Ok my department is now allowing us to use personal firearms for duty use and due to a reason issues we have faced I am looking at a .308 caliber bolt gun with a 18-20" barrel. I want the most accurate system out to about 100yds with a decent trigger. Any suggestions I know about the 700 SPS but know I will also need to spend about the price of the gun on the optic so trying to keep the rifle under $800.
Most Accurate Bolt Gun for LEO Use
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Mike1234567
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So you're going to spend your own money rather than have the dpt buy your duty firearms?
Kachok
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Savage, FN, Sako and AI all have solid reputations at varying levels of price. Remington used to be a top choice as well but QC issues are eating their lunch right now, I would wait for CCM to sell them off before buying a new one.
Weatherby Vanguard Series 2 are guaranteed to shoot sub-MOA. The synthetic runs about $500.
http://www.weatherby.com/product/rifles/vanguard_2/carbine
They also make a Threat Response model, but that's going to run about $1,000.
http://www.weatherby.com/product/rifles/vanguard_2/carbine
They also make a Threat Response model, but that's going to run about $1,000.
CarJunkieLS1
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Any quality bolt action rifle will do what you need it to do. I agree with staying away from remington the rifles they put out today are not what they were 10 years ago. A .308 Winchester is an inherently accurate cartridge that is light on recoil also. Will your PD let you make your own ammunition? If they do then with enough testing it won't be hard to make any quality rifle accurate. I suggest a Tikke T3 lite easy on the pocket book very accurate and a lite package to carry around.
redneck2
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I have two CZ's, a .22 and a .204 Ruger, and both are exceptionally accurate. Both have the single set trigger. I'm sure there are CZ's that don't shoot well, but I've never heard of one.
As noted, there are quite a few factory rifles that will do what you need. I'd look thru the used guns at any local shop. Wish I'd have seen this about two months ago. I traded in a Savage bolt that shot sub 1". I think I got $300 credit and it was nearly unfired.
As noted, there are quite a few factory rifles that will do what you need. I'd look thru the used guns at any local shop. Wish I'd have seen this about two months ago. I traded in a Savage bolt that shot sub 1". I think I got $300 credit and it was nearly unfired.
pardiniman
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Tikka T3 Lite SS 308
1" moa @100 garanteed
any of the Tikka' s are good $$$$ value
1" moa @100 garanteed
any of the Tikka' s are good $$$$ value
Art Eatman
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I wouldn't get too carried away about scopes. Charles Whitman center-punched a guy near me, using a Weaver K-4. I stepped it off, later. 420 yards.
Heck, 7X is plenty nuff for prairie dogs at 300...
Heck, 7X is plenty nuff for prairie dogs at 300...
The Tikka would be something to look at in your budget, but to get the barrel length you want it would have to be cut.
Something else to consider is the Savage Hog Hunter. It has a medium heavy 20" barrel with iron sights. Is threaded for a supressor if you ever decide to go that way. The blind magazine could be an issue. It is the same basic rifle as the Precision Carbine. Look under specialty series for the hog hunter, Law enforcenemt series for the Precision Carbine.
http://savagearms.com/firearms/models/
I wouldn't rule out the Remington either. They have had issues, but the foundation for a great rifle is there and even with their issues most turn out just fine. Plenty of options for better aftermarket stocks, etc. in the future.
Something else to consider is the Savage Hog Hunter. It has a medium heavy 20" barrel with iron sights. Is threaded for a supressor if you ever decide to go that way. The blind magazine could be an issue. It is the same basic rifle as the Precision Carbine. Look under specialty series for the hog hunter, Law enforcenemt series for the Precision Carbine.
http://savagearms.com/firearms/models/
I wouldn't rule out the Remington either. They have had issues, but the foundation for a great rifle is there and even with their issues most turn out just fine. Plenty of options for better aftermarket stocks, etc. in the future.
Something like this with the 40X trigger might work for you.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=370599159
Remington will tell you when a rifle was built if you call customer service with the serial number.
Winchester Stealth rifles are good also. As are FNH Patrol rifles.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=370599159
Remington will tell you when a rifle was built if you call customer service with the serial number.
Winchester Stealth rifles are good also. As are FNH Patrol rifles.
yzguy87
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If I was in your shoes I would look at the Savage 10 precision carbine. I have never seen a bad review for one (not saying Savage is perfect). Also I have first hand experience with a Savage 10 fcp-k that was great.
The precision carbine fits you criteria and I'm confident that it would be reliable too.
The precision carbine fits you criteria and I'm confident that it would be reliable too.
bayjoe
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I would shop for a 1970's or 80's Remington model 700 VS. They will do anything you need.
rayatphonix
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I got a new Remington 700 SPS Tactical for under $600. Once I found the load it likes, it'll shoot less than 1" groups at 100 yards all day long. 1/2" groups if I'm on my game. I adjusted the trigger and am very happy with it. I've got several Tikkas and while they are my preferred hunting gun, they don't shoot any better than the SPS. Maybe I got lucky but in any case, I'm very happy.
blarby
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If you could spend a teency bit more, Ruger has some exciting accuracy...and now, Removable high cap magazines !
You actually have a use for tacticoool.... And the scout is very durable, and quite compact- great for your application.
I think the scout screams tactical urban use, not just brush.
You actually have a use for tacticoool.... And the scout is very durable, and quite compact- great for your application.
I think the scout screams tactical urban use, not just brush.
I certainly wouldn't spend a bunch on a scope, if you're only going to be making 100-yd-max shots. Take a look at the excellent Bushnell Elite series. I have one with mil dots, but that's irrelevant for 100-yd shooting.
If you can get a Tikka with the barrel length that you want, then get a Tikka; otherwise, any of the others mentioned will work fine for you.
If you can get a Tikka with the barrel length that you want, then get a Tikka; otherwise, any of the others mentioned will work fine for you.
redneck2
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Don't know what you consider "a bunch", but two things that could be highly important in this situation are holding zero and clarity in poor light. Those are notorious poor points of low end scopes.
I would agree with the Elite suggestion. I have two, and they should fit the bill. IMO, the new Leupold VX-3's are significantly superior in clarity.
Centurian22
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I'll vote savage. I have been very happy with my Axis XP in .308 and have gotten 1" groups at 100 yards with Sierra Gold Metal Match. For 'duty work' I would probably upgrade to the model 10 or 110 though I believe those are 20", that hog hunter might not be a bad idea either. Look over the savage web page to check out all the different options and see what fits your requirements.
BSA1
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First of all why are to coming to a general forum for something as important as a LEO sniper weapon?
The key points I would for are synthetic / gas bedded stock and a crisp adjustable trigger.
Also I disagree with the comments about not investing in a high quality scope. This is why coming to a non LEO forum is a bad idea as most posters don' t understand how small the margin of error is in a hostage situation. Your rifle is going to take a real beating bouncing around in the trunk of your car everyday and it is going to take a high quality scope to hold it's zero.
The key points I would for are synthetic / gas bedded stock and a crisp adjustable trigger.
Also I disagree with the comments about not investing in a high quality scope. This is why coming to a non LEO forum is a bad idea as most posters don' t understand how small the margin of error is in a hostage situation. Your rifle is going to take a real beating bouncing around in the trunk of your car everyday and it is going to take a high quality scope to hold it's zero.
i'm wondering why someone who may be deployed in a sharpshooting/sniper role even needs to ask about equipment.
what equipment did you train/qualify on? what is your background/experience in this role?
and yes, even though you are likely to only see shots under 100yds, and most any rifle capable of moa accuracy will do, your glass need to be up to par. cheaping out on the scope simply because you aren't taking long range shots is a bad idea.
what equipment did you train/qualify on? what is your background/experience in this role?
and yes, even though you are likely to only see shots under 100yds, and most any rifle capable of moa accuracy will do, your glass need to be up to par. cheaping out on the scope simply because you aren't taking long range shots is a bad idea.
Surly your department has a list of approved firearms for duty use. It may cover a range or weapons but they should have a list. Unless we are talking about a tiny department.
If the department doesn't have money to arm you, what else doesn't it have money for??
If you get a 700, make sure its before they went to that horrible X-Mark Pro Trigger. I have a 700P (police) and I can shoot it sub MOA at 600 yds, Im no pro by any mean either.
-Robb
If you get a 700, make sure its before they went to that horrible X-Mark Pro Trigger. I have a 700P (police) and I can shoot it sub MOA at 600 yds, Im no pro by any mean either.
-Robb
Hummmm, personal weapon for duty use? This is a personal opinion but the Savage Accutrigger is best out there and their rifles are known for being accurate right out of the box. If allowed I would opt for the 243 Winchester as caliber, very flat shooting, excellent range 600 meters and beyond and super accurate ammo available for it.
What is strange is that unless you are a member of a swat team, your duty AR should be sufficient for most encounters that you will come upon.
As to scopes, the Vortex Viper or Mueller are excellent scopes but pricey. Also you will need to spend about $125.00 on a decent case to protect the rifle and scope while in transit.
Jim
What is strange is that unless you are a member of a swat team, your duty AR should be sufficient for most encounters that you will come upon.
As to scopes, the Vortex Viper or Mueller are excellent scopes but pricey. Also you will need to spend about $125.00 on a decent case to protect the rifle and scope while in transit.
Jim
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