Mexican candidate says U.S. must liberalize immigration

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Mexican candidate says U.S. must liberalize immigration

BY MICHELLE MITTELSTADT

The Dallas Morning News

WASHINGTON - (KRT) - While Mexico has enhanced security since the Sept. 11 attacks, future cooperation hinges on U.S. willingness to liberalize its immigration policies, former Mexican Foreign Minister Jorge Castaneda warned Congress on Tuesday.

Castaneda, who is running as an independent in the 2006 presidential race, said security must be twinned with what he called the "whole enchilada" - legalization for the 6 million Mexicans living here illegally, visas for Mexicans desiring to come here in the future, and economic development for impoverished interior regions responsible for the exodus.

"There can be no future cooperation beyond what already exists without some form of immigration package," he told the Senate Foreign Relations Committee during a border security hearing.

Just as immigration is a volatile topic in the United States, Castaneda said the idea of enhanced U.S.-Mexican cooperation on security issues, such as military-to-military involvement, is "very, very sensitive" to Mexicans.

"It is not easy for any Mexican government to move forward on that," he said. "It can be done in a package. If it's done in a sort of salami-type arrangement - slice by slice - I'm not sure it's going to work."

But Sen. Christopher Dodd, D-Conn., pointed to the difficulties inherent in enacting a massive immigration-and-security package and instead suggested that both countries tackle measured "confidence-building" steps.

"I can't agree with you that we have to do this in totality," Dodd said. "As a practical matter, it's just very difficult to anticipate Congress adopting large comprehensive proposals."

The Senate Judiciary Committee on July 27 will consider rival proposals that would create guest worker programs for many of the estimated 11 million to 12 million illegal immigrants of all nationalities already here.

One, by Sens. John McCain, R-Ariz., and Edward Kennedy, D-Mass., would provide a path to citizenship after six years as a guest worker. The other, being drafted by GOP Sens. John Cornyn of Texas and Jon Kyl of Arizona, would require the guest workers to return home when their visas expire.

Both bills include enhanced border security measures but fall short of the expansive framework advanced by Castaneda.

The former Mexican official, who resigned from President Vicente Fox's Cabinet in 2003, acknowledged that Mexico must do more to crack down on organized crime gangs operating with near impunity along the Southwest border. He also spoke of the need for Mexico to control its southern border, which Central Americans and other foreigners cross en route to the U.S.

"More and more people in Mexico today understand that our southern border has to be brought back under control," he said. "We are having enormous problems with the Salvadoran gangs, the Mara Salvatrucha, in southern Mexico. We are having enormous problems with prostitution (and) drugs on our southern border."

The United States is confronted with a rising wave of foreigners using Mexico as a platform to cross illegally into the United States, Border Patrol Chief David Aguilar testified.

The Border Patrol is on pace to apprehend 148,000 non-Mexican illegal immigrants this year - nearly twice the 75,000 arrested last year, he said. As many as 4,000 non-Mexicans arrested this year are from Saudi Arabia, Syria, Iraq and other countries known to harbor terrorists, said Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Dick Lugar, R-Ind.
 
While Mexico has enhanced security since the Sept. 11 attacks, future cooperation hinges on U.S. willingness to liberalize its immigration policies, former Mexican Foreign Minister Jorge Castaneda warned Congress on Tuesday.
The Senate Foreign Relations committee should have tossed him out of the building and had him escorted to the border the moment he took that threatening tone.
 
So basically - "What we need is US policy to help us get rid of the people we don't want either! Oh and our cooperation fighting terrorism depends on you taking them too!"
 
How about we just declare all citizens of Mexico to now be U.S. citizens? Along with that, we militarily invade Mexico and assimilate it into the Union. That would solve the immigration problem right off.

As for Jorge Castaneda, he can just [Art's Grandma would blush]
 
Nope. I've seen Mexico and I didn't much care for it, which is part of the reason I'm pissed about millions of Mexicans dragging Mexico here with them.
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Jorge and his like deserve to be sent home in no uncertain terms. He has no manners and is confused. :neener:

I'm trying to remember the history, but when did Old Mexico ever fight on the same side as US in any war?

About 1906, the last Captain of the Arizona Rangers, Cpt.Tom Rynning had the blessing of the mayor of Agua Prieta when the mayor raised the American flag in that city. Cpt.Rynning invaded Mexico to stop the mining riots*. He had the will of the Mexican people to go all the way to Baja and claim it for the United States. The Mexican people were fed up then and this was just before the Mexican Revolution.
( *Mexican Federale Gen. Kosterlitski couldn't get there fast enough to suit Rynning.)

Today go to Nogales Sonora, 1 mile south of the border to the residential back streets. You will need 4wd low range to get up some of the side streets. Notice the white cotton in the bushes and trees, that's toilet paper and sanitary napkins blowing in the breeze. No flush toilets, a bucket and dump it twenty feet from the slump block room that is someones house. They have electricity, just screw in the light bulb to turn it on. Across the canyon you'll see fine hacienda's with swimming pools and high fancy iron fences.
Go back down the hill and notice the Federales walking around with full auto battle rifles and submachine guns. The local police might have there old revolvers on in worn leather holsters.
Oh yea, keep an eye out for the Mexican merchant half dragging 4 pillow cases full of Mexican pesos, thats probably about $400 dollars in our wallets.

Lets see Mexico clean there own house before we feather dust ours.
 
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Question is when the US becomes like Mexico will Canada build a wall or just
let there country go down also. :banghead:
 
"There can be no future cooperation beyond what already exists without some form of immigration package," he told the Senate Foreign Relations Committee during a border security hearing.
I can't say what came to mind when I read this. But it starts with an "F", and ends with a "you."
 
Don't you know King George has to do what his Boy Friend Fox wants him to do. Come now over 4000 per day just walk into our country. You really think King George cares about the safety of our country? You really believe the war in Iraq is to stop terrorism?
 
You really think King George cares about the safety of our country? You really believe the war in Iraq is to stop terrorism?
Nope, not anymore. I did at first. I really wanted to believe that Bush was a good man, who cared for the safety of our Nation, but that isn't the case. He is like all the rest.
 
I really wanted to believe that Bush was a good man, who cared for the safety of our Nation, but that isn't the case.
I disagree. I think that he believes what he is doing is in fact for the good of the country. I would also say that some of it is, but most is not. Bush's biggest problem is that he wants to please everyone, and ends up pleasing no one.
 
Bush is doing what's good for his clan, which includes two Mexican nationals by birth, at least, numerous business ties south of the border, and what God, speaking pure Castilian Spanish, tells him is "the right thing to do." He's certainly not doing what as many as 80 per cent of the citizens of this country want him to do.
 
Lets see Mexico clean there own house before we feather dust ours.
One of the reasons V. Fox and his elitists want to export his own population is to vent the social pressure building because of the rampant corruption of the society. Notice those who flee to the US are not the ones living high up on the hog. It is the poor. Those who maybe worked the land up until they had to compete against American agribusiness. Maybe it was those who had factory jobs that went to Taiwan, then China, then Singapore, then India, etc.

By allowing unrestricted immigration from Mexico (and eventually other central and south American countries) Bush and other elites in the US are venting social pressure which would have gone to a productive purpose like revolution and destruction of the old order. It keeps the Mexicans from dealing with their problem in their own way and instead puts the day of reconing off to some point in the future.
 
If only we would fix this problem it wouldn't be a political issue for them.

This is a HUGE threat to our security and we need to fix it for our own interest and future.

Oh, and then we need to start telling the Mexican gov't what to do in our next election :evil:
 
Jorge Castaneda......Isn't that the short bald guy on Seinfeld? :neener:

Oh yea, I find his attitude and comments deplorable. A Mexican Presidential candidate to the United States of America threatening this country for the betterment of his native country. We should strap his butt to a south bound horse with a burr under the saddle and fire a gun. That or get him a 68 Pimpala and make him Chief Lettuce Picker.



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Sure just as soon as Mexico decides to become 51st state and abide by our laws and constitution. Untill then lets hire the USSR to build us a wall and man it like they did in Berlin. :cuss:
 
Despite the Mexico-US wall idea being harsh, i think it would work. Isreal is doing it, and they've since seen a decline in the "unwanted" of suicide bombers. Why doesn't the Mexican candidate just say "hey, invade and conquer us--that way, we'll be American citizens, and that's what we want to begin with" :scrutiny: ? Of course, I assume that some political faction would cry foul for either the wall (stopping immigration), or invasion (stopping immigration). Just my .02, now where's my flame suit.........
 
...Bush and other elites in the US are venting social pressure which would have gone to a productive purpose like revolution and destruction of the old order. It keeps the Mexicans from dealing with their problem in their own way and instead puts the day of reconing off to some point in the future.

I don't understand why Mexicans don't revolt. For that matter, I don't understand why Cubans don't revolt.
 
We have the most mobile military the planet has ever seen. We have the most sophisticated elint mankind has ever created. We have fused the battlefield to the point it LOOKS like a video game.

We are now faced with an invasion and our solution is to build a wall. Sheesh. Israel's wall works because of the short length and high density of inhabitants.

Why not use our mobility and technical capability to harrass and interdict sticks of criminal aliens as they enter the US. Use our special operations capability to disrupt CA's staging areas. Create uncertainty in the badguys mind as to their success. Make them change their tactics and routes into the US. When they move to another area to set up shop, we move to the area and start it all over again.

If we can do it in Afghanistan on the border and in Iraq on the Syrian border (and we are) why in the hell can we not do precisely the same thing in the US. Oops! Silly me. We have the will in the stans and Iraq. We don't have the will here. Please note that what I suggest is exactly what the ragtag group of vigilantees called the Border Militia did to the consternation of Bush and his "What, Me Worry" elites.
 
Why not use our mobility and technical capability to harrass and interdict sticks of criminal aliens as they enter the US. Use our special operations capability to disrupt CA's staging areas. Create uncertainty in the badguys mind as to their success. Make them change their tactics and routes into the US. When they move to another area to set up shop, we move to the area and start it all over again.
Because that would make too much sense, and would actually do the job.
 
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