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Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by .455_Hunter, Nov 12, 2008.

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  1. .455_Hunter

    .455_Hunter Member

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    This guy has been watching way too much South Park: "Look Out, Its Coming Right For Us!"

    I will always support someone defending themselves from an aggressive dog, but a black lab with a stick in its mouth- come on! :uhoh:

    If you are that afraid of dogs, maybe you need to stay home and not venture out on a off-leash National Forest hiking trail. :banghead:


    Hunter Charged With Shooting Hiker's Dog
    Deputies Say Hunter Thought Black Lab Would Attack


    POSTED: 5:33 pm MST November 11, 2008
    UPDATED: 6:25 pm MST November 11, 2008

    DENVER -- A Wisconsin hunter is being charged after deputies said he shot and killed a dog while hunting in Eagle County.

    Lee Jensen will be charged with criminal mischief for recklessly discharging a firearm, the Eagle County Sheriff's Office said.

    Nathan Schroepfer was hiking up Lake Creek Trail with his roommate's chocolate Lab on Nov. 5 when the dog veered off. The dog was about 15 feet away, with a stick in its mouth, when it approached Jensen, deputies said.

    Jensen told deputies that he was afraid for his life when he saw the dog and that's why he shot it, said sheriff spokeswoman Shannon Cordingly.
     
  2. Bailey Boat

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    I can comment about people like that, it would get me banned...... Wonder what he would have done if Bambi accidentally wandered by?????
     
  3. KeithET

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    Most likely he mistook the dog for a dear ( it happens ) and shot it. When he discovered his mistake he tried to cover it up. Trigger happy hunters are my biggest fear when I go hunting.

    KeithET
     
  4. BBQLS1

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    I smell something funny.
     
  5. Mike2

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    Ignorance abounds........:fire:
     
  6. cassandrasdaddy

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    aren't the off leash areas still "strict voice control"
    i am a dog nut but try not to forget not everyone else is. and my 90 pound best friend scares more than a few folks. and yes that is my problem if shes loose. perversely its my lil cute dog that bites
     
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    Since when can you shoot a dog in your presence with no provocation?
     
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    Does anyone know a "Dangerous" black lab? We've got a 90 pound MARSHMALLOW here. :rolleyes:

    Closing the action on my AR makes him run out of the room.
     
  10. cassandrasdaddy

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    mine is a lab husky cross and if you say the word gun she hides. but she scares folks shes big and i go to great lengths to keep her safe as a result.
     
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    I've got a 90 pound chocolate lab and the only thing he endangers is the big bag of kibble. That is unless you have a bad fear of slobber or having your crotch sniffed.

    I always let him run free on the trail ahead of me when I take him for walks in the woods. If anyone ever decides to shoot him "out of fear for their lives":rolleyes:, I might just get scared for my life as well.
     
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    The chocolate labs I know only vibrate constantly and lick.
     
  14. Carlos Cabeza

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    I raise labs and they will definately kill a tennis ball !

    I have had the occasional "biter" but for most they are VERY DOCILE..........
     
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    "I have had the occasional "biter" but for most they are VERY DOCILE.........."

    could you as a breeder tell us how to tell the difference with a strange dog moving towards us? for someone who is not into dogs?
     
  16. The Bushmaster

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    Well I guess that the lab was going to beat him to death with that stick. More then likely beat him to death with his tail waggin ferociously. And if the dog is 15 feet away I would say that was still under voice control...How close was the hunter when this happened? And he couldn't tell the owner to back the dog off or "was it mean?"

    IDIOT!!!
     
  17. cassandrasdaddy

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    you were able to glean many more facts than i was.... whats your secret?
     
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    The only way I would shoot a dog is if it was either ready to pounce on me, or is already biting me.

    Bang.
     
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    A dog can certainly hear its owner at distance well over 100 feet, which happens to be alot farther than 15 feet. ;) The dog had a stick in it's mouth, it wanted to play and this idiot didn't identify his target (which is hunting rule #1) and shot this poor dog.

    "It was going to hurt me" Right, Lord knows there is nothing more dangerous than a Labrador with a stick in it's mouth.

    Odd that he thought it was a deer (or whatever he was hunting), but later he said he felt he was in danger. He felt threatened from something that he didn't know what it was? Moron.
     
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    I'm OK with letting dogs run off leash on trails, but I have trained mine to always stay behind me.
     
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    Don't assume he even saw the dogs owner. Could be he thought the dog was alone and he shot it just because he could.
     
  22. Carlos Cabeza

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    To be honest, I could not tell you how to tell the dog would attack.

    A lab is a very smart animal but hardly predictable.

    I would say hair raised on spine and tail, crouched stance and fixed eyes on its target.

    I will say NEVER run. Stand your ground and maintain eye contact. Then hit the dog in the head with the butt of the gun............:D
    J/K

    If I were the dogs owner, I would be very upset, but I cannot say how someone else might react to my dogs behavior.

    I only go hunting with the dog/s that are the most "people friendly". You never know who you will meet in the field.

    I will tell you of the DNR officer who got his hand bitten trying to pet one of my dogs.........:what: Luckily, he was as smart as I hoped......;) 'cause I thought I was going to JAIL !:eek:
     
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    ^^ Quite possibly :fire:
     
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  24. Seenterman

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    Dumb hunter

    I routinely pass big dogs daily much closer that 15 ft away from me and I am not in fear of my life. I dont know what difference a leash would make if a dog decieded it wanted to take a chunk out of me, what drag the dog off me along with the chunk of my flesh in its mouth? YaY!

    What happened to a swift kick to the head? Hell the dog wasn't even in kicking distance, trigger happy dumb dumb.
     
  25. mp510

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    I don't think there is enough info to really make the good shoot/bad shoot call. 15 feet might not seem close, but remember, it is only 5 yards away. We know what people can do within that space (and how quickly). Dogs can do the same (and probably worse). We don't know exactly what the dog was doing when the hunter shot- maybe it was showing aggressive behavior. Just because some of you folks have labs that are gentle doesn't mean they are all that way. About a deacde ago, I was bitten (on the theigh), unprovoked by a neighbor's black lab. The dog literally came out of no where, and bit without provocation. Even if the dog that was killed was usually tame, we mustn't forget that it is an animal and that animals are by nature not truly predictable.
     
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