Not sure if you are talking to me or not. Can't see where I am taking any of this personally.
I do have a problem with people talking out the wrong end about subjects they know nothing about: no matter the subject.
If you do a search on this board, you will find countless posts about Front Sight making attacks on every aspect of it other than their firearms instruction, including frequent and blatant attacks on the man's religion. This particular subject (this lawsuit) has never come up before (that I have seen). The other numerous threads were personal attacks for other reasons. If you research these threads you will only find one (that I remember) person that ever actually took a class there who didn't think the class was terrific. The one guy I remember that had a problem with it had a problem because he didn't want to shoot from the Weaver stance and this school teaches the Weaver stance. That was his big complaint.
Put very simply, this is a shooting/firearms related board. But the firearms instruction has never been an issue. It was personal attacks on the owner of the school. I don' t care about the owner of the school. I don't care about their legal dealings, their religion or any other personal issue. If the owner of Gunsite, Frontsight, Thunder Ranch, .................... have some kind of personal issue, I don't care. I am going there for firearms instruction.
Something that I found interesting about Frontsight, that might be worthy of a little thought for others: The way Frontsight got off the ground was two fold. One was the free Uzi classes. For several years they gave totally free one day Uzi classes. From what I understand from several people who actually took this class, it was a real class. Not just letting them fire one magazine: it was a full day of instruction with subguns and it was totally free. How many people do you think did that, that wern't even gun owners prior to the class ? The other method was giving away these course certificates that are either sold for a discount, or given away. Between these two methods of attracting business, they attracted thousands of people who actually went there, and took a class. They were impressed enough to either buy a membership or tell their friends to go.
So many people were so impressed by their first class that when you attend a class there now, there are HUNDREDS of students almost every weekend. There are a whole lot of people who don't buy into the crap posted on this board because unlike most of the people here, they went there themselves and really liked what they saw. Not just a few dupes but thousands of people. If you think Piazza is such a bad guy, tell me what you did to further the cause of personal firearms ownership that attracts hundreds of people a weekend, at least some of which arn't even gun owners. How many new shooters learned good safe gun handling at Frontsight ? How many soldiers and law enforcement officers trained there alongside civilians (which IMO creates a postive bond between police/military/and private citizens) ? The last time I went there there were probably a dozen Marines getting ready for their second deployment to Iraq. The day after 9/11 Piazza was offering free training for pilots...............................
Not many people are doing anything even close for R2KBA and none of the others are being publically attacked on what is supposed to be a pro-gun forum. Does the guy have faults ? I am sure he does. Does the school have faults ? Yes, I know this from personal experience. Does this give us the right to make public attacks on the man or the school ? Not in my opinion. Hell, just one more example: I work as a professional firefighter in Las Vegas. Several years ago, Frontsight offered one FREE four day class to any local firefighter. We are talking about several thousand people that were offered the chance to go and learn good safe gun handling in a very postive environment and get a little taste of their rights: some of whom were not gun owners prior to this offer. If he converted five people over to voting for pro gun candidates, that is more than most of us will ever do for R2KBA. When I have taken classes at Gunsite, the class seemed to consist of a bunch of LEOs, a few active duty military, and a couple plain old civilians like me. At Frontsight, it is just the opposite, it attacts a totally different group of people. They have military and LEOs, but most of the people there are civilians. In the 4 day classes that I have taken, there have always been more than a few people that had no idea of anything having to do with firearms: they were complete novices. Some of them rented guns at Frontsight to take the class. Think about that. If he takes a couple people every weekend and takes them from complete novice to a safe and responsible gun owner and does that for year after year, is this a guy that we should tar and feather as American citizens concerned about our gun rights ?
By the way, FWIW, I have never see Piazza. He has never been at the school when I was there, or at least I didn't see him there.
