New Kel-Tec PMR-30 auto pistol

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God bless George Kellgren! I've been lusting for a Grendel for years! When the FN 5.7 came out, I wished it was available in .22 Magnum, at a much lower price. Now it is, thanks to Kel-Tec.

The idea of strapping on a pistol that -- together with its spare mag -- would give me 61 rounds is amazing! If it proves reliable, it could be a very good choice for the recoil shy, or for those who have physical limitations that prevent them from shooting handguns with significant recoil.

I'm saving my pennies!

Regards,
Dirty Bob
 
Ignoring the mass speculation for a moment... ;)

Look at the tac-light! hahaha!

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it was the 80s what do you expect. Back then lasers were as big as the gun itself.
 
Gelgoog said:
it was the 80s what do you expect. Back then lasers were as big as the gun itself.
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AMT Hardballer comes to mind..
Birdmang said:
Do they have any pistols in .17hmr?
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I havent seen an automatic that chambers the 17hmr round, I have seen revolvers that have conversion cylinders for it.

I doubt I will ever own a PMR-30 but I would for sure like to try one out at the range.
 
Lasers were bulky and had curly cords and such far into the 90's.
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The first firearms laser I ever saw was mounted on/around/under a K.C.Mo. police sniper rifle in the late 70's? Early 80's maybe?

It was about the size of a sack of cement and weighed about the same, and I believe they said it cost about $100 grand in those dollars.

The Maglite on the Grendel was a state-of-the-art cop light back then.

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Do I Want One?

Let me think.

Polymer frame:
I had one polymer and it was a Hi-Point. Firearm performed well, no FTFs or FTEs. Actually quite accurate. Should've kept it as a truck gun. Did I like a polymer - No. And I have shot more expensive polymers at the club. Just didn't cotton to them. Don't even like aluminum. Got rid of all of the aforementioned materials with the exception of my Firestorm FS-22.

Semi-autos:
Guess I've been going through a stage or something lately. I had a few semi-autos, but have sold off all but my Sig 232SL. One reason I kept the FS22 is because it was a cheaper practice piece for this. The Sig is all stainless. I have a thing for all steel guns. Have had the Sig for a little while and don't want to sound like I'm braggin', but I'm not bad with it. Also reload for it and have changed the springs to suit the round. Other than that, I learned on revolvers and have been regressing to those. Only recently been getting involved with all steel snubbies lately. Suits the wife. She learned on revolvers as well, her father had her shooting a N-Frame .357 when she was twelve.

So do I want a polymer semi-auto pistol in .22 Mag?
Oh My God yeah!!!:D I Love that round! Biggest mistake I ever made was selling a Rossi in .22 Mag. I forget the model number (maybe 518?), but it had a four inch barrel and was accurate as all get out. Shot a little low one time on a bunnie. Missed the head shot. Hit it in the neck and there was no head to worry about. That had a four inch barrel. I'd like to see a longer barrel in the PMR (not much, five to six inch), but can definitely deal with what it has.
Also have a Marlin bolt in .22Mag. So it would be a perfect match-up. This pistol would be perfect for backpackers. I've done that in the past and hope to get back into it. Maybe. I am forty-eight now. So. Maybe.;) But going on my past experiences, this is what I would take. At least on the AT in the Northeast. Out west is another story, different critters. It would serve against most critters and with thirty rounds, be a reasonable self-defense firearm. I'm only saying this due to the number of rounds and their reasonable ballistics. Also the light weight of the firearm. Backpackers need the lightest weight possible.
What I'd like to know is, are the sights adjustable? Looks like only the front sight is. And how many magazines come with it? I like to think that you're getting at least two like most manufacturers supply. In these troubled times, nobody can afford to buy another mag at the price of feeding some of their children. Times are hard and I really don't think they're going to get much better in the next year. So I hope that an American company is going to take of us when this product is going to come out. With six pages on THR, I guess there's an interest in this firearm. How interested is Kel-Tec in its customer base and their financial situations?

I'm sorry for this somewhat longwinded post. But I do love the .22 mag and there are some great possibilities here. Especially after I found some good news about the Grendal(sp), and learned it was the same designer.
 
Also have a Marlin bolt in .22Mag.
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That line made me go over to the Marlin site to investigate.

Indeed, they still produce .22 mag bolts; several of them.
This one seems the top of their current line.

Being a lever guy, I wish they'd chamber a lever in .22 mag like Henry does.
 
I doubt I will ever own a PMR-30 but I would for sure like to try one out at the range.
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Same here. I don't have much use for .22 Magnum, but I certainly understand why people like it. For plinking, I much prefer cheaper .22 LR. For that reason, I'm often keeping my eyes open for a used Browning Buckmark (I've got the .22 LR DA and SA revolvers covered, now I'd just like a semi auto).

It is an interesting gun though.

Who knows, years down the road I may pick up a used example, assuming any bugs have been worked out.
 
Mine isn't there anymore. 882 blued with a laminated stock and a mag. I have a lotta respect for the .22 Mag. One reason why I hope an American company does us right in these bad times. Every dollar counts lately.
I also don't want people to believe that I invoke the use of a rimfire for self defense. I have other calibers for this. But this pistol will serve a backpacker/camper as a great gamegetter/signal sounder(3 shots, international help me signal for some younger people who don't know it)/ and self defense firearm if it boils down to brasstacks. And I say that only due to the thirty round mags. In .22 Mag, that is actually a lot of firepower.
 
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And how many magazines come with it? I like to think that you're getting at least two like most manufacturers supply.
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Doubt it. Kel-Tec is a budget firearm company and my P32, two P3ATs and P11 all only came with one magazine. Don't expect this one to be any different.

In these troubled times, nobody can afford to buy another mag at the price of feeding some of their children.
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Nobody? Most people can lay off the booze, smokes, junk/fast food, scratch off lotto tickets, whatever "insert frivolous purchases" for a week and can probably buy at least two extras with the saved money...

How interested is Kel-Tec in its customer base and their financial situations?
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Beyond whether or not their products sell? Their personal financial situations? Zero. Just like any other company.
 
Kel-Tec is a budget firearm company
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Hi-point is a budget firearms company. Lorcin is a budget firearms company. This is determined by the fact that they use inferior materials that require an excessive amount to be safe, hence heavy for the cartridge they fire, and frequently known for poor finish quality, poor durability and often sub-par reliability. (I know, everyone loves their Hi-points, but you can't argue the weight factor dictated by low grade metals).

Kel-Tec uses state-of-the-art manufacturing processes and materials to produce some of the most innovative firearms on the market. They are durable, reliable and, one of the most defining characteristics across their whole line, extremely light weight. They are able to keep the cost down by taking advantage of the latest manufacturing technology, and by having a relatively low overhead, being a small company that gets most of its advertising by word of mouth.

Yes, a couple of their products have had teething issues (none a safety concern, however), but the company has taken care of problems quickly and free of charge, usually throwing in an accessory to defray inconvenience and shipping cost. That said, of the five KT guns I own, the only one that ever needed service was my very early P3 for the mag catch. It took two weeks to get it back. That's damn fast. My P32, PF9 and both PLR-16's have been flawless.

KT has developed a very satisfied and loyal customer base, largely because they are able to sell a quality, AMERICAN-MADE product at a fair price. George Kellgren is a top notch gun designer and entrepreneur.
 
Don't paint the grip any shade of green or it would look like a hand grenade:neener:
It's easy to trash on KT, but they are coming out with some neat stuff:D
 
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