up as the price goes up); but it is still a better option than what the OP has. I moved all my reloading stuff into a bedroom so I could reload under heat/air - much nicer than the garage. If I was into casting, it would be outside away from the house, garden and pool.

Interest rates are about at their lowest, property values have rebounded somewhat, but not in all areas. We have homes here selling for well under what they cost 10 years ago at the height of the crash

 

[Arkansas Paul]

There are also closing costs to consider, which often come out of the seller's pocket. Not always, but often.

 

[ms6852]

I would never ever use such an explosive device such as a propane tank for BBQ, you are making it very difficult for us who only use charcoal or wood to continue to BBQ and smoke our ribs and brisket, how %$#@^%^ dare you!!!!

 

[readyeddy]

Ease up a bit. Dealing with a landlord is like haggling in a swap meet. They will try to bully you and push you around.

Wait for the letter. Until they send you a letter telling you that you are in default of your lease, there is nothing in play.

If they send that letter, then go find a lawyer.

 

[Arkansas Paul]

ms6852, how dare you attack my right to propane and propane accessories.
This is Murica and I can use whatever heat source I want to. It has nothing to do with what I "need".

You keep on and I'm going to open carry my propane bottle up and down your street to demonstrate my rights.

 

[cosmos7]

I don't allow water beds, candles, satelite dishes

FYI it is illegal to prohibit satellite dishes per the FCC. You can prohibit damaging mounting (there are guidelines for what is considered damage), but you cannot outright prohibit satellite.

 

[LemmyCaution]

You keep on and I'm going to open carry my propane bottle up and down your street to demonstrate my rights.

You do that, especially dressed in those dirty size XXL/S BDUs, and before you know it we won't be able to cook with anything more powerful than an easy-bake oven with an LED bulb.

 

[dragon813gt]

Right. That's why I pictured a cabinet expressly designed for flammable materials. But you're so smart…

The cabinet you posted is not the correct storage container for powder and primers. I suggest you read up on the NFPA guidelines. At the end of the day you need to know what your local fire code is because that's what determines how you are supposed to store them.

Here are links to SAAMI's recommendations which are taken from the NFPA.
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...hoTufZkNwsqawDWJRtcHd8Q&bvm=bv.67229260,d.cWc

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...zadzCFu59cz_ZE_wThuSe9w&bvm=bv.67229260,d.cWc

 

[Arkansas Paul]

You do that, especially dressed in those dirty size XXL/S BDUs, and before you know it we won't be able to cook with anything more powerful than an easy-bake oven with an LED bulb.

Good freaking grief Lemmy.
No one is trying to take away your propane bottle. We're just saying you can't have high capacity propane bottles. You can have the small green Coleman ones that go on cookstoves. No one needs a 20# propane bottle to cook a steak.


Wait a minute, now I'm arguing the other side. Crap I don't know what I believe anymore.

 

[Scooter22]

There have been many sugestions on buying a house. Don't forget the maintenance and TAXES depending on where you live. You can own a house but the taxes never stop and if you get far enough behind on them your local friendly government will seize it and sell it and your SOOL. Something to consider.

 

[larryh1108]

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Their house, their rules. The new lease may have specific wording which bans all types of hobbies which could include reloading or storage of explosive or flammable products or devices. They may not be able to kick you out now but they could add verbage to your next lease to ban all of your fun projects. Their house, their rules

Not so. The binding rules are what is written into the contract.

Okay, I highlighted what you obviously missed. Some times it helps to comprehend what you read before making a counter statement.

 

[MtnCreek]

There have been many sugestions on buying a house. Don't forget the maintenance and TAXES depending on where you live. You can own a house but the taxes never stop and if you get far enough behind on them your local friendly government will seize it and sell it and your SOOL. Something to consider.

I see you're located in NYS...

 

[rdhood]

When I reloaded in an apartment, I took my Lee press and affixed it to a 3/4" ply base about 2'x2'. Then, I would clamp it to the "bar" area in the apartment and reload. When done, I would unclamp it and put it away. Set up or tear down was performed in under a minute. This was done more to keep the girlfriend/wife happy than the landlord, but it certainly kept me under the landlord's radar.

Even in my current home, my press is STILL affixed to that exact same 2'x2' piece of ply, and clamped to my workbench. It has been there for 6 years.

You can fight your landlord/management company, or you can be stealthy. A chip on your shoulder does you no good. I suspect your lease renewal is going to have a few extra "conditions" now, if they offer one at all.

A few final words: In an apartment, I consistently chose stealth mode when it came to firearms. You have people coming in at various times to do maintenance, and who is vetting those people? A bunch of reloading gear screams "rob me". Heck, a bunch of any kind of nice stuff screams "rob me". So keep your jewelry, guns, ham radio equipment, scuba gear, what have you, out of sight and out of mind.

 

[Arkansas Paul]

When I reloaded in an apartment, I took my Lee press and affixed it to a 3/4" ply base about 2'x2'. Then, I would clamp it to the "bar" area in the apartment and reload. When done, I would unclamp it and put it away. Set up or tear down was performed in under a minute. This was done more to keep the girlfriend/wife happy than the landlord, but it certainly kept me under the landlord's radar.

I just moved into an apartment and will likely be there for a few years, at least until I'm out of school. I need to do something like this. I could used a plastic milk crate or a 5 gal bucket for powder, primers, bullets, scale etc. and just have it in a closet.

A few final words: In an apartment, I consistently chose stealth mode when it came to firearms.

This was one of the first things I though of when I knew we were moving in. I took all of my long guns but one to my dad's house. All I took to the apartment was the 12-gauge pump and the handguns, which are stashed in non visible places. No doubt if someone broke in they would probably find them, but they would have to look for them.

 

[ATLDave]

NOT LEGAL ADVICE:

Just an idea, but if the landlord comes back and continues to express concern about gunpowder, offer a demonstration. Go outside, somewhere paved and fire-proof. Pour a small amount of gunpowder onto a fire-proof surface. Light it. Lots of people think gunpowder is explosive, and are surprised to see it merely burn (when not under pressure). Pour a similar amount of some other flammable substance - lighter fluid, turpentine, gasoline (watch out!), maybe even grain alcohol (high proof only) - and demonstrate that the flame is not more energetic than some fairly common liquids. Then get some dryer lint and light that.

Then be prepared to tell the landlord what steps you take to prevent a fire (not explosion, you've just demonstrated that to be a non-issue) from occurring... primarily, keeping any heat source separate from flammable materials, including gunpowder.

Try to approach it all from a "I understand why you're concerned, let me show you what the actual situation is and let's see if you feel better" perspective.

 

[ewlyon]

Well you had more trouble than I did. I rented a one room apartment while going to school and the apartment was technically on campus, in Illinois to boot. I made about five calls between the rental agency and the campus police before I finally got straight answers from both that it was okay to have a gun in the apartment. Still had to deal with the rental agency saying that it made them uncomfortable and they were worried about me shooting through walls.

 

[Jason_W]

When I reloaded in an apartment, I took my Lee press and affixed it to a 3/4" ply base about 2'x2'. Then, I would clamp it to the "bar" area in the apartment and reload. When done, I would unclamp it and put it away. Set up or tear down was performed in under a minute. This was done more to keep the girlfriend/wife happy than the landlord, but it certainly kept me under the landlord's radar.

Even in my current home, my press is STILL affixed to that exact same 2'x2' piece of ply, and clamped to my workbench. It has been there for 6 years.

You can fight your landlord/management company, or you can be stealthy. A chip on your shoulder does you no good. I suspect your lease renewal is going to have a few extra "conditions" now, if they offer one at all.

This.

Just store your powder and primers out of sight. They may be able to inspect the apartment, but they won't have the right to go digging through storage containers, crates, chests, etc. If asked, tell your landlord that you're now keeping all those nasty flammables at a friend's house. Reload at night with the blinds drawn.