Most accurate out of the box bolt rifle?

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Jspy,
Whats the price range on the rifles you listed above?
I thought the question was, "What's the most accurate rifle, out of the box, with iron sights?"
What should/could/would be considered thee most accurate bolt rifle, out of the box, iron sights only (no scopes), on the market today?
No reference to price at all.

To answer this question in a useful way, we need data:

1. quantified accuracy results with a variety of match-quality ammunition (a rifle that shoots 5 types of ammo 1/2 MOA could be considered more accurate than one that will only shoot one type to that accuracy)

2. accuracy results from a large set of groups fired, not ignoring the poor groups once in the experiment (it's easy to cherry-pick groups which do not represent the average performance of the rifle)

3. a representative sample of each rifle, ie test results from a few of them. (if you can grab 5 rifles off the rack and they all shoot the same loads to 1/2 MOA, this model has more consistent accuracy than a model where some shoot, and some don't)

4. expert opinion (e.g. in the form of, what factory rifles are used in formal competition)


Furthermore, if we want to throw price into the mix, we still need that raw accuracy information. Otherwise "accuracy per dollar" can't be evaluated because we don't know the former term.


Without any sort of focus or rigorous thinking about the subject, we end up with another "I like rifle X" thread.

You can probably coax 3/4 MOA out of most modern factory bolt-action rifles, but it might take a little work in bedding or reloading. This is more than enough for most applications. Match and varmint shooters often want better accuracy.
 
I suppose I just don't consider a rifle to be out of the box (mass produced, etc.) when it's got a hand-lapped Schneider barrel like the Tubb 2000.

spotter1.jpg


"Here's David's 600 yard spotter...

There's a story on this: David shot a practice 600 yard match at his ranch range and hit his THREE-INCH spotter 23 out of the 40 shots he fired. And, yes, the other 17 also went very, very near to it."

www.zediker.com/tubb/tubbgun.html

Open sights, too. :)
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"was there a 20' neon flashing arrow pointing at it"

I'll answer a question with a question.

Q: How do you get to Carnegie Hall?

A: Practice, practice, practice.

www.davidtubb.com/about_david.html

"David Tubb is arguably the best, and winningest, competitive rifleman in history. He has won (to date) a record eleven NRA National High Power Rifle Championship titles at Camp Perry, Ohio. That's five more than next best. In addition, David is an NRA Silhouette Rifle legend, having won nearly 30 open, individual national championship titles in all four rifle categories. David has also won seven Sportsmen's Team Challenge championships along with six NRA Long Range Rifle (600-1000 yd.) national championships."
 
Based on the type of targets High-Power match shooters use, it was probably at the center of a large bullseye, surrounded by a large "buff" region to provide high contrast (and contain the lower scoring rings). I think the black region of the target is usually 4-5 MOA in diameter, ie about 36" @ 600 yards. A three foot black dot on a light colored background at 600 yards is not hard to see. A consistent sight picture on a 3' dot can produce 1/2 MOA groups (ie, 3" @ 600).
 
Doesn't the "Contender" Hold the World Record?

Last I heard, the world record at 500 yards was held by T/C's "Contender" pistol. Now, I know this thread is about rifles, but my point is that both the Contender pistol and the Contender carbine have the same accuracy guarantee: 1" or less at 100 yards. My T/C's, Contenders and Encores, have all bested that accuracy and then some.

My favorite iron-sighted firearm is my SA M1A "Loaded". I used to fire my M1a "Loaded" at an considerable distances, at non-paper targets until I became bored to death. It held that degree of accuracy round after round, cold barrel or hot barrel made no difference.

But, whatever rifle one likes, we seem to be blessed in America with some dandy firearms.

Edited to add: The T/C Contender pistol's 500 yard group measured 1" by 3.5" The woman at T/C told me it was fired with iron sights.

Doc2005
 
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