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AlexanderA said:
Actually, these "buybacks" (a) waste the antigun resources, and (b) channel that money into better guns.

"Never interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake."

If the antigunners want to bankrupt themselves doing these stupid schemes (paying above market for junk guns), let them. Get rid of your junk guns and with the money, buy better ones.
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I see no evidence this is anything but a tax dollar funded event.
 
My only experience with buybacks aka taxpaper compensated confiscation is sitting outside a few looking for good firearms being brought in that I want. I have saved a few firearms from government greed. Owners tying to get rid of guns will always take 100 in cash vs 100 gift card. Sell your 10/22 private sale and it keeps the government from saying 'got another deadly weapon off the streets."
 
AlexanderA said:
Most of these are funded, directly or indirectly, by antigun organizations, not by local governments.
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Actually, the last one of these events I knew of in my region was attended by a couple guys I know. The cops that worked the event were getting paid and, I believe, some on OT (time and a half). And the county paid all the expenses.

Here's a link to a fairly balanced article about a recent GBB up here (and check out the pics and list of guns turned in):
https://mustreadalaska.com/king-cou...h-shows-these-events-have-no-effect-on-crime/
 
I have a couple of old top breaks that are unshootable and not worth teying to make them so. They were given to me by a guy I worked with. For a couple hundred a piece, there would be a new handgun in my future, or more ammo for the ones I have.
 
The anti-gunners choose their words carefully. They say "buyback" but they really mean takeaway. And it's not junk guns they are after, it's all guns. They also want it to be a commonplace idea where citizens hand over firearms to them, normalizing the idea and action. Perhaps even "grooming" us for the idea of gun forfeiture.
 
Zahn said:
The anti-gunners choose their words carefully. They say "buyback" but they really mean takeaway. And it's not junk guns they are after, it's all guns.
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Well, it's not a "takeaway" as long as it's voluntary.

Two kinds of guns get turned in at these events:

The first are junk guns. What the event does is create an "arbitrage" market. Since, in these cases, the event pays more than what the gun is actually worth, the rational response is to sell it, and use the money to buy a better gun, ammo, or whatever. The net effect is to better arm the gun community, thus working directly at cross-purposes to the intent of the sponsors.

The second type of guns turned in are those owned by hoplophobes: little old ladies that inherited their husbands' guns and don't know what to do with them, etc. Since these guns are unlikely to be used in the first place, the net effect on the "gun violence" problem is zero.

In either case, the antigunners are wasting their money. We should encourage them to do so.
 
wayneinFL said:
Most of these I have seen are run by police officers on volunteer time, with gift cards donated by a corporation like Walmart. Do you object to your Walmart dollars being used for someone else's profit?
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Police officers on volunteer time LOL, not saying it couldn’t happen around these parts, just that it hasn’t yet. We work closely with the local PD, and while myself and my employees volunteer time, the PD are ALWAYS paid.
 
The only one of these I've been to, my wife sent me to to dump a 25 cal pocket gun her mother bought decades ago, never touched and eventually gave to us to store. The wife wanted the grocery card.

I appeared to be surrounded in line by law abiding gun guys mostly 50-plus, hunters, shooters, maybe some LEO, all like me dumping crap they'd been holding for a buy back. One or two acted like they knew the cops over seeing the event well.

The evening news I think didn't try to pretend they disarmed gang bangers. A lot of them don't try to keep up that charade anymore. They know everybody can see where the guns are coming from. The fantasy that the crips and bloods are in line with AKs and Mac 10s was shattered long ago.

Now They say they got unwanted stuff off the street and out of homes that "could have" eventually fallen into criminals' hands some way or another. Maybe by getting stolen.

Bunch of happy 50 year old gun guys taking a grocery store gift card home to the wife with new space cleared in the safe for another gun or ammo.

When her Dad passed we pulled a few bolt and break action long guns from His attic in varying states off disrepair since established to be value-less and we'll do the same with them. But yeah for my better stuff i think I'd rather hold it and tinker to make it more fun to shoot than hand it in for 200 for melting down.
 
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Sometimes you may just have to do the ridiculous to put an end to these government or corporate sponsored events. Like the guy in Utica who printer lots of “ghost guns” for big bucks. I see no issue in turning in a junk firearm to get funds to buy a new one.
 
For a $300 buyback? I’m gonna buy a dozen of the cheapest Junior Rossi .22 rifles for $120 and make money.
 
I wish I lived there, I have a half dozen ratty old .22s and single shotguns I’d love to get off the streets (and use the proceeds toward a shiny new weapon of war to keep the evil gun industry afloat.)
 
I remain troubled by those of you that believe that you can blithely participate, for your own perceived benefit, in such events even though they are dedicated to fostering a pure anti-gun/anti-gun rights agenda.
 
I’d never advocate for having such an event but if they want to waste their time and their donors’ money having an event, the most responsible thing to do is to ensure that their money is spent on paying good gun owners for unserviceable junk, and keeping valuable or collectible firearms out of their clutches.
 
Mosin77 said:
I’d never advocate for having such an event but if they want to waste their time and their donors’ money having an event, the most responsible thing to do is to ensure that their money is spent on paying good gun owners for unserviceable junk, and keeping valuable or collectible firearms out of their clutches.
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New Mexico will eventually get wise. My hometown only offers $50 for junk guns.
 
Mosin77 said:
I’d never advocate for having such an event but if they want to waste their time and their donors’ money having an event, the most responsible thing to do is to ensure that their money is spent on paying good gun owners for unserviceable junk, and keeping valuable or collectible firearms out of their clutches.
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That's right. Most of these events run out of cash (or gift cards) fairly quickly, so go early with your junk guns so that when the valuable or collectible guns arrive -- whose owners are not so savvy -- the event sponsors have already run out, packed up, and gone home.

(Might be worth hanging around so that if you spot a late-arriving collectible gun, you can make them a cash offer. Use the cash you just got for your junk guns.)
 
roval said:
would anybody do a buyback?
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Hmm, have the .gov give me back a tiny portion of the money I have sent to them, with the goal of disarming me?

I’ll pass.

I’d send them a bunch of new 10/22’s every year if they would take them in trade for the other taxes they get out of me though.
 
I'm not tempted in the least. Buybacks are for criminal types who are unlawfully in possession of firearms, or for non-gun folks who come across dad's or granddad's guns in the attic, and don't have any interest in them.

Buybacks aren't for law abiding gun owners.

Participating in these buybacks is sleeping with the enemy.

If you have old broken junk guns laying around, break them down and sell the parts for the benefit of fellow gun owners who are restoring old guns.

Criminetly! Don't legitimize flawed, wrongheaded anit-gun programs.
 
the principal behind a gun buyback is only one step away from a mandated confiscation. Personally - no amount of cash for a buyback would get me to trade in. Unless I could pass some kind of nerf or airsoft or garbage can fabrication one off on it - for an egregiously massive profit enabling me to purchase a quality firearm as a result. maybe that's hypocrisy though.
 
"Preachy?"

That's what we do here, mostly.

Ironic that so many presumed Second Amendment stalwarts lose sight of their principles when it comes to even a minor financial reward.
 
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