mzmtg
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I usually do conceal. But, I didn't have any kind of cover garment to throw on. I open carry in this store a couple of times a week on my way home from work. The staff doesn't seem to care.
My First run-in with an anti while open carrying
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engineer151515
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Something like that would work well printed on a business card.
Just hand it to the offended party.
Maybe have a quick reference to your State's relative carry laws - Ord # blah blah... on the bottom/back of the card. They can go home and look it up.
Might make for a nice THR project - to come up with the wording for said card. You can print them up easily on your home computer/printer.
Horsesense
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“Why are you carrying your weapon in here?”
several reasons, primarily for protection but also as a political statement.
Political statement?
Yes, during the last century over one hundred million unarmed civilians were killed by government troops. And Seeing as how this century began with UN troops raping unarmed women and children in Africa, I carry this gun openly to symbolize the utopia this world could be, if all people everywhere could enjoy their right to keep and bear arms.
several reasons, primarily for protection but also as a political statement.
Political statement?
Yes, during the last century over one hundred million unarmed civilians were killed by government troops. And Seeing as how this century began with UN troops raping unarmed women and children in Africa, I carry this gun openly to symbolize the utopia this world could be, if all people everywhere could enjoy their right to keep and bear arms.
sturmruger
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It sounds like you handled things well. If you really wanted a reaction from her you should have asked her out on a date. 
Mannlicher
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open carry, while very high in testosterone valule, is not very often a good idea.
CajunBass
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I don't bother to cover up when I'm jumping in and out of the car a lot, pumping gas, or doing my courier job and so on. I've never even had anyone so much as glance at me, so I don't actually know if they don't notice, or don't give a hoot. If anyone ever asks, here's my answer.
Why are you carrying a gun?
Because I want to.
Why are you carrying a gun?
Because I want to.
Hokkmike
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Lots of things unnerve me about some people, but I don't approach them on it.
I am all for what you do.
I saw a guy carrying a large frame revolver outside an Agway (farm supply store) in town. It was conspicuous. Immediately, thoughts go to the judgment of the guy. It's not so much of "does he have the right" as "does he have the brains to know when is the right time to use the thing".
But it is his right, and I don't question him about it.
For my part, like I said I support you, I would choose to be more inconspicuous. But, that is also a part of my personality.
I am all for what you do.
I saw a guy carrying a large frame revolver outside an Agway (farm supply store) in town. It was conspicuous. Immediately, thoughts go to the judgment of the guy. It's not so much of "does he have the right" as "does he have the brains to know when is the right time to use the thing".
But it is his right, and I don't question him about it.
For my part, like I said I support you, I would choose to be more inconspicuous. But, that is also a part of my personality.
Sidewinder
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Concealed Carry
I live in Colorado in a high mountain town where crime is almost unheard of, but when I go down into Denver I carry a Springfield XD45 or a Sig 2034 .40, both firearms being concealable with some effort. I purchased a number of vests from 5.11 which allow me to carry on my belt or in the vest itself with total
concealability. They have build in stiffeners in the vest for a velcro holster and are very long which hides the belt holster perfectly. Great for those summer days where you would look rather suspicious wearing a heavy jacket or have bulges all over with a lighter garment. Just a thought . Saves dealing with the firearm phobia which so many in left leaning cities have. Btw, another rejoinder I have used is such situations, is ... Oh, I am sorry, I did not know you have a phobia about firearms... you do know that
such unreasoned fears are curable, don't you ? I would be happy to give you some references to help
you deal with your phobia."
I live in Colorado in a high mountain town where crime is almost unheard of, but when I go down into Denver I carry a Springfield XD45 or a Sig 2034 .40, both firearms being concealable with some effort. I purchased a number of vests from 5.11 which allow me to carry on my belt or in the vest itself with total
concealability. They have build in stiffeners in the vest for a velcro holster and are very long which hides the belt holster perfectly. Great for those summer days where you would look rather suspicious wearing a heavy jacket or have bulges all over with a lighter garment. Just a thought . Saves dealing with the firearm phobia which so many in left leaning cities have. Btw, another rejoinder I have used is such situations, is ... Oh, I am sorry, I did not know you have a phobia about firearms... you do know that
such unreasoned fears are curable, don't you ? I would be happy to give you some references to help
you deal with your phobia."
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Two possible reasons for the business card:
1. She thought he was a cop or the like, and planned to scrutinize the card carefully as some sort of proof that he had "the right" to go around scaring respectable citizens like that. She's a taxpayer, after all, you know?
I don't think this is all that likely; she'd have asked for a badge instead.
2. Much more likely, she thought he was some sort of professional who had the gun for professional reasons, and she was trying to be as neutral as she could until she got the card. Once she had it, she planned to call his department or company and give his boss a long butt-chewing and describe how his employee had frightened her to death by brandishing his pistol--possibly while making unwelcome romantic advances.
1. She thought he was a cop or the like, and planned to scrutinize the card carefully as some sort of proof that he had "the right" to go around scaring respectable citizens like that. She's a taxpayer, after all, you know?
I don't think this is all that likely; she'd have asked for a badge instead.
2. Much more likely, she thought he was some sort of professional who had the gun for professional reasons, and she was trying to be as neutral as she could until she got the card. Once she had it, she planned to call his department or company and give his boss a long butt-chewing and describe how his employee had frightened her to death by brandishing his pistol--possibly while making unwelcome romantic advances.
TallPine
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You want me to leave it out in the pickup where someone could steal it?
yy
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tallpine, good one.I think a 30-second response will do you proud. Something like this:
"You are very brave to face your nervousness, ma'am. And I appreciate your non-judging approach. I carry to protect >unarmed?< friends, family, women and small childen. this weapon is on my person because I'm being responsible in controlling it."
then upon further protest, or reference to the open carry, ...
"Open carrying might scare off crooks, or it might get me shot first, either way, open carry protects you from robbers."
"What if _I_ don't want your protection?" - or similar smart arse remark
"I'll keep that in mind, but you still have to tolerate open carry because it is my first amendment right to a political statement and my second amendment right to bear arms"
Vitamin G
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I would have loved to handed her my business card....
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mzmtg
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Deanimator
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Funny, the State of Ohio disagrees. In fact they REQUIRE it when in an automobile.
mzmtg
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Mannlicher said:
Yeah, I was dodging bullets and gun grabs from at least a dozen bad guys who were trying to either steal my gun or "shoot me first."
It's also high in comfort & convenience value.
HankB
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I'm flattered that you'd like to engage my services, but I'm not in that line of work."
Jorg Nysgerrig
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I find it very strange she used the word weapon instead of gun or pistol.
Model520Fan
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mzmtg,
Very well handled, in my opinion.
BTW, could you tell from her speech whether she was a native or a transplant? Both the business-card routine and her pushiness in questioning a stranger on his personal business sound very suspicious to me.
TIA
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Very well handled, in my opinion.
BTW, could you tell from her speech whether she was a native or a transplant? Both the business-card routine and her pushiness in questioning a stranger on his personal business sound very suspicious to me.
TIA
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CNYCacher
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Jorg said:
As do I. Sounded like she knew a little more than she was letting on.
DKSuddeth
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If she was truly that unnerved by the sight of a gun being worn openly, she most certainly would not have approached you. Her real intent should have been obvious, trying to place the holder on the defensive, as if you needed to justify why you wear a gun.
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