New Kel-Tec Bullpup Rifle

[Stiletto Null]

A pair of 1/16" steel sheets/plates, apparently. So there's stuff in between.

That would be enough to stop pieces of blown-up case, and considering how kabooms generally work, that would be plenty to stop a (relatively) slow-moving bolt group, which would be moving toward your shoulder (against recoil spring force, too) anyway.

 

[Mumbles_45]

As far as I know, there are six WA-2000s in existence.

And one guy has all of them.

From Wikipedia:

The rifle was produced from the late 70s though November 1988 when production was ceased due to high production costs. The final retail cost for a base rifle in 1988 was in the range of $9,000 to $12,500.

176 units were produced with only 15 units of the WA 2000 exported to the U.S., 11 of which are owned by Earl J. Sheehan Jr., President of Walther U.S. and due to its rarity it can be worth over $75,000 to $80,000 in the open market.

 

[geekWithA.45]

{looks @ PDF}

Eh. dunno. Maybe.

{shrugs}

 

[Lobotomy Boy]

The only thing I'd add would be folding back-up iron sights.

That's the one negative thing I saw about the gun, too. It would be easy enough to mount an A.R.M.S.-type rear sight, but I'm not sure how (or where) you would mount the front sight?

Not having B.U.I.S. would be enough to keep me from using some sort of electronic sight. I'd opt for a low-power standard optical sight with the widest possible field of view.

I can see spending up to $1,400 for this gun.

 

[JShirley]

Maybe this is a silly idea, but I wonder if KT might consider a 7.62x39/AK mag version? I'd sure as hell buy an 18" version, if they did...to compliment the 24" .308 BR version!

John

 

[Bigfoot]

Not silly at all. They should make a 5.56 action length bullpup and offer 6.8mm, 6.5mm and 7.62x39 versions. They should all work with AR style magazines since C Products makes 7.62x39 AR mags now. The main advantages would be less cost, weight, recoil and ammo cost.

 

[Black Snowman]

How about 416 Whisper

 

[Don't Tread On Me]

This thing isn't even out yet, and most of you have already begun suggesting that it should be chambered in a variety of calibers, some of which are rare or not widely used.



Folks, if you can't get it done with .308 then:

1] there's something wrong with your aim.
2] you're engaging the wrong target
3] you should be running instead of fighting
4] .300wm, 7mmUM etc...isn't going to save you from what .308 failed to do.
5] you're doomed.

 

[Still 2 Many Choices!?]

A while ago at TFL I said...

If they chambered the S2000 in .308 I would be all over it since I don't see it doing anything that the AR family of rifles can't do(compactness with MV intact aside), I would be all over it, and what do you know? Somebody finally did !! Since Kel-Tec isn known for standing behind it's products, I'll take an 18-21" barreled version as soon as they ship !!

Still 2 Many Choices!?

 

[JShirley]

Folks, if you can't get it done with .308 then:

Respectfully, there are different calibers for a reason. I didn't complain about .308: I like .308. I have a .308 "battle rifle", in fact, and I plan on getting a KT in .308. Woohoo.

Now, a x39mm version would have less weight, less blast for barrel length, and ammo would be cheaper. Can I "get it done" with MORE gun? Well, that's kind of a silly question, isn't it? If you paid attention, you would see that I forsee different missions for a BR and carbine version- which only makes sense. I'm sure I'm not the only one.

J

 

[jonsidneyb]

They did it in the right caliber. I have a caliber preference as well. I want .260 remingtion. Here is why they didn't do it in 5.56, there are already 5.56 bullpups out there and none of them are in the price range you want this to be. There is also sort of a 7.62x39 bullpup as well.

There are no bullpups available in the .308 winchester/7.62 action length. It made sence, the unfilled hole. I was at shot. This is not built like the other keltecs, this things is built solid.

 

[jonsidneyb]

Those of you wanting this in Grendel. You do realize the only reason the Grendel was created was to get High BC bullets into a magazine what 5.56 once lived and it will still reguire magazine mods. The 260 Remington will out do the Grendel with the same bullets in a really big way. I am on a benchrest shooting forum and a bunch of the guys are starting to use .260 for 1000 yard matches with the really hight BC bullets. I don't see the need for a reduced size one of these so you can have the Grendel, a barrel changed can make this thing into a Grendel magnum.

 

[Lobotomy Boy]

For long-range shooting that requires a high degree of accuracy, I have my Tikka T3. For shooting .223-caliber ammo, I have my AR. I have no rifle that will punch a bunch of big holes through a target in a tight, close-quarters situation, and do so quickly.

If this gun is as reliable and trouble free as the PLR-16, it will be a worthwhile addition to the gun safe.

 

[slicknickns]

Is it California legal?

 

[JesseL]

Is it California legal?

I'm pretty sure that rifle + semi-auto + detachable magazine + pistol grip = not allowed in California

 

[shappy0869]

New video of the RFB in action

Right click and save as...http://www.kel-tec.com/videos/rfbteaser.wmv

 

[Bigfoot]

Now THAT'S a hog gun.

Baaadaaazzz, thanks for posting.

 

[Wes Janson]

Was it just me, or did anyone else think that almost seemed like 2-round bursts there towards the end?

Going to be really weird getting used to hearing "bang" and not always having the brass immediately leave the weapon.

 

[jerkface11]

No it'll be a good hog gun when someone switches it over to .358win or .338fed.

 

[KaceCoyote]

I'd buy one if I wasnt a college student, seems like my ideal rifle. Small, handy, corrosion resistant, should be accurate and powerful.

 

[Bigfoot]

Was it just me, or did anyone else think that almost seemed like 2-round bursts there towards the end?

Yeah the second guy was double tapping once he got the rythem down.

Going to be really weird getting used to hearing "bang" and not always having the brass immediately leave the weapon.

Somehow I think I could force myself to get used to that.

 

[EdLaver]

Holy damn I MUST own this baby. Man I hope it goes on sale b4 a ban in inacted.

 

[clange]

That looks awesome but $1000-$1400 for a kel-tec? It will need to earn quite the reputation before I pay that and put my face on top of the .308.

Don't get me wrong, I own 3 kel-tecs. I LOVE my sub-2000, I despise my P-11, and my P-32 does exactly what its supposed to do (be small and go bang). None of them were over $300 though. If they want to toss a grand on top of that its going to have to be freaking amazing quality.

 

[Thefabulousfink]

HOT DAMN! HOT DAMN! HOT DAMN!

Time to take down that poster of Carmen Electra and start dreaming about Kel-Tec when I go to sleep every night.

From the video, it looks like the charging handle also clears the ejection tube. And there seems to be a slot in the tube that you could stick something in to clear jams. It is looking like clearing jams won't be the nightmare that I was worried about.

 

[romma]

Woow! What a barker...